Netflix - Not bad! Qwikster - uh, never mind...

other than in a "please don't make me say 'qwikster' on a daily basis you morons"

it doesn't make me mad it just makes me question some people in charge in a way I hadn't before

ppl need to get in visionary mode on this, by 2015 *95% of what you watch will be streamed* [if u are not a film nerd], you can be on the apple inc "5.99 a movie for 24 hours" or the cable channels "$35 a month for a huge amount of bullshit, impossible hardward and horrible customer service" or the netflix "$10 for a huge library of streaming video"

right now there are no other options! and i dont see any coming along anytime soon

yr right i mean ppl are STARVING IN AFRICA RIGHT NOW

it's a service that i am a customer of, it is now less appealing and costs more, that's perfectly rational reason to complain

otoh their evil goal is everything streaming one day, right? so it's good that they're giving the dvd service a retarded name on purpose. xp

yeah i mean its "rational" to complain you just sound like an ass. no offense matt i like you.

plus the streaming contract w/starz is expiring in february which means the streaming content is going to get worse in a big way

I miss my cool local video stores. :(

you can only complain if it costs more than you would willingly pay for what you're getting. as long as it costs less - and, I think for most people, it still does? - people are getting a lot of consumer surplus from this service

xps

not a film nerd but personally i don't see myself watching most movies on the internet within the next 3 years. unless someone knocks on my door with a cool linkup between my laptop and my tv and installs it for me for free.

they should have just renamed quikster 'netflix for old people'

yeah i mean its "rational" to complain you just sound like an ass. no offense matt i like you.

― max, Monday, September 19, 2011 3:51 PM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

is there a way i can express my displeasure with this decision on the part of netflix without "sounding like an ass"?

i wonder if a porn site has trademarked 'dikster' yet

it just annoys me that people fail to see "the big picture" which is that this is an *ideological battle* about how you will receive and pay for content via the internet, if netflix dies there will be no "new netflix," there wil just be the 20th century fox streaming site at $10 a month and the NBCUNiversal streaming site at $10 month if you get comcast too and so on

is there a way i can express my displeasure with this decision on the part of netflix without "sounding like an ass"?

― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, September 19, 2011 4:53 PM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

probably, i would use the syllable "eh" and shrug your shoulders a bit, as in, "eh, i see what theyre trying to do, but it sucks to pay more for a worse service *shrugs shoulders*"

btw it pains me to be defending a big multinational corporation but i am 2xmo and illiterate so the only way i can entertain myself is on the computer

Yesterday I was telling some friends about how much I liked "The Woman in the Dunes", and they were like "Is it on Netflix", and I said "on disc, not streaming" and they were like "uuuuuuggggghhhhh too much effort" and it sort of made me want to die.

*eh* is it "childish" for me to complain that a service i'm currently happy with (and i didn't bitch about the price increase at all fwiw) is now way worse and more complicated? *eh* whatever...i guess

i just added a bunch of movies i wanted to see to my dvd queue, and none of them were available streaming? tevs sucks 2 b me i guess but whaddya gonna do?

― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, September 19, 2011 3:45 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yesterday I was telling some friends about how much I liked "The Woman in the Dunes", and they were like "Is it on Netflix", and I said "on disc, not streaming" and they were like "uuuuuuggggghhhhh too much effort" and it sort of made me want to die.

― polyphonic, Monday, September 19, 2011 4:56 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

haha yeah that is bizarre -- like ok longer wait but effort!?

you can only complain if it costs more than you would willingly pay for what you're getting. as long as it costs less - and, I think for most people, it still does? - people are getting a lot of consumer surplus from this service

I think you have to do a mental experiment, like, take yourself back to 1998 and imagine that a genie appeared and said 'I can have basically any movie, except some shit only morbius cares about, appear in your mailbox the day after you ask for it, are you willing to pay 10 bucks a month for this? ps you will also have the option to watch trashy b-movies on your computer if you pay extra money'

cable tv back in 1998 was way more awesome and way cheaper but on downside, no wire, no curb your enthusiasm.

cable tv probably cost a lot more than 10 bucks back then too

that was when people were paying like $4 for a blockbuster movie w/ a $3248712 late fee

lol matt

streaming skinemax

it was about $10/mo i think. for basic anyway. it was also a lot easier to pirate before digital.

wait max –– i kinda disagree w/ you on the principle that netflix is a lone bastion in an ideological battle over content distribution, and that if it fails it's gonna be all a la carte direct-from-production-company choose-your-own-adventure pricing schemes . There are always going to be centralized distribution models, and amazon, hulu+, crackle, whatever apple's got planned, etc., are leagues behind netflix in terms of library depth, but are also viable options and potentially successful models for the not-so-distant future. obv. the current netflix streaming vision (divorced from the dvd distro business) is failing to attract the right kind of attention from the right kind of studios, and flogging a huge but actually pretty-shitty library - unless they've got some commitment from the studios for new top-shelf content - as its own thing is hardly the best way to reward the long-time subscribers who've helped make netflix the juggernaut it is today.

(i don't have a complaint about the dvd svc, by the way)

I'm certainly not mad about it. And the small hassle of having two services won't even bother me that much.

I'm just interested in the business angle on this. It seems risky. And I'm trying and failing understand why basically splitting up the services that way makes any difference. If they are done with DVDs why not just quit that business?

max kinda relentlessly otm but still I mean who besides max doesn't love to just kvetch about shit, I mean what the hell, besides they called the new model "quikster," this is practically begging for abuse imo

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/09/netflix_failed_to_secure_the_q.html

yeah and "qwikster" jfc, might as well just call it "Hotmail Videotapes" or something actually that's a much better name

"hipster"

"DVD's By Mail"

"Cash 4 Movies"

i think max is basically right that this is netflix's ball to drop and they haven't really dropped it, at least not YET -- imo most big paradigm shifts and business model changes happen when the next big thing shows up and announces itself, not just when the last big thing makes a couple mistakes (although obv those 2 things often coincide)

"google plus"

"Celluloid Stories by Post"

"The Pony What Carries Movie Shows to Your Veranda"

"Movie Envelope"

movie envelope is worth domain squatting on!

Just buy the name from these guys:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-oeiq0YWERNM/TayMfvFMnkI/AAAAAAAACac/C4XegFEbfO4/s1600/Mr%2BMovie.jpg

how about 'The Envelope Pushers'

c'mon, makes 'em sound edgy

"Movie Envelope" is genius

unless someone knocks on my door with a cool linkup between my laptop and my tv and installs it for me for free.

you can get an hdmi cable for like five bucks, if your laptop and tv are not super old

"the envelope pushers" sounds like a coen bros movie starring zack galifianakis as a lowly clerk whose only friend is john tuturro who has an artificial limb that is only good for pushing envelopes.

i was gonna say it sounds like something for anal fetishists

http://www.deadline.com/2011/09/netflix-ceo-reed-hastings-apology-fails-to-stop-stock-slide/

ha there is a slide in that netflix corporate powerpoint titled "MOSTLY, THOUGH, RAPID RECOVERY IS THE RIGHT MODEL"
"-Just fix problems quickly"