SPOILER no baby in this week's eps
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Monday, 19 September 2011 14:06 (fourteen years ago)
and while we are quibbling about details I would like a doctor to opine on what type of magic poison can kill a 300 lb man stone dead while a 150 lb man is successfully throwing it back up
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Monday, 19 September 2011 14:11 (fourteen years ago)
Uh, well maybe not entirely successfully?
― Simon H., Monday, 19 September 2011 14:32 (fourteen years ago)
Gus swallowed some kinda pre-emptive antidote right at the start of the pool scene. (Fairly implausible in itself but at least it's an explanation)
― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 19 September 2011 14:32 (fourteen years ago)
oh yeah, forgot about that
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Monday, 19 September 2011 14:34 (fourteen years ago)
If I was Gus, I don't think I'd be methodically laying towels around the bathroom while having seconds to expel a poison from my system.
That said, probably my favorite episode this season.
― Darin, Monday, 19 September 2011 15:05 (fourteen years ago)
lol - i was thinking that too. i would be diving head-first into that toilet, if i'd even made it there before barfing my face off.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 19 September 2011 15:08 (fourteen years ago)
Poison thing was a bit unrealistic (but since the show isn't built on realism so really cares) but that seems like quibbling about what was otherwise an awesome awesome ep from start to fin.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 19 September 2011 15:53 (fourteen years ago)
Walt has been trying to get Jesse to poison Gus, and meanwhile Gus is poisoning himself.
― polyphonic, Monday, 19 September 2011 16:41 (fourteen years ago)
the other thing about Walt choosing not to act re gothy hottie is that his initial hesitation isn't a calculated "hey if she dies that's good for me getting Jesse back" but "oh shit if I turn her then I might get caught being here! what to do?" and then "oh shit - well if I just KEEP STANDING HERE DOING NOTHING then it's totally not my fault and I was going to pretend I wasn't here anyway, so I just have to do that to myself as well as to Jesse."
it's another delicious layer of him being able to convince himself that it's all circumstances that have inexorably led to his corruption, that he has no agency and thus responsibility
― puke of hurl (sic), Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:25 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is from way back but i just wanted to say i disagree with it, i think this was the moment at which walt DOES take a conscious step towards agency, and he knows it
― sorry for party blogging (D-40), Monday, 19 September 2011 16:47 (fourteen years ago)
holy shit
― ice cr?m, Monday, 19 September 2011 17:03 (fourteen years ago)
Trivial detail I never noticed until now: New cars not only for Junior and Ted, but also Jesse/Mike/Gus and several of the chicas at the end!
― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 19 September 2011 18:18 (fourteen years ago)
ha yeah good call, loved bikinid hookers jumping into cars w/piles of cash
― ice cr?m, Monday, 19 September 2011 18:22 (fourteen years ago)
btw i found the pt cruiser presentation scene to be the most difficult viewing of the episode
― ice cr?m, Monday, 19 September 2011 18:23 (fourteen years ago)
was walt really upset when walt junior came around and he cried etc, or was that all staged to make him believe walt was opening up? i read that whole thing as making walt even more dislikeable, his son says "no dad you were being real" when he was actually completely falsifying emotions to make him think they were sharing a real moment, and to keep him away from the truth.
also, is this jesse's big chance to kill gus? seems possible.
― When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Monday, 19 September 2011 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
yeah walt jr saying that that was walt being real the night before kind of undid him being real with the story about his dad if that *was* walt being real
think jess'll be too buoyed by mike's reassurance that they'd all be going home or none and the big kill even though that was about gus wiping out his rivals and revenge to want to get him now
― conrad, Monday, 19 September 2011 19:51 (fourteen years ago)
there's no way Walt was faking tears. everything about him this season has revolved around being the super-alpha-male bad ass etc etc. i don't buy that it was an act at all.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 19 September 2011 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
Wasn't it just 5 or 6 episodes ago that he was showing how good he is at faking tears?
― Antonio Carlos Broheem (WmC), Monday, 19 September 2011 20:05 (fourteen years ago)
i dunno, i think there was a shot where he was sort of gurning and it looked a bit like he was faking it to me.
― When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Monday, 19 September 2011 20:12 (fourteen years ago)
Uh, he called his son "Jesse". He definitely wasn't faking it
― Number None, Monday, 19 September 2011 20:55 (fourteen years ago)
yeah he started crying when walt jr said 'fighting with who?' and he realised he had fucked his relationship with jesse
― peligro, Monday, 19 September 2011 21:00 (fourteen years ago)
so he was being real while pretending it was about something else
― conrad, Monday, 19 September 2011 21:04 (fourteen years ago)
broke down in realtalk whilst lying.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 19 September 2011 21:25 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, that's what made that scene so great, it's working at multiple levels... kudos to the writers and cranston totally sold it
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Monday, 19 September 2011 22:23 (fourteen years ago)
otm
― ice cr?m, Monday, 19 September 2011 22:25 (fourteen years ago)
however this is the last time the writers get to use that "walt blurts out incriminating shit while incapacitated" trick
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Monday, 19 September 2011 22:42 (fourteen years ago)
Astoundingly Cranston is still getting better.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Monday, 19 September 2011 22:43 (fourteen years ago)
If this show falls apart it won't be because of the acting which is pretty much universally great.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 19 September 2011 22:52 (fourteen years ago)
skylar telling dumb guy where the money came from was kinda a bombshell
― ice cr?m, Monday, 19 September 2011 22:54 (fourteen years ago)
So many good parts this episode! I like how Walt's face is looking more and more like faces of meth. Nice parallel. Ted is totally gonna die -- I can see him blowing a bit of IRS cash on blue crystal and hookers too.
Great cliffhanger at the end. As usual, can't wait til next week.
― some lady (La Lechera), Monday, 19 September 2011 23:21 (fourteen years ago)
most uncomfortable touch of realism in this ep: walt tugs scab-affixed bedsheet away from his forhead. ach!
― the island badger is an ageless pirate (Pillbox), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 00:01 (fourteen years ago)
SPOILER no baby in this week's epsbut they did reference it! pump and bouncy chair in skyler's office! take that, josh! it's about as much as that baby warrants.
so this ep. wowwwwww.
― tehresa, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 00:56 (fourteen years ago)
also i wanted to punch skyler for telling ted the money came from her.
yeah she really shouldve explored some other avenues to get ted on track first
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 01:04 (fourteen years ago)
but i mean once again, walt and skylar are v inept criminals
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 01:05 (fourteen years ago)
yeah that was completely dumb, except I think the point was this sort of Greek tragedy "everybody is corrupted by this" thing. like at some point I guess somebody will get their hands on The Meth Money and it'll, like, drip blood or burn their hands or something.
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 01:12 (fourteen years ago)
Walt's emotions were real. He was all fucked up on painkillers. Makes one emote, it does. But yeah, it was great that Walt was expressing real emotions but lying about why.
If Mike dies I'm going to be so sad. That murdering motherfucker is precious to me.
― pullapartsquirrel (Jenny), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 01:57 (fourteen years ago)
walt's emotions did seem real, but it was more about being scared and the realization that he'd fucked things up w/ jesse than about anything else. i still don't think he realizes he's his own worst enemy right now.
― tehresa, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 02:15 (fourteen years ago)
Totally.
Oh, poisoned Gus yelling threats at any remaining cartel thugs was awesome.
― pullapartsquirrel (Jenny), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 02:24 (fourteen years ago)
Dag, great episode. Sort of don't like them painting Skyler as some sort of idiot - giving money to that other idiot, really? - but then, she's desperate. She knows if Ted goes down, she goes down, and then Walt will go down, too. So basically, Ted is going to die. The question is, who will do it, Skyler or Walt? Probably Walt, since he'd want nothing more than to kill Ted.
Walt's emotions were totally real, but OTM re: no more drug-induced honesty from that guy.
Gus will be OK once he gets out from under the glare of the Mexico filter. How did the Don's right hand man survive a Mike garroting?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 02:25 (fourteen years ago)
Oh, also, Jesse's "Rage" playing pays off!
How did the Don's right hand man survive a Mike garroting?
I thought that was a different guy.
― Antonio Carlos Broheem (WmC), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 02:28 (fourteen years ago)
man thinking abt it what fn risky plan by gus there eh
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 02:29 (fourteen years ago)
Per a comment from a person named Mark on What's Alan Watching:
"Definitely cyanide poisoning. What he took before in the form of the pill was more than likely sodium thiosulfate, a well known antidote for cyanide poisoning.
The side effects are rough but the survival rate is good so more than likely Gus will make it through."
― pullapartsquirrel (Jenny), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 02:32 (fourteen years ago)
Other things I loved: Gus and Mike's subtle proud beaming at Jesse when he stood up to the cartel chemist. Saul's fucking suit, tie, and shirt and pocket square.
― pullapartsquirrel (Jenny), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 02:38 (fourteen years ago)
So, wait - Gus just took out an entire cartel?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 02:47 (fourteen years ago)
Oh, also, Jesse's "Rage" playing pays off!exactly my response to the bf when he verbalized his amazement at jesse's badass skillz!
― tehresa, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 02:55 (fourteen years ago)
and yes! the proudness! it was amazing - so subtle, like the finger twitching in elevator - but so big at the same time. i was really scared for a min gus was gonna sell out jesse... until mike said 'either we all leave, or none of us leaves.'
― tehresa, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 02:57 (fourteen years ago)
Which kind of suggests maybe Gus isn't full of shit re: his feelings about Jesse. He might actually see something in him after all, making his fucked up brand of parental affection more sincere than Walt's.
― pullapartsquirrel (Jenny), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 03:09 (fourteen years ago)
btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22mFl_pDaVE
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 03:10 (fourteen years ago)