That picture is awesome! They should sell that as a tandem Halloween costume, like the horse where someone is the head and someone else is the ass.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 15:44 (fourteen years ago)
Maybe the baby is with Rose and Bernard, being looked after.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 15:45 (fourteen years ago)
bro no1 cares about the baby bcuz the baby is boring and like jenny points out taking time away from interesting storylines so that we can get a 'realistic' portrayal of the sacrifices and challenges of modern parenthood is moronic
― Lamp, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 15:45 (fourteen years ago)
Regardless, they didn't need to toss a baby into the mix
I would bet a lot of parents who have an "accident" feel the same way. And while it may not have been The Deciding Factor for Walt's fateful decision I can tell you first hand that a new kid on the way - or the prospect of a new kid on the way - can make men (and women) get into a pretty freaky and anxious headspace.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 15:46 (fourteen years ago)
Dudes, I really don't care about the baby. No one cares about the baby. I'm just teasing the show by proxy "bcuz the baby is boring and like jenny points out taking time away from interesting story lines," which any idiot writing a show about people cooking crystal meth should have recognized before giving their main protagonist a new baby. That's why adding a new baby is such a standard jumping the shark trope. It's what you do when you've run out of ideas, not when you're just starting out the story. Just a bizarre narrative hiccup in the series.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 15:50 (fourteen years ago)
Though Trace, if the prospect, let alone addition, of a new baby is enough to make regular people go nuts, let alone these people, that's a reason why there should be more baby, not less! "Oh my God, we need to pick up Holly at the dare care yet I'm stuck here with a gun to my head! Oh my God, child protective services will take away my baby if they find out I'm involved in this!" Etc.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 15:52 (fourteen years ago)
I can't believe they gave Walter Jr cerebral palsy as well, there's no relationship to the meth plot whatsoever. How boring and lame.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 15:54 (fourteen years ago)
I mean the prospect of one can really ratchet up feelings of "Oh god what have I done with my life" and "I will never be free again". Exactly the sorts of feelings that might help a desperate man with cancer break bad. So, I dunno, not pointless or shark-jumpy to me at all, more like a reinforcement of the deep psychological weeds Walt felt he needed to thrash his way out of.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 15:57 (fourteen years ago)
The two kids are basically the only thing even remotely connecting Walt to the normal world now. Without them, or if Walter Jr finds out what he's been doing, means there's nothing to stop Walt and Skylar just taking the Saul Goodman nuclear option and disappearing for good. There's a reason they need to be there, but also a reason why they're very much in the background most of the time.
Fully expect Junior to find out at some point, but that's maybe a bomb they'll drop in the final season.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 15:58 (fourteen years ago)
right ok but adding the baby at the start is obv not really 'running out of ideas' or a 'hiccup' it seems clearly part of the original plan which was to make this guys life seems as overwhelmingly stressful and desperate as possible in part so that we can understand/identify with his decision to become a drug dealer. like the baby like walt jr.'s cerebral palsy helps the audience understand just how backed into a corner walt is, and why hes willing to do s.thing like start cooking meth
i mean the baby has p much served its narrative purpose but i think its dumb to get mad at a show like breaking bad for not mentioning a plot thread every single episode once its been introduced or w/e its a p economical in its storytelling. if we need the info well get it, i guess.
― Lamp, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:00 (fourteen years ago)
A baby is not a "plot thread." Walt Jr. is totally independent, but babies are hard as fuck work for anyone, let alone these folks.
The two kids are basically the only thing even remotely connecting Walt to the normal world now.
Basing this on what?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:01 (fourteen years ago)
babies are hard as fuck work for anyone
The sleep most of the time TBH.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:02 (fourteen years ago)
No they don't, tbh. Maybe the first three months, but uou know they grow, don't you?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:03 (fourteen years ago)
Basing this on Walt having no friends and no one else in his life other than a mother he never bothers to see, a wife who is his accomplice and a brother-in-law who will arrest him if he ever finds out what his life is really like. And a load of drug people.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:05 (fourteen years ago)
His misbegotten alliance with Jesse was all that was tethering him to earth, imo. Walt doesn't seem the sort these days to even keep baby pictures in his wallet.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:06 (fourteen years ago)
Well Josh, I guess this one's an "easy baby"! There might be some late-night meltdowns. Are you annoyed we're not seeing that? We don't see the diaper changes, who gives a shit? It's like, art shows you some things and not others. Occasionally the baby has been used as part of the emotional war between Sky and Walt and we've seen that. Or as part of Sky's arsenal of tricks to get into Walt's apartment and we've seen that. We even saw Sky carting the baby around in the car a few times, just to remind us she existed. Really not sure what you want in this regard that the show is not delivering!
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:07 (fourteen years ago)
But I have to admit it is sort of fun to guess.
I want them to take the poor kid in for her shots. And occasionally take it out of its car seat. Then I'll be happy.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:08 (fourteen years ago)
everybody but Josh otm
― Antonio Carlos Broheem (WmC), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:08 (fourteen years ago)
Jesse isn't tethering Walt to the normal world, he's fully part and parcel of the drug thing that's engulfing more and more of his life. But it hasn't touched his kids yet.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:09 (fourteen years ago)
Josh I swear to God..
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:10 (fourteen years ago)
So you're just saying his kids aren't tainted? That's not the same as saying they're remotely on his mind these days. Unlike Skyler, who did consider absconding with her little bundle of joy to Colorado.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:10 (fourteen years ago)
it occurred to me that walt will prob just die of cancer at the end of the show
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:10 (fourteen years ago)
sry to interrupt the parenting sesh
A baby is not a "plot thread."
u get that this show is made up right???
― Lamp, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:11 (fourteen years ago)
walt gets sent to prison where he uses chemistry to discover the cure for cancer
― Lamp, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:12 (fourteen years ago)
a baby is not a plot thread, u savages
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:12 (fourteen years ago)
The idea of how fatalistic Walt might become once he realises he's actually dying of cancer is kind of mindboggling. He might just go after Gus, Mike and the entire cartel all guns blazing.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:12 (fourteen years ago)
sounds rad tbh, but what abt the baby
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:13 (fourteen years ago)
Human shield.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:13 (fourteen years ago)
No, I thought the show was real. It's not real? That's a relief, I guess.
You know, it's not like I'm asking what happened to Hank's physical therapist or something.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:13 (fourteen years ago)
The two kids are basically the only thing even remotely protecting Walt from bullets now.
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:14 (fourteen years ago)
The idea of how fatalistic Walt might become once he realises he's actually dying of cancer is kind of mindboggling
This may already be happening
― Number None, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:15 (fourteen years ago)
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100413115131/breakingbad/images/thumb/7/78/Holly.JPG/250px-Holly.JPG
Here I am, everyone!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:15 (fourteen years ago)
― Number None, Wednesday, September 14, 2011 12:15 PM (44 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yeah troo, there was def something weird going on when he told his family abt the results of his latest test
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:16 (fourteen years ago)
Oh shit.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:17 (fourteen years ago)
That' a good point. That would explain a lot more of his explicit fatalism these days. How long until Walt is the one fearlessly walking straight toward gunfire?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:18 (fourteen years ago)
Huh:
http://www.savewalterwhite.com/
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:19 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.savewalterwhite.com/img/walter_6.jpg
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:20 (fourteen years ago)
mike was in airplane?
@ 0:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEywGpIt0vw
― am0n, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:21 (fourteen years ago)
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kvcm4rgFoM1qzhiqwo1_500.png
mike!
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:23 (fourteen years ago)
The purpose of the baby was to have the parallel with Jane when they put her to bed on her side instead of her back. I guess they could have done that with walt junior, but that would have been weird.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:23 (fourteen years ago)
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, September 14, 2011 4:19 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark
yah this went up along with the site in the show back in s2 or w/e
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:28 (fourteen years ago)
i may regret weighing in on the whole baby boondoggle... i can understand why you don't need her around constantly, plot-wise - but her constant absence is strange. like there doesn't seem to have ever been even a mention of them finding someone to help take care of her, we just have no idea what's happened to her most of the time. it's not like she needs to be on screen for 49 minutes, but where is she most of the time? the writers are basically leaving her out for convenience sake, imo - some people are fine with it others are not i guess.
what i've found myself wondering about is Walts hours. he often seems to be busy during daylight hours doing all sorts of stuff - but isn't that when he should be at the lab cranking out crank? when is he actually there?!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:42 (fourteen years ago)
He doesn't go in on the weekends.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:46 (fourteen years ago)
We've seen Marie looking after her and we've seen her in Skylar's car loads of times.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:48 (fourteen years ago)
oh - honestly have no recollection or Marie looking after her!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:10 (fourteen years ago)
see, that helps! the car - not so much. bad to keep baby in car for too long.
She's in the car with Skyler, not just left out in the car like a dog.
― pullapartsquirrel (Jenny), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:59 (fourteen years ago)