Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

wacism

Rooney isn't white?

being white is the identifier of a british person clearly

Well if you're actually being serious, pretty sure Ferguson's comments were a reference to Rooney's nickname among Utd supporters which is "The White Pele"

yeah but on that basis he could have just said

"I think he's a typical Korean player," said the United manager, who left Rio Ferdinand behind as a precaution ahead of Sunday's visit of Chelsea and revealed Nemanja Vidic is a fortnight away from returning from a calf problem.

"There have been Korean players over the last few years, maybe for the last decades, who have similar great qualities that make them great players, whether Y P Lee, Jung Hwan Ahn, The similarities are that the boy has great courage, wants to play all the time and has incredible stamina. These are added extras to the talent he has. In terms of a Brazilian, you'd say Pelé. He was a very aggressive attacker also who could look after himself, so can Park. They have similarities that way: strength, speed, determination, but he eats dog in his own country"

(i'm not really that serious btw)

It was weird no doubt

wouldn't the korean comment have ended 'he's yellow, of course. Completely yellow'

Nah, there's a Park song about him eating dog in his home country

there's a rooney song about him being caucasian?

there is a song about him being The White Pele

i wonder which song is less accurate tbh

Yr doing it wrong, United fans. Only shit players can be compared to Pele - cf Ginger Pele Gary Doherty.

Whereas "David May, superstar. Got more medals than Shearer" can't be faulted for accuracy. xpost

Not convinced the old red-nosed drunk wasn't talking about John Terry.

if yr judging tunes on accuracy of content, yr already gone too far tbh

Yr doing it wrong, United fans. Only shit players can be compared to Pele - cf Ginger Pele Gary Doherty.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 12:44 (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

and world famous hair plug ins utility player wayne rooney shouldn't be allowed to be treated like this because??? form is temporary, the tobias funke look can be a permenant health risk

btw hope the rooney song is 'whiter shade of pele'

But he's shite, completely shite.

And yet he has more goals this season than the entire Liverpool and Arsenal teams

is rooney the worst player of his talent when he's off-form, or is he the best player of his limited ability when he's on-form?

Either way, true world-class players just don't flatline for seasons at a time like he has done ever since his emergence.

I'm so glad we're back to this ridiculous debate again.

rooney scores in gluts

There's a grannyfucker joke in there somewhere

flatline for seasons at a time like he has done ever since his emergence

This simply isn't true. Last season is the only truly bad one Rooney has had since he's been at Utd. A lot of the time he had to deal with being played out of position too.

That's true but a) so do most strikers, even world class ones like peak-era Drogba have barren patches, b) he's amazing in those gluts, last year is the only entire season he can really be accused of flatlining.

It's a mental problem with Rooney - he's got the latent talent but he's too much of a tosser to pay sufficient attention to his fitness or his game when his mind's not on it.

I also think we've maybe been a bit spoilt in the recent past with players like Ronaldo and Messi who can just carry on operating at a freakishly high level for an entire season year after year. 99.9% of other players can't do it.

truth is rooney only performs when he's around experienced players

xposts to darragh

but matt surely being that 0.01% is what makes you 'pele'

disagree with all of ye tbh but i'm busy

Rooney's so obviously the most gifted English player since at least Gascoigne, it seems hardly worth saying. If some hypothetical swap deal came along where Utd could trade him for Player X, how many feasible Player Xs are there to make that deal even worth thinking about?

berbatov

Rooney's so obviously the most gifted English player since at least Gascoigne, it seems hardly worth saying

You'd think so wouldn't you?

'gifted' Technically? Physically? Mentally? Consistency?

Gah i'm BUSY

Last season is the only truly bad one Rooney has had since he's been at Utd. A lot of the time he had to deal with being played out of position too.

Agreed, and I think a lot of it was to do with a hangover from his injury when he was rushed back too early (against Bayern?) - it took him months to look anything like fit and sharp after that setback.

The idea that Rooney is some clogger with no technical ability who somehow muddles through on effort alone is so infuriating.

Rooney league goals/games - ratio per season since joining Utd

11/29 - 0.38
16/36 - 0.44
14/35 - 0.4
12/27 - 0.44
12/30 - 0.4
26/32 - 0.81
11/28 - 0.39

Looks like amazing consistency with one freakishly good season rather than last year really being a flatline.

is there scope for a book called 'The Rooney Myth' that covers in-depth:

1. Prolonged periods of obvious, actual shitness
2. Prolonged periods of apparent performance that in actual fact reflect thirty tap-ins and a pretty poor level of actual performance.
3: A staggeringly poor level of general fitness described as 'bad luck with injuries'
4: Was great in one half tournament internationally

srsly can we shelve this i'm busy

ps xp just over one in three is not the strike-rate of a world class consistent talent at the best club in an uncompetitive league. Even allowing for tapins.

loads of assists last season too.

considering essentially every injury Rooney has suffered has either been ankle or metatarsal, i don't see how that has anything to do with lack of fitness.

and tbf that goals list could also be read as follows:

11, 16, 14, 12, 12, 26, 11

Whither robbie keane, whither darren bent, whither hasselbaink, whither hamilton fuckin ricard and shaun by-christ bartlett

loss of form = loss of hair, we've been through this already

ps xp just over one in three is not the strike-rate of a world class consistent talent at the best club in an uncompetitive league. Even allowing for tapins.

not bad for a right-back though

xp HE'S FAT

5th all time in the Premier League for assists, but you can prove anything with stats

berbatov was once top scorer in the premier league

it's a good return for a utd attacking midfielder, you'd maybe want more for a winger and you'd want to double it for a 'world class' striker onimo

ffs

giving it to ronaldo on the halfway line, lol 'assist'