Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

Chris Sutton. CB at Norwich at first.

For all the complaints about Defoe and Crouch, i'm reminded it wasn't that long ago Spurs were forced to play Gary Doherty up front.

if i was 'reminded' of that by someone i'd throw something at them

on a lighter note tho, this sudden "oh shit Ward's playing up front" is a direct knock-on off of our lack of signings during the summer. you'd think somebody might've guessed that Fletcher, Doyle and Seb mightn't be enough on their own for a season, like.

― Chapman Pincher Overdrive (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 17:22 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

one thing i'm surprised about is after the success (kinda), mick had with o'hara and mancienne, and with sturridge and welbeck etc. having good seasons a year ago.... AND with City and Spurs and Chelsea etc. all trying to get down their wage bill or get potentially good youngsters away, that he didn't get more involved with the loan market? I mean sure maybe not someone like Ade would go but a MB Diouf or Bendtner or Coulibaly or Santa Cruz or Sturridge were all maybe options? Options that may have walked into yr first xi, all without a transfer fee?

Sturridge in the Chelsea 25, so he wasn't an option for anyone this time round. I'd imagine the wages of Santa Cruz especially, and Diouf and Bendtner to a lesser extent would be an obstacle for Wolves - who run at a profit, remember - to take on within their budgetary structure. Add to that the fact that Bendtner is also indisputably shit.

I'm sure you could afford Diouf

Man U wages? Even for a young player, they've got to be right at the upper end of the Wolves pay scale, I would have thought. To turn a profit they must have wages hammered right down as far as they can go.

Wage structure is definitely a part of it but there's a stubbornness about McCarthy that makes you think he will stick with some players no matter how obvious it is that they just aren't good enough. The dude rates work ethic ridiculously high I think - which is fair enough for 80 percent of yr team, but you've got to allow for the odd highly-skilled layabout imo.

"I think he's a typical British player," said the United manager, who left Rio Ferdinand behind as a precaution ahead of Sunday's visit of Chelsea and revealed Nemanja Vidic is a fortnight away from returning from a calf problem.

"There have been British players over the last few years, maybe for the last decades, who have similar great qualities that make them great players, whether it's a [Paul] Gascoigne, George Best, Bobby Charlton, Denis Law. The similarities are that the boy has great courage, wants to play all the time and has incredible stamina. These are added extras to the talent he has. In terms of a Brazilian, you'd say Pelé. He was a very aggressive attacker also who could look after himself, so can Rooney. They have similarities that way: strength, speed, determination, but he's white, completely white."

I was sure you added the last bit

what

waht indeed

waht

just thinking up poll options for the word Fergie's gonna claim he said that sounded like "white".

this is why they were pushing for phelan, the old cunt's lost it

I assume it was some sort of laboured reference to Rooney's nickname

what, Shrek?

Wayne Rooney: Completely White

hell of an epitapth

he got cut off before he finished

"They have similarities that way: stwength, speed, detemination, but he's white, completely white-footed, and I'm vewy pwoud of him"

completely white

I'm a bit annoyed that Glen Johnson is out for the Spurs game, would expect Bale to get some joy against him. As it is they'll probably play Skrtel there and Bale will be crunched within the first 10mins.

good old Skrts

fergie out surely.

What for?

wacism

Rooney isn't white?

being white is the identifier of a british person clearly

Well if you're actually being serious, pretty sure Ferguson's comments were a reference to Rooney's nickname among Utd supporters which is "The White Pele"

yeah but on that basis he could have just said

"I think he's a typical Korean player," said the United manager, who left Rio Ferdinand behind as a precaution ahead of Sunday's visit of Chelsea and revealed Nemanja Vidic is a fortnight away from returning from a calf problem.

"There have been Korean players over the last few years, maybe for the last decades, who have similar great qualities that make them great players, whether Y P Lee, Jung Hwan Ahn, The similarities are that the boy has great courage, wants to play all the time and has incredible stamina. These are added extras to the talent he has. In terms of a Brazilian, you'd say Pelé. He was a very aggressive attacker also who could look after himself, so can Park. They have similarities that way: strength, speed, determination, but he eats dog in his own country"

(i'm not really that serious btw)

It was weird no doubt

wouldn't the korean comment have ended 'he's yellow, of course. Completely yellow'

Nah, there's a Park song about him eating dog in his home country

there's a rooney song about him being caucasian?

there is a song about him being The White Pele

i wonder which song is less accurate tbh

Yr doing it wrong, United fans. Only shit players can be compared to Pele - cf Ginger Pele Gary Doherty.

Whereas "David May, superstar. Got more medals than Shearer" can't be faulted for accuracy. xpost

Not convinced the old red-nosed drunk wasn't talking about John Terry.

if yr judging tunes on accuracy of content, yr already gone too far tbh

Yr doing it wrong, United fans. Only shit players can be compared to Pele - cf Ginger Pele Gary Doherty.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 12:44 (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

and world famous hair plug ins utility player wayne rooney shouldn't be allowed to be treated like this because??? form is temporary, the tobias funke look can be a permenant health risk

btw hope the rooney song is 'whiter shade of pele'

But he's shite, completely shite.

And yet he has more goals this season than the entire Liverpool and Arsenal teams

is rooney the worst player of his talent when he's off-form, or is he the best player of his limited ability when he's on-form?

Either way, true world-class players just don't flatline for seasons at a time like he has done ever since his emergence.

I'm so glad we're back to this ridiculous debate again.

rooney scores in gluts

There's a grannyfucker joke in there somewhere

flatline for seasons at a time like he has done ever since his emergence

This simply isn't true. Last season is the only truly bad one Rooney has had since he's been at Utd. A lot of the time he had to deal with being played out of position too.

That's true but a) so do most strikers, even world class ones like peak-era Drogba have barren patches, b) he's amazing in those gluts, last year is the only entire season he can really be accused of flatlining.

It's a mental problem with Rooney - he's got the latent talent but he's too much of a tosser to pay sufficient attention to his fitness or his game when his mind's not on it.

I also think we've maybe been a bit spoilt in the recent past with players like Ronaldo and Messi who can just carry on operating at a freakishly high level for an entire season year after year. 99.9% of other players can't do it.