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We also go to prom instead of the prom, but I don't know if that's midwestern or Minnesotan or what. I had no idea about billfold and phy ed not being universal and natural. Hot dish, of course.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:43 (twenty years ago)

Peppermint bon bon.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:43 (twenty years ago)

"Going to prom" (i.e., no definite article) must be Midwestern, because we said it in Illinois. "Billfold" is what, a wallet?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:45 (twenty years ago)

it was duck duck grey duck in southern Minnesoter (Worthington) for sure.

― don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:47 (twenty years ago)

Yes well 'prom' is short for 'promenade' so it would be correct to say 'prom' instead of 'the prom' which is redolent of the Love Boat's 'promenade deck' shudder.

Peppermint bon bon = Kemps.

Unique among all Minnesotans, I was not once forced to suffer a crunchy onions/cream of mushroom/green bean (meat) casserole EVER. CoM soup in our house = beef stroganoff or shrimp equivalent. My mother has very specific ideas of what should be eaten (full fat milk, butter, good bread) and what should not (meat from a can, convenience foods, sugar cereals).

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:03 (twenty years ago)

Yes well 'prom' is short for 'promenade' so it would be correct to say 'prom' instead of 'the prom'

I don't follow this logic. Regardless of its derivation, it's being used as a noun, not a verb, in the construction "I'm going to prom with Suzy." It's really the same thing as "going to school" or "going to hospital" (although this latter one is UK/AUS-only).

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:12 (twenty years ago)

OMG, I hadn't thought about "phy ed" is YEARS.

― Dan (GREY DUCK!) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:29 (twenty years ago)

OMG, I hadn't thought about ~~"phy ed"~~ MR Y0UNG in YEARS.

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:31 (twenty years ago)

aahhhghhh. Good lord, no wonder I turned out such a mess...

― John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:35 (twenty years ago)

I was forever having East Coast distinctions pointed out to me by this grandmother. No way in Hell was her granddaughter going to NYC with a Minnewegian accent. Mind out my dad's parents were the only people in my family like this and their son is now Homer Simpson plus a trucker hat.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:37 (twenty years ago)

we totally had phy ed ONLY in Minnesoter.

oh yah we did.

― don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:38 (twenty years ago)

JUMP FOR THE TOWEL, JUSTEN.

(RIP, for real)

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:42 (twenty years ago)

what's wierd is that all this stuff tends to come up w/in 48 hours of being in minnesota! i swear my first weekend in the dorm (i grew up in iowa) ppl were all like "phys ed? goose? wallet? what's yr problem??"

that and "borrow" for both "borrow" and "lend." that just makes nooo sense, i'd love to know the reason. to scandinavian languages have just one word for both or something?

― geoff (gcannon), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:47 (twenty years ago)

http://www.captovation.com/Miscellaneous%20Images/Minneapolis%20Activities/lord_fletchers.gif

― don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:48 (twenty years ago)

Wait a second -- is it phys ed or phy ed? In Ohio we had billfolds, phys ed and prom too.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:53 (twenty years ago)

PHY

― don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:55 (twenty years ago)

It's PHY ED in Minnewegia.

OMG, Don, that place is Leisure Suit Larry with BOATS. Wayzata has such hilarious Hamptons pretensions sometimes.

I had a great time around there with my dad at New Year. He grew up in Deephaven/Excelsior, where he delivered his Minneapolis Stars in the late '50s ON HORSEBACK and gave tourists rides on Excelsior beach on the weekends. He said that in the '50s/'60s there was an amazing club next to the amusement park (gawn 1975, I remember it, carousel is in Valleyfair) where Stones/Beach Boys played.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:55 (twenty years ago)

that and "borrow" for both "borrow" and "lend." that just makes nooo sense, i'd love to know the reason.

...i'd also love to knock-out every person that has ever made this mistake in conversation with me.

Yeah, I'll borrow you my bike
We're having EYE-talian food for dinner!
Have you tried expresso before? It's a delicious drink from Italy!

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:56 (twenty years ago)

haha how about SUNSETS?? now there's a bar.

― geoff (gcannon), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:57 (twenty years ago)

PHY = because it's, in syllable form, phy*si*cal.

Bring and take do, I admit, cause problems when Britishers decide to get pedantic.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:58 (twenty years ago)

(Minnesota character trait: we're right. It's just like that. Just deal *smiles aggressively*)

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:59 (twenty years ago)

We're also really nice! Want to stay for dinner? Barb made EYE-talian food!

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:00 (twenty years ago)

dammit i kinda want to go to sunsets now, good lord.

actually has anyone ever been to DAVID FONG'S in richfield?

― geoff (gcannon), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:04 (twenty years ago)

If you say EYE-talian, do you also say AY-rab? I guess I just associate that with rural, uneducated dialects -- not Minnesota or even Midwest specifically.

I'm trying to deal with the "prom" thing here: definite articles

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:04 (twenty years ago)

OMG, Don, that place is Leisure Suit Larry with BOATS

and it's been that way since at least the mid-70s when I lived out on Halstead's Bay. We've got family photos from Fletcher's to prove it...luckily I probably had no idea how drunk my parents were.

Wayzata's snobby, but I always thought that Excelsior gave it a good run for the money.

― don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:08 (twenty years ago)

i think i hear some people say eye-raq and eye-ran, so it might just be that phoneme.

AY-rab is a little dated, and i don't know if anyone used it non-perjoritavely.

― geoff (gcannon), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:08 (twenty years ago)

JUMP FOR THE TOWEL, JUSTEN.

Oh look, scars from my childhood ripped open for all the world to see.

― Dan (Did He Ever Really Do That To Anyone? Like, That You Actually Saw?) Perry (, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:09 (twenty years ago)

(I have only ever heard "AY-rab" used in the context of "West Side Story".)

― Dan (Crazy! Cool!) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:10 (twenty years ago)

Definite articles, nothing. You Stars of the North need to learn to pluralize.

I got so drunk last night, only on like eight beer!

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:16 (twenty years ago)

haha dan otm!

speaking of which, how about that kid getting shot in uptown? jeez.

― geoff (gcannon), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:19 (twenty years ago)

Did He Ever Really Do That To Anyone? Like, That You Actually Saw?

...like, once. I didn't shower that day.

xp ??? I'll have to ask my sister about that.

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:20 (twenty years ago)

(I have only ever heard "AY-rab" used in the context of "West Side Story".)

You don't have relatives in central Illinois, then. :)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:20 (twenty years ago)

Phy ed? You people are freaks. It's 'P. E.'

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:21 (twenty years ago)

BTW, Dan, Andy V4n Vl33t says hello...

― John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:22 (twenty years ago)

yeah like in front of his mother!! really really awful

http://www.startribune.com/467/story/322376.html

― geoff (gcannon), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:23 (twenty years ago)

phy ed...i didn't know that wasn't universal. hmm.

i hadn't thought of billfold in years.

The other day I tripped on the stairs and let out a genuine "Uff da!"

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:27 (twenty years ago)

yeah that uptown story is bad, but it's a little creepy how the press is covering it...sort of like "BUT THIS STUFF IS ONLY SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN TO BLACK PEOPLE IN NORTH" vibe about it, there's like a shooting a day that never gets that much coverage.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:28 (twenty years ago)

Wow, John! What's he up to? Tell him hi if you see him again!

Matt: Oh no you didn't.

― Dan ("Uff Da"!!!!!) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:30 (twenty years ago)

Now "Uff da!" I know about thanks to Astronomy magazine -- and its cool 70s kids version, Odyssey -- having a hero robot in a comic that once said it in an early issue in the late seventies. The next issue all these letters were published from my fellow post-rugrats going "What in the world is 'uff da'?" The editors informed us all, and a little bit of Minnesota entered all our lives.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:32 (twenty years ago)

This early encounter eventually lead to Prince, MST3K and confounding Matt with references to "Toolmaster of Brainerd."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:33 (twenty years ago)

Minnesotans believe that not only are their ways universal, everything ever was invented there.

Please understand that my mother *may* have the ability to kill with a dirty look. This may explain why my otherwise non-academic sister pronounces NUCLEAR correctly. But says 'ompen' intstead of 'open'. However that is just The Betsy.

Good grief. Uptown shootings = one gazillion speeches from above parental unit about don't go out on one's own there, like ever.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:33 (twenty years ago)

"Ompen"??????

― Dan (???????) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:37 (twenty years ago)

ompen lompen

― geoff (gcannon), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:37 (twenty years ago)

confounding Matt with references to "Toolmaster of Brainerd."

haha then you were referencing all these bands from that Du Huskers comp and really fucking w/ my head...

I've never heard "ompen" in my whole life.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:39 (twenty years ago)

I still can't believe you said "uff da"!

― Dan (Mind Blown) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:40 (twenty years ago)

dude it surprised me! non-ironic "uff das" are a rare breed in the wild these days.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:53 (twenty years ago)

oh man i said "phone" as FOOOONE the other day. I almost just clapped my hand over my mouth.

― geoff (gcannon), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 21:22 (twenty years ago)

haha yeah i have those moments too! esp. when i visit my hometown and i'm talking with someone and all of a sudden i'm all "Yah dat shoour is a bad deal dere"

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 23:53 (twenty years ago)

I don't recognize 90% of the cake-eater nonsense in this thread anymore. ironic uses of uff da!? begone from my state

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 23 March 2006 01:01 (twenty years ago)

Seriously though I've probably used that phrase in earnest several times a week throughout my entire life!

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 23 March 2006 01:02 (twenty years ago)

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