New York City is for sellouts

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How come you know so much about my city? Did you used to live here? I'm such a dumbass. I didn't realize.

DUDE, I've been trying to hint to you and NA that I know a lot of Richmond folks via my very best friend here in Seattle who used to live in Richmond. I've met and now know the notorious Mich**l Otl*y who seems to be the Richmond kingpin. :) I met a lot of these folks when I visited Richmond last year, and took a walk through Carytown. (Also met Marty and Adam via having done sound for Young Pioneers a few times on KUCI and various other shows). Plan 9 is also, like, the best record store on the east coast.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:35 (twenty-two years ago)

theory: NY is such a festering hell-hole of high prices, raw sewage smell, dishonest real-estate agents, and an all-around disloyalty ingrained in the culture, that moving to New York is the "default" kick-my-ass-cause-i-need-it option for kids too chickenshit for the army

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

(x-post to Sarah...but don't ask Michael if he knows donut bitch.. haha.. ask him if he knows all the Brians in Seattle :) )

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:37 (twenty-two years ago)

No we should not motherfucking "all" move to Alabama.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:37 (twenty-two years ago)

also, kings dominion is the happiest place on earth. except that fucking anaconda ride almost broke my neck on

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Better or worse than Cyclone?

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Good thing you made that disclaimer, donut bitch, or else I would've asked him if he knew a Mr. Bitch and he'd be like, "NO! What kind of person do you think I am?" And then I would have called you a liar and it would have gotten really ugly.

But yeah, that's cool.

― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:39 (twenty-two years ago)

An ILX commune would be a frightening prospect, whether it was located in Alabama or NYC.

― Larcole (Nicole), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Uh yeah, I'd like the ability to be choosy when I go blast into outer space for cowboy bounty hunter adventures, right? This is not a goddamned open invite and if it is I am so not coming.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:41 (twenty-two years ago)

No we should not motherfucking "all" move to Alabama.

you know what I mean

― Millar (Millar), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:41 (twenty-two years ago)

The words "all" and "ILX move" were used in the same line=I am frightened and staying in my goddamn apartment until this passes.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:49 (twenty-two years ago)

The Neverending FAP starts now!

― NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:52 (twenty-two years ago)

NYC: one of the better places to meet new people, and/or try that new food you have heard so much about. However, it's grown too damn expensive to survive in. It says summat if many (previous) Manhattanites have returned home to Mum and Dad cause they can't afford the rent.

Was born and raised in the madness, so I'll always love it. But what will happen to Jersey or Staten Island when NYC can't hold the 20 million determined to move there?

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:52 (twenty-two years ago)

The Neverending FAP starts now!

Been there, tasted that.

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)

But what will happen to Jersey or Staten Island when NYC can't hold the 20 million determined to move there?

Ever seen The Fifth Element?

― Millar (Millar), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:56 (twenty-two years ago)

The Neverending FAP starts now!

TURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRN around...

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― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I was wondering where the rest of my hair gel went.

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:02 (twenty-two years ago)

These days I wonder where HIS went. Though he still needs a bit:

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/gallery/2002/01/18/LIMAHL.JPG

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I just wanna get out of the way of the asteroid that's DEFINITELY going to hit Manhattan (I read that somewhere), so that's my real reason for not wanting to live there.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, my mom read that too. I'm still waiting for it.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I just wanna get out of the way of the asteroid that's DEFINITELY going to hit Manhattan

DB, tis called an urban legend. Too many diasters should have happened to NYC by now. Much like the "big one" that's supposed to sink California.

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, that's what I was gonna say Nichole. Every time I tell my mom I'd like to visit San Fran some day, she freaks out about how it might sink when I'm there.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Arts universe explanation: Well, I look at it this way -- the vast majority of book and magazine publishing is based here, the news media is based here, there's a ridiculous number of art galleries (both boutique and major ones) here, Broadway is considered the pinnacle of theater (which is both good and bad, obv.), NYC has a thriving music scene and hell! In the parkling lot around the corner from my apartment street people and actors perform King Lear everynight! (tho last week they were doing interpretive dance to Panjabi MC's "Beware the Boys" -- I stayed and watched it every single night. TRULY TRANSCENDENT!!!") The reason I moved to NYC was cuz I wanted to be a writer, and I knew that this was the place to make that happen.

this is all bollocks?

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Fuck earthquakes. the reason I'm not ever going to California is the black widow spiders.

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Austin:Texas::NYC:USA (maybe Olympia:Washington, Athens:Georgia, other states are kind of a blank)?

It's where you dream of moving when you're outside the cultural norm of your area (especially as a teenager). Nightlife, record stores, shopping, interesting people, adventure, etc. Basically a "get the fuck up and out" ideal.

And the reality of both is far less exciting than the fantasy.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Phil, in the separate times I've been there, never saw even one. Need another reason, then.

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

as of today, i am officially looking for work in philadelphia. fuck new york city and its legal community. i don't even give a shit about having to take another bar exam at this point.

― Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha ha. In a normal analogy, I think that would be DC:USA, but I know what you're saying.

― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Whaaaa---, Tad? Let me know if you end up there. It would be a plus on the philly side of the list!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

well okay, if you like death by venom, by all means, move to california!

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Austin:Texas::NYC:USA (maybe Olympia:Washington, Athens:Georgia, other states are kind of a blank)?

Ur, well Olympia is more like the "Albany" of Washington state, for obvious reasons.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Phil is right. They even eat that shit. If you see "Black Widow Burrito" anywhere, run away.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

christ is new york is anything like athens I'll never go there

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Ur, well Olympia is more like the "Albany" of Washington state, for obvious reasons.
Why? I thought Olympia was 'cooler' than Seattle since grunge died.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh man, you have no idea how wrong that thought is. But Jess could say more...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha Olympia is the dumping ground for all the "fake hipsters" who couldn't make it or get dates in NYC, or anywhere else larger than the hickish hometowns they're supposedly fleeing from.

― chester (synkro), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, yes, precisely. It occupies the same niche for Washington hipsters/hipster-wannabes that NYC does nationally.

"My life would be cooler if I lived there!"

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:16 (twenty-two years ago)

hanle y and kate the saint both lived in or around Albany, NY at some point = Albany, NY is WAY cooler and more wonderful than stinky Olympia, WA could ever hope to be.

― Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)

RE: grit

Dallas now has the highest per-capita crime rate in the nation for cities of 1mln+, and Dallas County is the twelfth most-polluted county in the nation.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey Tad, what about me! Can't I be cool? (Saratoga Springs, 1982 to 1985)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I've lived upstate (for three years); and when I was growing up the folks and I went to the Hudson Valley practically every weekend. Also I worked in Westchester County for a while so I was always taking the Metro-North up there. I consider upstate NY my second home. So I feel qualified to say: nice foliage and rivers and mountains, but the small towns are fuckin' HELLHOLES.

― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Milo what I meant is that Oly is a super small pond and therefore much easier to "make it", in a high social standing sense, than NYC. The two really aren't comparable AT ALL in this regard.

― chester (synkro), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

ie, it's generally easier to be hip anywhere else in the country than in NYC (I'm supposing).

― chester (synkro), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)

puh-leeze

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:43 (twenty-two years ago)

real hip motherfuckers get PhDs in aerospace and move to Alabama

― Millar (Millar), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)

The idea of folks moving to Olympia today only to become scenesters is just truly boggling... which might actually be a good sign for the town these days, as I think the last thing its shaky economy needs now are more black wavy haired crows in high fashion competing for the birdseed.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Dallas now has the highest per-capita crime rate in the nation for cities of 1mln+, and Dallas County is the twelfth most-polluted county in the nation.

Like I said, grit. .

― Texas Sam (thatgirl), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:49 (twenty-two years ago)

(Blount I meant hip in relation to yr immediate surroundings, obv [or maybe not so obv]).

― chester (synkro), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:56 (twenty-two years ago)

The rest of my reasons for loving NYC.

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