People Who Live In Suburbs: Classy, Icky, or Dudes?

How about instead of reading "incorrect" desires we read this as "community features we feel are detrimental or undesirable." I've had conversations with people where they see nothing wrong with having no walkable resources, feel a row of big box stores next to the freeway makes a lot of sense, and so on. I'd say a lot of people here bring a lot of opinions and experiences to the table that make these seem detrimental, but it's condescending to assume others are idiots or have an entire swath of political ideas you dislike because they accept these things.

a lot of people have dogs in the city fyi

also can i just be clear, i dont think anyone is "correct" or "incorrect" for their "desires," i just think that the human race will die if we dont all move to new hampshire

xp: and they never pick up after them!

there are dogs that need lots of room and constant exercise fyi

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like yeah you could have a siberian husky in the city, if you wanted to own a miserable dog i suppose

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if you wanna ride

Ugh yeah I had a neighbor at our apartment in Virginia who had TWO great big huskies in his apartment. It was like, "WTF is wrong dude buy a pug or bichon or some other toy breed."

i dunno i see a lot big dogs, they seem p happy, obv i am not a dog shrink or whatever, i probably wouldnt have a dog in the city, "we need to take care of dogs" is a pretty bad reason to allow the rapid extinction of the human race tho

maybe theres a way we could all share like a couple big lawns and some trees and nature shit that the dogs could also use

dunno just spitballin here

But also, people should be allowed to like their suburban homes and lawns and nature and sunshine without being called "republicans".
--kkvgz

again there's this idea that somewhere I said "everyone who lives in or moves to the burbs today is a white republican." that's pretty obviously false tho it's funny that your arguments against it are like 'Arlington va!' I think a fairly large % people move/live in the suburbs because there simply aren't affordable/viable alternatives. that's not due a law of nature, it's due to political decisions over generations and path dependency and, ultimately, a certain brand of American libertarianism.

also 'people in suburbs just love nature so much they can't live without it' is like 'animal lovers just love animals so much that they can't help eating them.' if you love nature, you care more about your effects on it than your proximity to it. lawns are not nature, they're a form of pseudo nature that has an incredibly destructive effect on the natural world.

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Dude, I was talking about proximity to like state parks and shit.

I am not living in a suburb that is next to shit

Sorry we destroyed the natural world.

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iatee luv ya bro but you really have no idea why people live in suburbs. all of your theories about it serve your pre-conceived notions.

I could see a better argument made for people to stop eating meat and saving the natural world than yards being a feature in a place with 1000/sq. mile population density.

afaict from this thread ppl move to suburbs to

• have dogs
• have lawns
• drive to grocery stores

One day, ppl itt will learn to understand the difference between WE SHOULDNT LIVE IN CITIES BECAUSE DOGS, BRO and IF YOU LIVE IN A SMALL CITY APARTMENT, DON'T HAVE A GREAT BIG DOG BUT IF YOU HAVE LIKE 2,000 SQ FT AND A PARK NEARBY IT'S COOL.

One day.

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anyway I mostly post stuff to this thread for people like max and dayo and laurel to read not to retroll the rest of yall

and really anyone who's defending how the richest nation in human history ended up spending its resources on miles after miles of prefab suburbs and strip malls has already been trolled...by...uh...society

the automobile is the highest expression of personal freedom fuiud

I think it's probably fair to say that people didn't have the first clue about the environmental impacts when this shit got started. I mean, they're there! Whatcha gonna do? Bulldoze them?

Many of the most recent developments that I've seen in my area are suburban clusters of townhomes. So that's a smaller footprint. I think things are going to start trending towards highrises soon enough.

My understanding is that big dogs are less hyper and can make do w/fewer walks. There seems to be plenty in my hood and they seem ok.

the automobile is the highest expression of personal freedom fuiud

So terrestrial! You need a hover pod/submarine/spacecraft, bro.

so what's the consensus on people who live in exurbs?

oh, you mean klan members?

klantastic

it's klanastrophic.

urban klanning

urban klanning

Wait, I just looked it up and I think I was talking about exurbs this whole time.

goddamn iPhone

urban klann- oh dammit

not sure which definition of exurb that is, but nice punning

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What about little seaside coastal villages?

Maybe I'll try living in a census-designated place instead.

What about little seaside coastal villages?

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Usually populated by colorful eccentrics and/or werewolves iirc.

there are some pretty walk/bikable ones and some haven't even been completely fucked by the typical late 20th century streetscape refurbishments. if you can live in one without having to make a trip to walmart every other day, why not?

I have a... likeminded friend who goes vacationing w/ his wife in a coastal jersey city that's very well-designed for walking, narrow streets etc. I forgot what it's called. I don't think there's anything better about living in brooklyn w/ a car than living there without one.

werewolves legitimately need a big lawn and a lot of space to run imo

trying to figure out if my parents' house out in the middle of the woods is destroying the earth based on this thread

I think maybe yes?

a little bit

is there a bank of america branch attached to their house?

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Destroying The Earth

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Not Destroying the Earth