2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

Yeah, which is why he needs an older, white, 'experienced' veep.

Wes Clark Wes Clark Wes Clark

The whole idea that "oh no Obama needs to hit back now [i.e., in some snarky way]" runs counter to the idea that the guy has won with double-digit leads in a bunch of states. His campaign knows that anger, outrage, distortion, and fear are not necessary parts of competition, and he (like Huckabee on his best days) is flipping the script, successfully so far.

what do you mean by this?

This weekend my grandmother, a Republican says, "Yes, I've been learning about this Obama. His middle name is HUSSEIN and his mother is African. This man would be horrible if he was elected -- the worst president in history."

we live in the fucking stone ages, with our ipods and our reflective clothing

Wes Clark Wes Clark Wes Clark

-- remy bean, Monday, February 25, 2008 12:08 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

nononono
first of all hes in the tank for hrc but more importantly his whole candidacy was exactly what was wrong w/ the democratic approach in the last election, thinking we needed a campaign that was like a VFW meeting

Grandma listens to late night radio, which broadcasts some spooky Oliver Stone-worthy conspiracy tripe. The personalities exploit racial and ethni fears as a matter of course.

(xxxpost)

Is there any Democrat she would vote for, A,LS?

maybe this guy?

http://www.blackfive.net/photos/uncategorized/johnkerrysalutes.jpg

woops

http://www.blackfive.net/photos/uncategorized/johnkerrysalutes.jpg

I wouldn't really want to pick a Democratic candidate based on who would scare/offend L,AS's grandma the least.

the last "real Democrat" was LBJ, she sez.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080223011336AA1ziz9

Has anyone seen Michelle Hussein Obama's tripe, and what do you think of it, if so?

found while googling for pics of michelle hussein :-[

http://home.wanadoo.nl/kraan90/image/husain,%20mishal8.jpg
be my 1st lady <3 <3

Everyone around the world is watching and wondering if America is that easily fooled into voting for someone who truly wants to follow a socialistic agenda.

Canadians are going to wonder if America goes the way of Canada, then where will they go for decent health care?

Will Americans really adopt plans that are failing in Canada and Europe? Do Americans really want 55% of their earnings to go to taxes?

Do the American people really want bigger and more government intrusion in their lives. I am certain that other countries have thought the people here were much smarter than that.

Ask the Cubans who were forced into socialistic/communism.
They are still trying to make that treacherous trip to come here.

What do intelligent Americans think? I for one believe Michele and Barack want to gain the power to control business and even down to regulate how we care for our health. Yes, our security would be threatened by undermining intelligence and emasculating the military. Those tax increases will affect us all negatively!

-- Moody Red (Top Contributor)

ugh there are some dumb fucking people in this world

She hates America, like all liberals.

true, sadly - if only the independent not so interested in the process voters could see this.

lol @ the idea we live in a "post-ideological world" when you read stuff like this

"post-ideological" just means "my ideology won"

more like 'post-ideological' means that you don't advertise your ideology, you advertise your image

What do intelligent Americans think? I for one

That's a fail right there already, don't need to read the rest of the sentence.

Everyone around the world is watching and wondering if America is that easily fooled into voting for someone who truly wants to follow a socialistic agenda.

Given the last thirty years of presidential history, the rest of the world must be even stupider than us.

think its safe to say that none of McCain's wives ever wrote a thesis about black people. please keep that in mind when you are voting. for great justice.

xpost: at this point, I doubt anyone in the rest of the world really cares as long as someone else takes over in November - it can't possibly be worse than Evil Dick and his cowboy clown sidekick.

The wars in other countries are always near, never far away. The president is only the man who can get immunity, never plan ahead. Barack, gangs are permanent, wars are imminent, and the future is only bleak for us out here, never in there. When we turn on the television, or like my brother read daily in the news paper about political issues, we see change never coming. The president changes every 4-8 years, but lobbyist, judges,system makers, and rich people who contribute to their own change still remain. Every campaign is the same Hilary, when does it change. When are you going to see that every country, every person, every leader, lives by a greed that their own people can and will always understand, and that they see democracy not even working in the United States. There is no hate, only frustration and action on that feeling. So I ask, What will you do, that Bush couldn't do, that the last presidents decades after decades could not do? Comment on that!

"the rest of the world" is unanimous in holding the republicans responsible for george w. bush and assuming that their time is now over - there would be genuine incomprehension if any republican won, almost even more now than in 2004

actually although I posted that comment for its unintelligibility it kind of makes sense to me now!

meanwhile, the left wing conspiracy grows only larger: http://dlisted.com/node/24138

Tell me why:

Kathleen Sebelius
Wes Clark
John Kerry
Bill Richardson

should and shouldn't be veep.

No one ever wants to see Kerry again.

Kerry is a failure, Clark is a non-entity, Richardson is a bozo. Sebelius is best option but kinda stilted and perhaps unsuited for the trad VP attack dog role...?

Also - see separate VP speculation thread

JOE BIDEN!

NO?

OKAY :(

i hate to be the asshole that says it but something tells me that if obama wants to win over independents and even some republicans, hes going to need an older white male VP

like Clooney.

Your 2008 Vice Presidential Candidate Speculation Thread

you mean an older white male "centrist" guy, DONTCHA? that'll boost Nader nicely, kidz...

Kerry is a very good and decent man who is death warmed over as a politician

I like Kerry, I don't get the "kerry is stiff and has no personality" criticism

did you sleep through the last election?

compared to, say, al gore he really wasn't that bad

I had the bizarre experience yesterday of watching an Obama event that took place in a lifeless void. Why? Kerry was the main attraction, acting as surrogate. I like him too, but come on.

Kerry might be more macho than Algore, but he's also way more boring

al gore has done a good job remaking himself, I don't think anyone regards him as boring and stiff these days. but I don't think kerry is ever going to get over that perception

apparently Hilary's campaign has been circulating this pic around:

http://drudgereport.com/oa.jpg

*SMH*

you are slow

yeah it was posted upthread already along with their shrugging off of the accusation

hay I just got home from school I can't keep up with this thread.

Al Gore on Futurama = funnier than anything Kerry's ever done in his whole life

"I have ridden the mighty moon worm"

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/muppet/images/thumb/b/bd/3136t.jpg/300px-3136t.jpg

Obama campaign has been circulating this picture.