Shall we anticpate the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

hah

i've seen other middle aged dudes w/ that look also, makes me wonder if it's an actual 'thing', the way tony soprano took a certain middle aged dude look and codified a degree of badass to it.

well bald head / goatee is def a thing

omg this episode

flashback was so fucking intense

I would be so fine w/ the rest of this season being like godfather 2 and half of every episode being a gus flashback

naw I hope not though because part of what made the flashback so intense was how out-of-nowhere it seemed...like...wait what the fuck? oh, sudden flashback

i didnt really vibe on the flashback too many 80s clothes couldnt get the vibe theyre going 4 filter lens & shit oh this guy died, who cares

makeup job was pretty lol and a little distracting

i don't know how gus/mike knew about the GPS device but gus' quick thinking was brilliant - "do it" - and now he has a perfect tool for buying a little time from hank

Gus didn't know about the GPS until Walter showed him. He knew Walt and Hank were there because Mike had told him. Mike knew they were coming because he followed them.

i guess the dude just knows what magnetic GPS trackers look like

i love seeing Hank in full-on maverick mode!

sorta think Walt needs to realize that very few, if any, security cameras have microphones in them, and even if they did, there's no way anyone is listening to their output

But won't Hank now know that Gus found the tracker and took it off? Which is in and of itself suspicious? Unless Gus will take it on and off his car as needed, I guess.

Regarding the notebook, you ever hear the one about the Apple employee who dropped his prototype iPhone in a bar?

Unless Gus will take it on and off his car as needed, I guess.

i'm pretty sure this is the idea - gus has turned the tracker to his advantage

i have read elsewhere that gus's former partner, the chilean wunderkind, has a pretty dead-on upper-class urban chilean accent in this show

Gus already took it off his car, towards the end of the show, before he drove to visit Hector.

sorta think Walt needs to realize that very few, if any, security cameras have microphones in them, and even if they did, there's no way anyone is listening to their output

Hahaha every time he makes a speech to the camera I say, "Is there even audio on that?"

Gale's "Lab Notes" struck me less as actual lab notes and more as his own diary that he labeled "Lab Notes" for the same reason I labeled my high school diaries "Song Lyrics."

I also sort of love how Gus comes to visit Hector to fuck with him but also because Hector is one of the only people Gus can talk to about his day with any honesty.

Do you think "Is today the day, Hector?" is about Gus one day killing Hector or is it more of a philosophical question about "Is today the day I get caught/lose my drug empire/change my name and skip town"?

I defo felt they were trying to tell us gus and max were lovers. Some fairly heavy tv style hints there.

Any chance gus was boning gale too? The only way s4 can end is him making walt "an indecent proposal"

Apparently Vince Gilligan addressed that in a podcast about the show (that I did not listen to - someone mentioned it in the comments on.... Sepinwall's recap? probably) said that it was "open to interpretation" but that he didn't necessarily mean to convey that they were lovers.

Didn't they kind of hint that Gale was in love with W.W.? Not that that would preclude him and Gus boning

He had a wall of vagina sketch in his lab book so I seriously doubt he was a homosexual.

the parallel between walt being honest with the mute security cam and gus being honest with the mute tio just struck me

Oooo. Good one!

Yeah, this show is nothing if not about stoic, stubborn, passive-aggressive, proud lack of communication.

Gale admired walt for his work. Why does everything have to nbe sexual?!

"To W.W. My star, my perfect silence." Make your own mind up

Gale admired walt for his work. Why does everything have to nbe sexual?!

I feel the same way about the idea that Gus and his original business partner were lovers. I mean, if your longtime friend and business partner who is like your brother is murdered in front of you in part because of your actions, and then the murderer holds you down in a pool of your friend's blood while you stare into his dead eyes and watch his brains seep into a swimming pool, I bet you'd cry and start a scholarship fund, too.

my fave fan 'they were a gay couple' spec is abt gale and viktor

lol

I feel the same way about the idea that Gus and his original business partner were lovers. I mean, if your longtime friend and business partner who is like your brother is murdered in front of you in part because of your actions, and then the murderer holds you down in a pool of your friend's blood while you stare into his dead eyes and watch his brains seep into a swimming pool, I bet you'd cry and start a scholarship fund, too.

watch the scene again.

I probably won't do that so just tell me what point you want to make.

I probably won't do that so just tell me what point you want to make.

I can't tell if you're mocking me or agreeing with me.

he was just underlining the sexual nature of your post

I don't know what it has to do with anything, but I can see it. First you get the Tio guy taunting their masculinity when he takes a leak, then you get the story that Gus put his partner through college. Which means he met him when he (the partner) was young, but why would Gus, the older man not from the wrong side of the tracks, have met him at all? Anyway, room for interpretation. There was definitely love there of some sort, regardless.

agreeing. sorry.

he was just underlining the sexual nature of your post

Haha this exchange clearly demonstrates Mr. Thinwall and I are having an affair.

And I get where the potential interpretation comes from. I just don't think it's such a slam dunk.

I don't think Hector's homophobia is much evidence for Gus being gay, though. Hector is an asshole and I doubt he would quail at calling a straight man's sexuality into question as part of his standard insult repertoire.

in a word, machismo

Exactly.

Also he peed in the pool. But later I was thinking Don Eladio probably wouldn't care since he'd have to clean all the blood anyway. Might as well piss in it!

un presagio machista, no?

yeah sorry if i seemed curt, just feel it's not like it's just going "lol gays" or something. it's television and that long, long, speech max makes about "this man is my partner" etc, i felt they were laying it on thick in the way tv does to make you think something. the way they were talking about each other was quite unusual in the context of the meeting. but then i guess close male friendships would not be fleshed out on tv much either, or if they were it might often be to do a gay storyline.

(which is obv lame, but the point stands)

Honestly part of my problem with the gay angle is why can't two men have a loving relationship without them being gay? Or in an insipid, shallow "bromance." Like, I just really like the idea that Gus and Max were in platonic love. Also the "SURPRISE GUS IS GAY" reveal feels kind of cheap to me.

Also I'm peeved by reactions (less so here bc I think posters here are generally smarter than that but this is the only place on the Internet I discuss this show, so) that seem to discount even the possibility that Gus and Max could just be superbesties without also fucking each other.

If anybody is gay on this show, it should be Walt Jr. And Marie. I'd like to see her run off and live happily ever after with the realtor woman.

I don't think they're going for a "SURPRISE GUS IS GAY" thing, i think they're allowing you to draw your own conclusions

did anyone else wonder about what looked to be a black eye on Gus's partner?

or "partner", if you prefer.

Honestly part of my problem with the gay angle is why can't two men have a loving relationship without them being gay? Or in an insipid, shallow "bromance." Like, I just really like the idea that Gus and Max were in platonic love. Also the "SURPRISE GUS IS GAY" reveal feels kind of cheap to me.

Also I'm peeved by reactions (less so here bc I think posters here are generally smarter than that but this is the only place on the Internet I discuss this show, so) that seem to discount even the possibility that Gus and Max could just be superbesties without also fucking each other.

you can sort of flip this too tho and say there's no real judgement involved, and it's just "maybe gus is gay" rather than "surprise, gus is gay".

yah i read it that way.

I agree it's open to interpretation. I should have said that an obvious surprise gay reveal would feel cheap. I don't think that was intended to be the actual reveal.

This show is pretty economical, though -- who cares if Gus is gay? Does that change anything? It's going to have to work into the plot somehow, just like Marie's shoplifting/crazy might figure in at some point.