Shall we anticpate the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

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I only say native because he is supposed to be Chilean. If the actor Giancarlo Esposito was bilingual as a child, he would still speak a different sort of Spanish than he does on this show.

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Esposito was born in Copenhagen, Denmark to an Italian father and African-American mother. His mother was an opera and nightclub singer from Alabama, who once appeared on the same bill as Josephine Baker. His father was from Naples, and worked as a stagehand and carpenter.[1][2] Esposito lived in Europe, New York, and Cleveland until the family settled in Manhattan when he was six.

i drive a wood paneled station dragon (La Lechera), Monday, 5 September 2011 16:52 (fourteen years ago)

esposito was fucking RAD in this ep; glad we got to see him stretch his legs a bit

thank got forks showed up (forksclovetofu), Monday, 5 September 2011 16:57 (fourteen years ago)

I fear the deal with the characters' accents is they all speak Spanish poorly

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 5 September 2011 16:59 (fourteen years ago)

Marie not wearing purple.
Is it going to come out that Gus was a general in the Chilean military junta?

kate78, Monday, 5 September 2011 17:01 (fourteen years ago)

The student spoke beautiful Spanish and was clearly a native speaker, but I'm not sure he sounded particularly Chilean. I don't know what street children in Santiago sound like though, really. He sounded Caribbean/costeño to me. Possibly Colombian?

Totally confused though because AMC ep guide says that the chem student's name was Max Arciniega, which is the actual name of the actor who played Krazy-8. Ep guide says character "Max Arciniega" is actually named James Martinez. Either way, his Spanish was very easy to listen to and understand, totally natural. Unlike Gustavo's.

i drive a wood paneled station dragon (La Lechera), Monday, 5 September 2011 17:07 (fourteen years ago)

so was that Gus' lover or what

Gukbe, Monday, 5 September 2011 17:16 (fourteen years ago)

didn't enjoy this as much as the week before. interesting ep - but a little too much jumping around.
why are we just seeing scenes with Gus and wheelchair guy now?

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 5 September 2011 17:17 (fourteen years ago)

xpost oooooooohhhhhhh

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 5 September 2011 17:17 (fourteen years ago)

ah, yeah i didn't get that angle but it makes sense

thank got forks showed up (forksclovetofu), Monday, 5 September 2011 17:29 (fourteen years ago)

i did wonder about his preference earlier, but hadn't thought about that last night!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 5 September 2011 17:29 (fourteen years ago)

i think it's already been suggested here, but i'm buying into the idea that hank's old partner is in gus' pocket and that he was the one that made the call that saved his life.

thank got forks showed up (forksclovetofu), Monday, 5 September 2011 17:37 (fourteen years ago)

He was the first one to shoot down Hank's theory, then the other guy on the end. I'm starting to think that Hank really doesn't know yet that Walt is involved. Also, can we talk about Pinkman's cellphone. Loyalty appears to be officially shifted, and I wonder what Jesse plans to do with the lucky cigarette.

i drive a wood paneled station dragon (La Lechera), Monday, 5 September 2011 17:40 (fourteen years ago)

Totally confused though because AMC ep guide says that the chem student's name was Max Arciniega, which is the actual name of the actor who played Krazy-8. Ep guide says character "Max Arciniega" is actually named James Martinez.

The scholarship that Gus started 15 years ago was called the "Maximinio Arciniega fund", named after "a good friend", so I'm guessing that was him.

Dust, Monday, 5 September 2011 17:41 (fourteen years ago)

aha
but it's still the irl name of the actor who played krazy 8!
http://abreakingbadblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/breaking-bad-s01-e03.jpg

apparently he is also known as Chicago hip hop act MaxSoul

Born Max Arciniega in the great city of Chicago, MaxSoul is easily compared to Chicago’s most creative hip-hop acts-such as Kanye West, Lupe Fiasco, and Common-thanks to his thought-provoking lyrics, concept-driven songs, and eye-catching stage shows. A spoken-word artist, MaxSoul opened for Russell Simmons’ Def Poets at the Metro in Chicago after earning first place in a local poetry slam. He carries the depth of language into all of his songs, creating a fresh, new, and accessible hip-hop sound.

A veteran of the stage, MaxSoul is also an accomplished actor, best known for his recurring role on AMC’s Emmy-nominated Breaking Bad. He has also been featured on some of the biggest prime-time shows on network television


http://www.abbeypub.com/?p=1545

i drive a wood paneled station dragon (La Lechera), Monday, 5 September 2011 17:44 (fourteen years ago)

Also, can we talk about Pinkman's cellphone.

yes i didnt know what 2 make of this at all. jesses taken the initiative 2 meet w/ gus prior 2 walt suggesting it? to poison him?

johnny crunch, Monday, 5 September 2011 17:52 (fourteen years ago)

I read it as Jesse holding back from telling Walt that he's way closer to Gus than he wants Walt to know about. And now Walt knows that Jesse's not telling him stuff. Jesse acquiesced to the poisoning pretty easily iirc, and every time Walt brings it up, Jesse's like "dude whatever I have to take a piss" and I now read this dismissive behavior as a way of Jesse communicating "pls stfu, you have no idea where I stand in the larger picture" and Walt is only *just* realizing that Jesse isn't totally in his corner.

???

i drive a wood paneled station dragon (La Lechera), Monday, 5 September 2011 18:01 (fourteen years ago)

That is to say that Gus has sufficiently plumped Jesse's ego (see his clean tweaker-free house, overall confidence, employment of Saul as Ed McMahon) to the point where Jesse feels like he can fuck with Walt a little, and that maybe he is carving out a comfy lifer spot for himself in the Pollos Hermanos empire alongside Mike? I dunno.

i drive a wood paneled station dragon (La Lechera), Monday, 5 September 2011 18:16 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah that's what I thought. He lied about not having seen Gus since the diner when actually he spent most of last episode with him when he had the "negotiation" meeting with the Mexicans. The text told Walt that Jessie is seeing Gus on a regular basis and just fobbing Walt off when he says he hasn't had the opportunity to poison him yet.

xpost

Dust, Monday, 5 September 2011 18:20 (fourteen years ago)

I'm not sure there's a plan there as such, he probably just quite likes working for Gus and doesn't enjoy being Walt's personal hitman everytime somebody gets in the way.

Dust, Monday, 5 September 2011 18:21 (fourteen years ago)

ya - i figured Walt was just annoying him.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 5 September 2011 18:24 (fourteen years ago)

Maybe. I guess I am expecting more from Jesse than just "you're annoying me" -- I really want him to be communicating that there is an undercurrent of "don't bully me/you're no better than I am/I don't need you/you're a strategic imbecile" in his interactions with Walt.

i drive a wood paneled station dragon (La Lechera), Monday, 5 September 2011 18:27 (fourteen years ago)

think jesse's annoyed and doesn't know what he's doing doesn't want to admit he's seen gus since the diner since he has not yet killed gus

conrad, Monday, 5 September 2011 18:53 (fourteen years ago)

Vince Gilligan said in the BB Insider podcast that the character Max was indeed named after the actor who played Crazy 8. He just liked the dude and wanted to pay tribute to him.

woman in the dunes, Monday, 5 September 2011 19:07 (fourteen years ago)

Pedantry alert, but what kind of phone just has the text of a message right there when you open it, without you having to press some buttons and then the message showing up as already read? Great episode though.

Number None, Monday, 5 September 2011 23:01 (fourteen years ago)

I want to reiterate my questions over the timeline because of Walt saying it had only been a year because he was diagnosed but the cars/video games have moved on. Stupid and pedantic and wholly unimportant, I know, but just...ya know.

Gukbe, Monday, 5 September 2011 23:34 (fourteen years ago)

I thought that was important! It's the only way I knew that one year had passed.

i drive a wood paneled station dragon (La Lechera), Monday, 5 September 2011 23:37 (fourteen years ago)

Thought this was the best directed episode of the season too. Stuff like the shot of Gus in the elevator was amazing, and there weren't any of the gimmicky shots that have been all over the other episodes

Number None, Monday, 5 September 2011 23:38 (fourteen years ago)

Pedantry alert, but what kind of phone just has the text of a message right there when you open it, without you having to press some buttons and then the message showing up as already read? Great episode though.

every single mobile phone I have ever owned

challopian rubes (sic), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 00:02 (fourteen years ago)

Pedantry alert, but what kind of phone just has the text of a message right there when you open it, without you having to press some buttons and then the message showing up as already read?

iPhones show the text messages without any further finger-swipes - the message just pops right up! however, Jesse does not have an iPhone

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 00:03 (fourteen years ago)

But every single phone i have ever owned will have a message received icon which you press to read the message.

Number None, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 00:04 (fourteen years ago)

I thought that was important! It's the only way I knew that one year had passed.

― i drive a wood paneled station dragon (La Lechera), Monday, September 5, 2011 7:37 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah i was like ONE YEAR

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 00:39 (fourteen years ago)

hellofa year

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 00:39 (fourteen years ago)

honestly jessie would TOTALLY have a better phone
he'd have like all kinds of APPS BITCH

thank got forks showed up (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 01:18 (fourteen years ago)

I kind of figured G. Esposito learned Spanish as an adult or at least was not a native speaker/early adopter because I can understand him fairly well and I can understand slow, careful, over-enunciating American speakers of Spanish better that native speakers.

Though tbf Gus Fring is a slow, careful, over-enunciator of English, too.

pullapartsquirrel (Jenny), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 01:21 (fourteen years ago)

Hahaha APPS BITCH.

pullapartsquirrel (Jenny), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 01:22 (fourteen years ago)

lol

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 01:24 (fourteen years ago)

Oh the backstory between Gus and his chemist provided a little insight into why he was so willing to put up with Walt/Jesse as a team when it seems nonsensical to do so.

pullapartsquirrel (Jenny), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 01:29 (fourteen years ago)

do u think gus wants to make luv to jesse

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 01:33 (fourteen years ago)

Seen a few people saying that kind of thing, but nah

Number None, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 01:37 (fourteen years ago)

so the guy who walt set up to have offed by the feds/his own men in the raid was the boss by the pool in the flashback

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 01:39 (fourteen years ago)

feel like i was not paying close enough attention this ep

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 01:39 (fourteen years ago)

so the guy who walt set up to have offed

¿qué?

anorange (abanana), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 01:42 (fourteen years ago)

sry the guy gus set up to have offed

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 01:44 (fourteen years ago)

the mexican drug boss, he was on the phone w/him gloating as the feds came to his door iirc

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 01:45 (fourteen years ago)

it clarified for me what has always been a mystery namely why gus gives such a fuck about quality control and hence lends such power to walt, invests an incredible amount of money to make basically a gmp meth lab, etc when the market from what i can tell hardly demands anywhere near this level of quality. if his thought is that meth has the potential to hit upscale demos that it currently can't touch then i can understand the thinking from a business standpoint. but if he's just selling a much purer (ie much more difficult and more expensive to produce) meth to a market that shows little sign of discernment or inclination to pay much more for the good stuff than that seems absurd to me. premium tequilas vs when burger king tried to create table service at their restaurants.

balls, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 01:46 (fourteen years ago)

guy who was offed by federales was at the table, was not scarface dude.

balls, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 01:46 (fourteen years ago)

ah so ty

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 01:48 (fourteen years ago)

idk that people will pay more but the good shit will be more popular for sure like 'you got that blue stuff' - so its more i guess its abt volume rather than margin - but yeah gus' interest in quality seems to go deeper than all that - hes just fastidious

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 01:50 (fourteen years ago)

guy who was offed by federales was at the table, was not scarface dude.

― balls, Monday, September 5, 2011 9:46 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wait yeah uncle hector is in scarface right - i was talking abt the boss who was at the table - he is the guy who gus set up w/the federales present day right

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 01:53 (fourteen years ago)

dis guy

http://i.imgur.com/Voq3Z.png

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 01:55 (fourteen years ago)


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