Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

doyle played, but trap publicly let slip that he didn't think his head was right. Doyle was shite, wasn't tryin, no fight or spirit. Trap says he might start with cox on tues, maybe give doyle a chance to show he's up for it in the final twenty mins or whatever.

Seriously, trap out. When you think kevin doyle's attitude is to be publicly questioned in the buildup to a pair of crucial matches, you're the problem. He's turnin from a cranky negative contrarian to an actual cunt

Here, what's the story with Leon Best?

trades descriptions act will see for that cunt

That VDV injury might be a blessing in disguise.

if it lets him rest up and come back ready, yeah.

Also I'm not sure we've ever recovered from reworking our entire team and formation to fit him in - a spell of 4-4-2 with Adebayor and Defoe upfront might work nicely. Also VDVs best game for us this year has been when he was playing nominally on the right rather than behind the striker.

when was that? Have always thought him poor on the right myself.

Changing to 451 with crouch was the issue- formation was in part vdv but also to let lennon and bale loose while still getting modric, vdv and one sitter into the line-up

VDV has been 'lol injury plagued stopping him having any form and being too important to a team because he made 3 great appearances once' since basically the start of his career. Ever wonder why he was so cheap? Every second that passes it'll look like a mistake not cashing on his great season imo.

This is such obvious fake foresight, weren't you saying Man United should sign him a couple of years ago?

lol u rep for rvp in fairness

when was that? Have always thought him poor on the right myself.

3-3 draw against Arsenal.

good performance, granted, but an aberration in that position. He was prob at his best dropping back into cm in the early european games i think

He wasn't really on the right in that game either to be fair. Agree he's probably best in midfield proper.

agree with DC that dvd, I mean vdv, absence could help

agree that he disrupted the team when he arrived

was at Arsenal game and do recall, now, that he was good that night

don't understand 'cashing in on great season' -- he's not Bale or Modric, no one wanted to sign him.

that's true also- we weren't beating away offers all summer for him (nor bale for that matter)

no nobody wants Bale any more !!! funny

If Levy had capitulated on Modric early then the Bale offers would have come. Think a lot of the interest in Bale was either manufactured by the press or, more likely, clubs have been sitting around to see how he does for another season rather than buy in the peak of a hubristic bubble. I presume Man City just weren't that interested.

Bale may be excellent at what he does but what he does is quite limited imo

I dunno, if you can do one thing very very well and get back and tackle reasonably then you don't need to be particularly versatile.

wing play, either way? Crossing early or late, beating his man either way, comfortable cutting into the box and shooting or playing the pass and running to collect?

Yeah, you're wrong tbh nv. Crouch crouch crouch. Can't say it enough.

may have been influenced by watching him be not very good in the centre for Wales the other night

Discussions like this remind me of those dreadful attempts made to convert David Beckham into a central midfielder when everyone in the world knew exactly what he was good at and what he was in the team for. Possibly Beckham himself encouraged them.

the prestige attached to the central role would confuse anyone compelled to watch the republic this past while.

DM, what about Crouch?

are you just expressing happiness at his departure?

I think his point is that Bale created an awful lot of chances that Crouch wasn't good enough to put away, or was in the wrong place to get near.

sorry, work called.

Yes pf- matt has it. Not only was crouch not capable of finishing the chances created, his absence of presence or ability to collect and hold the ball totally undermined entire nascent passages of play. Bale's powerful forward running off the ball was time and again wasted by virtue of the fact that crouch's touch, passing or plain failure to head or challenge in the air meant he would merely find himself the wrong side of his full back on what was already a burgeoning counter attack for the opposition.

Modric and (to an extent) lennon were also wasted for the most part whenever crouc was given the responsibilty for the attack.

I'm no fan of adebayor, but i fully expect his fuller presence to bring about a serious improvement in the effectiveness of the rest of our attack.

agree that Adebayor cd well make Bale's light shine brighter in particular

strongly agree, DM

I felt all this many times, watching Crouch being incredibly useless.

I have also always been deeply annoyed when Crouch misses an easy chance and laughs about it.

I don't like Adebayor but must reserve judgement on his effect on the team.

presumably you're no fans of adebayor purely in a character sense? as a footballer surely there's no argument he's very capable and effective when he's got his head screwed on (which isnt as seldom as people like to make out tbf).

"In this respect Crouch can almost seem like a parody of an English centre-forward, a living satire of those "traditional strengths", football's version of a braces-twanging pearly king or a champion Morris dancer."

^ quite liked this line in barney ronay's otherwise routine appreciation of crouch fwiw

i left out crouch's off the ball movement, another hugely important facet of a lone striker's game with regard to effectiveness of the wingers. So easy to mark, so predictable (a defender could have gone to the back post andnwaited for him to arrive, usually) and so unhelpful for a winger cutting in or a midfielder arriving late.

Vdv had a knack of being where the ball would arrive once crouch miscontrolled it, one only hopes that he comes back fit and sharp and with more to his game than that.

rtc yeah, character reservations is right, though if i'm honest only as far as it translates on-field. He pulled that young arsenal team down around him the season before he left. I hate being left so dependent on him but when he plays he's ... I hate to say unplayable but y'know

shit, le Fondre ended up at Reading?

― Frogbs (Pray Like Aretha Franklin (in Whiteface)) (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 September 2011 02:59 (9 hours ago) Bookmark

yeah right i missed this too! i think every fan of every club in the country (besides knobs who havent heard of him) felt a slight twinge of envy when they saw that - if he were called adam watson then hey ho, you sometimes get the odd lower league flash in the pan but chuck in some of that le tiss channel islands swag and he just becomes irresistible

Glenville Adam J. le Fondre (born 2 December 1986), more commonly known as Adam Le Fondre, is an English footballer who plays for Reading as a striker.

!!

think we need Ken Chu to explore the amusing complexities of a player finding himself unplayable

feels like something Ken could do

in fact I wonder if Ken should be given a run in Ronay's slot.

I don't particularly care that we've got Adebayor, fuck it we've already got Gallas and that turned out alright.

But yeah he's obviously going to be a better goalscorer than anyone in our squad at the moment. Also, he always scored against us.

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Some mention of ward upthread. He makes you wish kilbane was playing.

Yeah.

gotta say he's improved a bit for us over the last few months but yeah he's not really Premier League class never mind international

depends who you're playing tbf i think he'd prob have the turkhmeni winger in his pocket

he's not really Premier League class never mind international

So can expect to see him playing for Celtic at some point no doubt

you do seem to like taking shite Left Backs off our hands

This is such obvious fake foresight, weren't you saying Man United should sign him a couple of years ago?

― Matt DC, Monday, 5 September 2011 11:03 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

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I dunno, I used to watch a lot of Real back when they were Dutch and thinking the same. Also remember when he signed saying 'lol he's gonna have a great half season' and being p much the only person (although I think nakh may have also joined in) saying it was for a reason bayern didn't buy him when they had the chance. I may have said Utd needed a VDV type of player though.

do we need a seperate garry cook thread before this becomes a giant shitstorm?

can't believe gary cook is a total cunt. a sad day for britain that this erstwhile honourable and dignified man has been found to be a bounder of the highest order.

like i know football execs arent the nicest of people but mocking onouhas mum for suffering from cancer is some next level skeletor shit

it's a bit murky/ confused as to what's happened tbh? Onouha's mum got an email with the word 'riddled' in it that was meant for someone else- the suggestion being that it was a nasty reference to her illness?

It seems a bit thin tbh but i'm assuming there's more to goon than that, right?

its garry cook so i am presuming that thats the city publicity version of 'went to her door, rung the bell, left a flaming faeces display in the shape of 'haha u got cancer, gc' and ran away'

but why would he...
i mean what possible?
and then to?

You know?