Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

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yeah i mean...for something like that i'd want a line from a person, even someone anonymous, specifically saying there are actual medical concerns over his health. it's totally from the same hymn sheet as the completely awful hargreaves "anxiety attack" story from last year, which they seem to have changed since it was published.

LocalGarda, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 17:43 (fourteen years ago)

Wenger has offered £22m to Rennes for the France holding midfielder Yann M'Vila but the French club have told him he must pay £30m, which looks to have scuppered any deal.

this sounds quite inflated indeed. i don't know rennes transfer history that well but have they ever sold any players for this much? is m'vila even that good?

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

i'd guess they are holding out for £25m or something, just skimming a lil extra from a desparate customer

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 18:34 (fourteen years ago)

probably yeah but still a lot of money for a club that sold briand, gourcuff and källström (lol i know) for about €15m combined.

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 18:47 (fourteen years ago)

poulsen has signed for a discarded evian bottle

LocalGarda, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

fair price

Juata Man (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 19:55 (fourteen years ago)

shit i misspelt desperate

i blame the mainstreamer

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 19:57 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/reds-agree-poulsen-transfer

LocalGarda, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 20:04 (fourteen years ago)

is mertesacker any cop?

arsenal for champs - 8/2 against (cozen), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 20:10 (fourteen years ago)

I agree with the condemnation of speculation over AW's health fears.

If he does indeed have such problems, then this would be a good time for people to stand back and get some perspective rather than add to the pressure which could (if the story has any basis) have serious or fatal consequences.

I don't like the hyena-pack treatment of Wenger.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 21:37 (fourteen years ago)

why I think Murray bizarre:

- I don't like his idea that we are all constantly mediated through our 'phones' anyway (also hate it when footballers talk that way)

- it is bizarre to think that if you support a team, your life is full of abuse from others mocking you whenever that team loses. Piece of evidence for my claim: look at ILX itself - a very 'robust' environment, but not full of 'giving people stick' in that sense.

If anything I am more used to commiseration, people saying 'ah well, better luck next week / you had a few players out' etc.

- If people's famous phones are that important to their interaction with the rest of the world, wouldn't they prioritize that need for general social interaction over the minor irritation of text messages (?) from people mocking their team?

(it has just occurred to me that Murray may actually have meant people ringing others up to mock them? even more bizarre)

- if CM is saying that people abuse others through eg email or social networking sites, then wouldn't they be equally exposed to this when using computers, at work and at home? in which case why not say: 'Arsenal fans aren't turning their computers on'

- even if CM's premises have any value, the whole thing shows a massive lack of perspective. All kinds of really important information might come to you at any time; some people might want to turn their phones off cos they fear news of a bereavement, or need to turn them on cos they have a relative in Tripoli. People ribbing you about a soccer match is just not that important.

But I come back to the fact that I don't know anyone that does do that.

I watched my team lose 1-5 on TV on Sunday - it was dire, one of the worst results I've ever seen. But no one has written to me or called me to mock me about it - if they did I would think this was bizarre and crass behaviour. And I know that though in footy terms it's bad, in other terms it's not the most important thing in a world where all kinds of bad and sad things are happening to us all.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 21:46 (fourteen years ago)

If United lose badly I typically get at least four or five people texting / phoning to mock me, usually starting before the match has even finished.

Manchester United 8 (EIGHT) Arsenal 2 (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:19 (fourteen years ago)

knobless obligay imo

Juata Man (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:22 (fourteen years ago)

i liked pf's analysis of cm's routine, but i do think it was a fair enough throwaway hyperbole of most football fans' experience. You'll get a text or two, it won't make you throw your phone away, it's mutually-accepted boorishness that is fairly common i'd have thought

Juata Man (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:25 (fourteen years ago)

Have an ongoing joke with a friend 'x is a hard ground to go to and come away with 3 points' whenever one of the teams drops points. Obv funnier when it's a crappy ground/team.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:50 (fourteen years ago)

it's harder to make a pun with 5-1. whereas 8-2 puns just come in hives

(e.g. 8-2 say i told you so)

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 23:21 (fourteen years ago)

Tottenham looking to sell Crouch, Palacios, Hutton today

policy seems to be to recoup costs and cut wages

good policy, but not sure it's a good deadline-day strategy for improved results.

also odd as Hutton had good spell last season, and Palacios surely could come good again, seemed a good player

don't mind losing Crouch as never wanted him in the first place

why does no one ever come in for Pavluychenko? and if they did, would he be sold?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:11 (fourteen years ago)

if Crouch goes, our strikers will be: Adebayor, Defoe, Pav ...

that's it?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:12 (fourteen years ago)

vdv i suppose, coulibaly in a pinch.

Pav is significantly better than crouch but i think we accepted a 14m bid for him from anzhi makhakla this summer without personal terms being agreed.

I almost agree on palacios, i think a lot of our problems last year were down to redknapp not dropping tired/off-form players and i'd rather wilson coming in than many of the players we'll be left with. That said, his loss of form was startlingly prolonged.

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:27 (fourteen years ago)

I think Harry had a row with Hutton after he got sent off last year and hasn't played him since.

I'd expect Spurs to sign at least one striker.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:28 (fourteen years ago)

tbh, i don't care why harry's getting rid of hutton. Ideally it's because he's recognised his complete lack of ability at this level, but just as long as he's off the team i'm happy

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:30 (fourteen years ago)

who is this Coulibaly?

I suppose we do have HARRY KANE.

VdV is talented but I don't trust him. He's not fit enough to stay the course, and when he's taken off he storms away - and after a couple of months he runs out of fuel and form anyway. It's no good.

our squad looks weaker than a year ago. but I still have some time for Parker and it seems he will arrive.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:35 (fourteen years ago)

i'm beginning to worry about vdv along those lines myself, i had last year down as rustiness but he's already looked out of shape this year.

Coulibaly was the star of the u-17 world cup! Exciting times.

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:40 (fourteen years ago)

Coulibaly's an enormously talented Ivorian but he's sixteen years old and about five-foot-seven. Might be a bit much to expect him to step right in to the team.

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:41 (fourteen years ago)

We don't need Hutton, if we want an attacking fullback who's a possibly bit dodgy in defence we have Walker, if we want someone more solid then Corluka is still the man. If we have a couple of injuries and we're desperate we can play Kaboul there.

I like Palacios but I can see why we're selling him - he's one of our few for-sale players that someone actually wants and is willing to pay for. Reckon he'd find opportunities limited with Parker and Sandro around as well.

So, football fans, who's up for an entire day's worth of refreshing BBC Sport to be informed of one Reading transfer and then a flurry of activity with five minutes to go?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:41 (fourteen years ago)

In the modern era, I'm not sure we need four out-and-out strikers (presuming we sell Crouch). I'd rather have a player who can play either at CF or out wide in a 4-3-3 - none of our wide players nor our strikers can do that. Someone like Bellamy wouldn't be a disaster in that sense, assuming he hasn't lost his edge and doesn't attack anyone with a golf club.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:44 (fourteen years ago)

"A few clubs want [Crouch] but we'll have to wait and see with that one," Redknapp said. "It's up to Crouchy. I've had Peter at a few clubs. Good player, great guy as well. But I suppose with Adebayor coming in it's an area that we're a little bit overloaded in and he's one that people want so, if we could do a deal with someone, then it's a possibility."

the pinefox, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:45 (fourteen years ago)

HR has this amazing way of talking about these things as though he's either a) a totally passive spectator or b) making it all up and he goes along.

the 'I suppose' says it all - if he was going to bring a player in, he *knew* how loaded or otherwise we would be in that area. You don't sign him then look at things and say 'hm, I suppose we're a little bit overloaded'.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:47 (fourteen years ago)

He's hedging his bets because he thinks no one will blame him if things go wrong.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:50 (fourteen years ago)

I actually think Adebayor and Defoe could make a great strike pairing, Adebayor is exactly the player to play to Defoe's strengths, but we're apparently never playing 4-4-2 ever again despite the mountain of evidence it actually works best for us.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 08:51 (fourteen years ago)

ffs

09.39: Peter Crouch might not fancy Sunderland but one man who does is Roman Pavlyuchenko.

"My agent is in London. He met the (Tottenham) chairman Daniel Levy to try to find a way out, but so far there is no solution," he told the Daily Mail.

"We gave the option of going out on loan for six months but Levy opposed it. The team have five forwards, and someone will not even get into the squad, so I should leave.

"We can find options. I know that Sunderland have been actively interested in me. In England, miracles can happen on the last day of the transfer window. So there is hope, but it is very small."

A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:08 (fourteen years ago)

The team have 5 forwards?

why, as I hope Brian Clough would say, do they never score any GOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLS?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:10 (fourteen years ago)

Crouch to QPR
Pav to Sunderland

we go on with a skeleton staff of Adebayor, Defoe, Kane

the pinefox, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:11 (fourteen years ago)

Someone commented about how players never develop to a plan under Redknapp, instead any changes are down to their own personal journeys of motivation, fitness or depression or whatever - I thought that was good. I see him a bit like a builder sticking bits on here and there according to present need, while simply forgetting about what he did yesterday or the structure underneath. Eventually you end up with a house made up entirely of extensions, and he loses interest in the people who have to live there and wanders off to tinker with a new house instead.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:12 (fourteen years ago)

If Sunderland are in such financial trouble that they need to offload Gyan to appease their bankers then why would they be in for either Pavlyuchenko or Crouch? This doesn't make sense unless they're paying Gyan some insane heady post-World Cup wages.

Shame really as I thought Gyan and Sessegnon could turn into a dangerous strike partnership but probably not with Brucie in charge.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:13 (fourteen years ago)

I see him a bit like a builder sticking bits on here and there according to present need, while simply forgetting about what he did yesterday or the structure underneath

I really like this analogy by the way.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:14 (fourteen years ago)

unless they're paying Gyan some insane heady post-World Cup wages

I'd put money on it... but not as much as Gyan could

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:15 (fourteen years ago)

agree with Mr Klata's strong analysis.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:16 (fourteen years ago)

BBC rumour mill is stoking Bellamy to QPR rumours, as if Warnock's great survival plan is to turn into Newcastle 2005. Next up at Loftus Road, Lee Bowyer.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:19 (fourteen years ago)

Ismael, that was top stuff on Redknapp.

pandemic, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:00 (fourteen years ago)

i'm getting more of a west ham 2006 stupid icelandic spending vibe

not feeling traore at all, fuck an anton ferdinand, and if we shell out ELEVEN MILL or whatever on crouch then i just... have no words

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:01 (fourteen years ago)

bellers is alright i suppose, we need pace everywhere (the thinking behind traore)

i want onuoha and scott dann, gettable imo.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:04 (fourteen years ago)

where is it saying £11m Crouch? That does seem unwise

"#CFC will offer £30m plus Florent Malouda to #THFC in exchange for Luka Modric. #THFC have asked for Didier Drogba," reckons journalist Ian McGarry on Twitter.

lol no-one can tell me that this day doesn't bring the VFM entertainment-wise

Amazing pic of the universe! - VERY NSFW (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:07 (fourteen years ago)

Everyone wait up, I am about to abuse and debase the Drudge Siren.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:11 (fourteen years ago)

QPR: Crouch at the reported £11m would be ridiculous. I like him as a player, but that would be silly money on someone who hasn't scored regularly at PL level for years. Bellamy I think is pie in the sky. SWP would be great. Central defence is what really needs strengthening.

Also, with Young and Barton on long contracts, at 32 and 29, I don't think QPR should be giving out more twilight home deals. A couple to get in players with the experience we need, and whom we can't attract without giving them long-term deals, fine. But we don't need four or five players all around 30, all on big wages, all with us into their dotage.

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:11 (fourteen years ago)

xp Proposing http://i47.tinypic.com/zjypt0.gif as temporary deadline day Drudge siren.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:12 (fourteen years ago)

http://cache.dealbreaker.com/uploads/2011/03/drudge-siren.gif"Mario Ballotelli's player profile has been removed from the Man City website" - some knob on Twitterhttp://cache.dealbreaker.com/uploads/2011/03/drudge-siren.gif

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:13 (fourteen years ago)

Please tell me he's singing 'Here Comes The Mertesacker' while doing that dance...

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:13 (fourteen years ago)

Ballotelli and Adebayor playing in the same side would just be too hilarious to truly hate.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:19 (fourteen years ago)

Cahill to Spurs seems like a thing too.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:24 (fourteen years ago)


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