Great observation by Sepinwall this week that this episode is all about whether you're in, or out. The cartel to Gus: yes, or no? Walt to Skyler: in, or out? Jesse: Walt? or Gus and Mike?
I have to admit to squirming in my seat pretty hard when Jesse thought about dosing the coffee. I'll also admit that I never saw his rapprochement with Walt coming. All along I'd imagined the show was angling to bring Jesse into open conflict with Walt, and now all of a sudden they're conspiring to poison Gus together!
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 10:47 (fourteen years ago)
Also, LOL at how stupid they've been with the car wash. Jesus.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 10:54 (fourteen years ago)
I'll also admit that I never saw his rapprochement with Walt coming. All along I'd imagined the show was angling to bring Jesse into open conflict with Walt, and now all of a sudden they're conspiring to poison Gus together!
but then they had Mike's line about Jesse being loyal to the wrong person at the end of the episode. I don't think they're best buds again just yet
― Number None, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 11:18 (fourteen years ago)
Also Jesse looks very much in two minds about the whole ricin thing.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 11:26 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah - he's confused and fucked up and still kind of hates Walt's guts. But that moment when he turned around and said, hey, spare me the sales pitch, I'll do it - that surprised me.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 11:28 (fourteen years ago)
The car wash seems stupid, but recall criminal lawyer Saul's idea was a nail salon, which surely doesn't bring in as much as a car wash. Dumb question, but how did they even pay for the car wash? $800,000 in cash? And then how could Skyler have no idea how much money they were dealing with?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 11:43 (fourteen years ago)
Basically none of the financial stuff in the show makes sense at this point
― Number None, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 11:45 (fourteen years ago)
Skyler had no idea because Walt doesn't tell her shit.
But this:
alternatively, I was so angry at Walt early on that I thought about walking out and not watching the show ever again if he's just going to keep getting worse
omg yes. I was never so angry at a TV character as I was when he was clumsily trying to manipulate Jesse into getting angry and upset enough to kill Gus.
― pullapartsquirrel (Jenny), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 12:05 (fourteen years ago)
how could Skyler have no idea how much money they were dealing with?
Because Walt's failure to communicate with her has now become practically pathological. "Church and state!!"
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 12:05 (fourteen years ago)
i.e. what Jenny said
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 12:06 (fourteen years ago)
Kinda like how Saul is now the only person Walt can fully confide in.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 12:19 (fourteen years ago)
can we talk about the NA dog scene? that was tough to watch too.
― i drive a wood paneled station dragon (La Lechera), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 13:26 (fourteen years ago)
Walt has told her he makes a ton of money on numerous occasions. If Skyler is so good with accounting, the fact that Walt can a) pay for Hank's huge medical bills, b) buy a car wash and c) impulsively buy his son a sports car should have been additional ample warning. At the least, Saul knows how much he makes, so when he and Skyler and Walt were together they should have devised a laundering operation to account for all that cash. In other words, none of the money stuff in this shows makes a lick of sense. Is Jesse making millions, too?
Anyway, one of my many predictions now is that when it all goes down, Saul will skip town with most of Walt's cash.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 16:09 (fourteen years ago)
Jesse paid cash for a house. So yeah I assumed he was making not as much as Walt but a hell of a lot.
― dmr, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 16:11 (fourteen years ago)
That cash was from that (at the time) one time pay-out from Gus, right? Before they went to work for him?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 16:28 (fourteen years ago)
Spending it on aluminum subwoofers iirc
Am starting to think how deliciously perverse it would be if the DEA played executioner to Gus, rather than Jesse
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 16:31 (fourteen years ago)
Jesse is so not going to kill Gus.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 19:01 (fourteen years ago)
Wouldn't it be in Gus's interest to make sure his associates know how to cover their financial tracks? I don't understand the silent manner in which they're treating Walt, whether he deserves it or not. They're still in business together.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 19:05 (fourteen years ago)
Has Walt killed anyone in cold blood yet, point plant? Because I imagine Gus will be his first. And then Mike the pragmatist will walk up to Walt, all cool-like, and be all, good job, now you better run. And then the last season will be Walt on the run, and his family in legal jeopardy.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 19:07 (fourteen years ago)
― Number None, Tuesday, August 30, 2011 7:45 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
xp
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 19:08 (fourteen years ago)
I also predict the season will end with Walt personally killing Gus. But one shouldn't second guess Breaking Bad really.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 19:11 (fourteen years ago)
I predict the season will end with mike and jesse riding off into the sunset together, in a winnebago
― hello I love you but I've chosen darkness my old friend (Edward III), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 19:19 (fourteen years ago)
Has Walt killed anyone in cold blood yet, point plant? Because I imagine Gus will be his first.
shot the guy near the end of s3, after running him over. did he also kill krazy 8? may have killed some dudes when he blew up that building with the chemical the guys thought was meth. could be more i'm forgetting.
― LocalGarda, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 19:20 (fourteen years ago)
Wait, who did Walt shoot in S3?
(Ha, point plant is funnier than point blank!)
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 19:37 (fourteen years ago)
Krazy 8 was a mix of cold blood and self-defense, he was gonna kill him but didn't, but then Krazy 8 got free and attacked Walt. And Walt killed him in the ensuing fight. iirc.
― dmr, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 19:37 (fourteen years ago)
xpost - he shot the drug dealer guys who killed the kid
― dmr, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 19:38 (fourteen years ago)
RUN
― Reddit Me Bro (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 19:38 (fourteen years ago)
lol
― LocalGarda, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 19:39 (fourteen years ago)
would have been better if he said LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPjzO7C3Qv0
― Reddit Me Bro (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
Huh. I could have sworn he just ran them over. Where did he get the gun from? Didn't he buy his first gun in the first minutes of this current season?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 21:41 (fourteen years ago)
He ran them over, then used the still living guy's gun to finish him off
― Number None, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 21:44 (fourteen years ago)
Like this?
http://imgs.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/tgoodman/2010/06/07/Episode-12-Walt-2-760.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 21:45 (fourteen years ago)
Here's the full scene for referencehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YVis0HwZdM
― Number None, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 21:53 (fourteen years ago)
― i drive a wood paneled station dragon (La Lechera), Tuesday, August 30, 2011 9:26 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
virtuoso shit
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:34 (fourteen years ago)
it was but at the same time i'd like to see jesse deliver a few meaningful lines without the CRAZED INTENSITY so HARD IN YOUR FACE
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:40 (fourteen years ago)
(which is not entirely fair; he has - and it makes sense for a young guy like him, in his position, to flip back and forth between jaded cockish flippancy and SMOLDERING RAGE.. i think what i want from jesse is for him to get his shit together enough to play it cool without being a jackass, and this being a well-written drama that is the one thing i'm never going to get)
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:44 (fourteen years ago)
yeah i was gonna say, dramatic range wld be....dramatically out of character
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:46 (fourteen years ago)
And then the last season will be Walt on the run, and his family in legal jeopardy.
then they can team up with the Botwins
― rude ragga beats from the F. U. Schnickens (sic), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 23:54 (fourteen years ago)
that's why pinkman is so hard to watch -- you never know if you're getting the smarmy charmer, the scary addict, the frightened manchild or whati did not know at the start of that scene that he would go full on "you were CUSTOMERS" but there he was, going therei want him to get his shit together so badly but he keeps not doing that
― i drive a wood paneled station dragon (La Lechera), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 23:56 (fourteen years ago)
luvd him bringing the real to those recover fools
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 01:08 (fourteen years ago)
TBF, I think shooting an innocent guy in the face with no warning requires a slightly different sort of recovery. He should crash a Hitmen Anonymous meeting and see how his rage shit flies.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 01:21 (fourteen years ago)
ha ha haa!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 02:49 (fourteen years ago)
rafael van der vaart is a fat jesse pinkman, a fat jesse pinkman.
― fields of salmon, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:53 (fourteen years ago)
i think what i want from jesse is for him to get his shit together enough to play it cool without being a jackass, and this being a well-written drama that is the one thing i'm never going to get
This is because Jesse is stupid and thank fuck for that because it's given us so much drama and excitement.
When Jesse said "pop the trunk" the other week I did briefly wonder if that was a deliberate Yelawolf reference on someone's part, and then dismissed it.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:00 (fourteen years ago)
well they're equally annoying characters
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:29 (fourteen years ago)
lol jesses mental image of himself is basically yelawolf
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:19 (fourteen years ago)
ha ha, yes
― rude ragga beats from the F. U. Schnickens (sic), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:53 (fourteen years ago)
jesus christ @ this ep
― johnny crunch, Monday, 5 September 2011 03:01 (fourteen years ago)
wow best episode in a while in my opinion. maybe going a little hard on godfather/scarface mashup stuff but fuckin A that was effective
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 5 September 2011 03:04 (fourteen years ago)