Shall we anticpate the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

Dunno yet. Probably tho

we know v little about the extent of Fring's tentacles until now - the revelation in this ep that a German-based multinat company has an ownership interest in Pollos raises a whole bunch of q's - is Gus a low-level dude in this company? does he own the German co. but still work his mgr job at Pollos? is the stake just a way of paying for the equipment in kind, and they're only making a slice of chicken profits, not meth profits?

Love how this is a flip of the usual morality tale: Jesse begins pretty amoral and, only through committing various acts of terror, starts to develop a clearer sense of right and wrong, or at least an inkling. Very efficient episode.

What are the odds that the thing the cartel wants from Gus is Walt?

Also, if Gus is in the position to make a $50 mil payout to anyone, then who knows what or who the dude owns.

such a dope episode

I was super happy for Hank at the end.

yes, esp when he won them back after they started rolleyeing over poor stir-crazy lost-it Hank

alternatively, I was so angry at Walt early on that I thought about walking out and not watching the show ever again if he's just going to keep getting worse

top dea guy feels suspect to me - on the take?

i finally watched this new ep so now i can comment...

remember there was a scene in the desert where we got the idea that hank's DEA associate (with the goatee, not the old white guy) was somehow on the take? i remember being like OOOhhhh THAT guy, of course. Hank sure has done some good work, though. I wonder if anyone will follow through on it...

a little eager to dismiss Hank at first. but that would be too obvious for BB, methinks.
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best ep of the season

epic fail line, omg

we know v little about the extent of Fring's tentacles until now - the revelation in this ep that a German-based multinat company has an ownership interest in Pollos raises a whole bunch of q's - is Gus a low-level dude in this company? does he own the German co. but still work his mgr job at Pollos? is the stake just a way of paying for the equipment in kind, and they're only making a slice of chicken profits, not meth profits?

That bit fed into a suspicion I'd had for a couple of episodes that the organisation might stretch considerably higher than Gus himself. Makes sense - why would whoever runs things put themselves in the line of fire or anywhere where they can be identified. I have been wondering whether the new guy who's occasionally coming into the laundry is actually Gus's superior.

Gus offering Walter Jr a job was a real "oh shit" moment, it's the sort of thing that would appeal to Jr and would genuinely freak Walt the fuck out.

Great observation by Sepinwall this week that this episode is all about whether you're in, or out. The cartel to Gus: yes, or no? Walt to Skyler: in, or out? Jesse: Walt? or Gus and Mike?

I have to admit to squirming in my seat pretty hard when Jesse thought about dosing the coffee. I'll also admit that I never saw his rapprochement with Walt coming. All along I'd imagined the show was angling to bring Jesse into open conflict with Walt, and now all of a sudden they're conspiring to poison Gus together!

Also, LOL at how stupid they've been with the car wash. Jesus.

I'll also admit that I never saw his rapprochement with Walt coming. All along I'd imagined the show was angling to bring Jesse into open conflict with Walt, and now all of a sudden they're conspiring to poison Gus together!

but then they had Mike's line about Jesse being loyal to the wrong person at the end of the episode. I don't think they're best buds again just yet

Also Jesse looks very much in two minds about the whole ricin thing.

Yeah - he's confused and fucked up and still kind of hates Walt's guts. But that moment when he turned around and said, hey, spare me the sales pitch, I'll do it - that surprised me.

The car wash seems stupid, but recall criminal lawyer Saul's idea was a nail salon, which surely doesn't bring in as much as a car wash. Dumb question, but how did they even pay for the car wash? $800,000 in cash? And then how could Skyler have no idea how much money they were dealing with?

Basically none of the financial stuff in the show makes sense at this point

Skyler had no idea because Walt doesn't tell her shit.

But this:

alternatively, I was so angry at Walt early on that I thought about walking out and not watching the show ever again if he's just going to keep getting worse

omg yes. I was never so angry at a TV character as I was when he was clumsily trying to manipulate Jesse into getting angry and upset enough to kill Gus.

how could Skyler have no idea how much money they were dealing with?

Because Walt's failure to communicate with her has now become practically pathological. "Church and state!!"

i.e. what Jenny said

Kinda like how Saul is now the only person Walt can fully confide in.

can we talk about the NA dog scene? that was tough to watch too.

Walt has told her he makes a ton of money on numerous occasions. If Skyler is so good with accounting, the fact that Walt can a) pay for Hank's huge medical bills, b) buy a car wash and c) impulsively buy his son a sports car should have been additional ample warning. At the least, Saul knows how much he makes, so when he and Skyler and Walt were together they should have devised a laundering operation to account for all that cash. In other words, none of the money stuff in this shows makes a lick of sense. Is Jesse making millions, too?

Anyway, one of my many predictions now is that when it all goes down, Saul will skip town with most of Walt's cash.

Jesse paid cash for a house. So yeah I assumed he was making not as much as Walt but a hell of a lot.

That cash was from that (at the time) one time pay-out from Gus, right? Before they went to work for him?

Spending it on aluminum subwoofers iirc

Am starting to think how deliciously perverse it would be if the DEA played executioner to Gus, rather than Jesse

Jesse is so not going to kill Gus.

Wouldn't it be in Gus's interest to make sure his associates know how to cover their financial tracks? I don't understand the silent manner in which they're treating Walt, whether he deserves it or not. They're still in business together.

Has Walt killed anyone in cold blood yet, point plant? Because I imagine Gus will be his first. And then Mike the pragmatist will walk up to Walt, all cool-like, and be all, good job, now you better run. And then the last season will be Walt on the run, and his family in legal jeopardy.

Basically none of the financial stuff in the show makes sense at this point

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xp

I also predict the season will end with Walt personally killing Gus. But one shouldn't second guess Breaking Bad really.

I predict the season will end with mike and jesse riding off into the sunset together, in a winnebago

Has Walt killed anyone in cold blood yet, point plant? Because I imagine Gus will be his first.

shot the guy near the end of s3, after running him over. did he also kill krazy 8? may have killed some dudes when he blew up that building with the chemical the guys thought was meth. could be more i'm forgetting.

Wait, who did Walt shoot in S3?

(Ha, point plant is funnier than point blank!)

Krazy 8 was a mix of cold blood and self-defense, he was gonna kill him but didn't, but then Krazy 8 got free and attacked Walt. And Walt killed him in the ensuing fight. iirc.

xpost - he shot the drug dealer guys who killed the kid

RUN

lol

would have been better if he said LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPjzO7C3Qv0

Huh. I could have sworn he just ran them over. Where did he get the gun from? Didn't he buy his first gun in the first minutes of this current season?

He ran them over, then used the still living guy's gun to finish him off

Like this?

http://imgs.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/tgoodman/2010/06/07/Episode-12-Walt-2-760.jpg

Here's the full scene for reference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YVis0HwZdM

can we talk about the NA dog scene? that was tough to watch too.

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virtuoso shit

it was but at the same time i'd like to see jesse deliver a few meaningful lines without the CRAZED INTENSITY so HARD IN YOUR FACE

(which is not entirely fair; he has - and it makes sense for a young guy like him, in his position, to flip back and forth between jaded cockish flippancy and SMOLDERING RAGE.. i think what i want from jesse is for him to get his shit together enough to play it cool without being a jackass, and this being a well-written drama that is the one thing i'm never going to get)