rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

At some point in the not-so-distant past, Trent Reznor and his Nine Inch Nails compadres, just for the hellof it, dressed themselves up as Mexicans.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k300/agentbedhead/Seven/nineinchmexicans1sm.jpg

first thought was
http://www.e4.com/media/EB207239-F40B-49F6-9F8C-C0A7C4209AAF_extra.jpg

jesus christ

should have went wirh mariachi costumes u_u

trent la raza amirite

those guys look like guys in sunglasses

silby's photo is Joey Barton at a fancy dress party, right?

"I, I am not"

such a perfect and beautiful little NIN phrase

okay I finally read the segment of this argument I missed

thank you, all of you, for the painful belly lols

the "uppity" bomb was particularly amazing

of all the writers, rappers and assorted others i follow on twitter, Touré was one of only two i had to drop, iirc due to simply being too annoying over time

i bet he's real cut up abt it

http://twitter.com/#!/GroverNorquist

uh i'm confused, is 'uppity' really racist? /tuomas
I'm British btw so please excuse me. We're all uppity here, this guy is our national hero: http://mrmen.wikia.com/wiki/Mr._Uppity
I mean, he is kind of brown but... ??

"uppity" isn't a racial slur, it's just used as a prefix to racial slurs often enough to carry some pretty unpleasant connotations

it was used to describe african americans who dared to stand up to degradation

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=uppity%20nigger

OK. Genuinely surprised I've never heard of that until now.

http://twitter.com/#!/GroverNorquist

― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, August 26, 2011 12:16 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

"3nd Grade"

grammar is for losers.

buy uppity n***** mugs & shirts

y'know urban dictionary definitely isn't one of the very worst places on the internet but i really think it deserves to be in the conversation more than it is

In American parlance, uppity is always problematic because it implies that ppl have and should know how to keep 'their place' socially, whether that's due to race or class or sex or any combo thereof.

yeah i was just posting that but m white beat me to it

uppity means you're acting above yr station in life

Qantas Airlines gives free Bledisoe Cup tickets to a fan who promised to "dress as Radike Samo, complete with Afro Wig, Aus rugby kit and facepaint."

I was thinking of posting this one yeah. Whats interesting about it, is in this case it was done with no malicious intent at all and, importantly, the guy in question said he thought it was awesome and didnt understand what the fuss was all about. They were just dressing up as this specific guy.

can we unban frogbs, i need his take on this

australia what minstrel shows we didn't have 'em here we go again

Look I cant and wont defend the fact blackface is clearly offensive, but I have to stress it isnt a cultural thing/known about down here. It just isnt. People do not get it. You should see the comments on this issue on newspaper sites here. its like 80% "this wasnt offensive I dont understand why people are upset" comments, even in the left wing papers.

Beyond that I'm not eqipped to argue this issue, tbh (and again, I'm also not defending it either as I fully understand why it is regarded as wrong - but only because of americans telling people tbh!)

Trayce, I don't believe that washes anymore. Since the Jackson Jive incident, it's been overwhelmingly clear to the whole of Australia (a) that blackface is not acceptable and (b) why blackface is not acceptable. These guys weren't even doing a vaguely accurate impression of the bloke, they're in shoe polish and fright wigs ffs.

I'm not attacking you at all Trayce, but these guys and Qantas should have known better, and "oh I'm sorry I didn't realise" is not good enough an excuse.

bntw lack of malicious intent is also off the point because blackface is inherently racist by dint of what it is. It's like, you wouldn't dress up as a paralympian by sitting behind bars in a monkey suit with a "SEE THE ONE-LEGGED FREAK" sign over your head.

Oh dont get me wrong - Qantas should DEFINITELY have known better. The minute anyone picked that guy's proposal as the winner, PR should have said "oh my god no, this is such a bad idea".

I think australians are very resistant to being told how to think/to PC, and I'm not sure what to think about that really.

(apart from "this is so embarrasing", obv)

so even aussies don't cogh? ;_; The Australian Zeitgeist Tracking Thread

FWIW also: "you wouldn't dress up as a paralympian by sitting behind bars in a monkey suit with a "SEE THE ONE-LEGGED FREAK" sign over your head."

I suspect some people here really would, and would vehemently defend their right to sick humour, as well.

Yeah you're right, they would (and they'd be slammed).

but I have to stress it isnt a cultural thing/known about down here. It just isnt.

I've grown up knowing that blackface is weird and gross and retrograde

SHOE POLISH

I havent, I'm ok with being honest about that. Its something I have only learned later in life. And I do remember the B&W Minstrel show and those terrible Goodies skits and etc.

But, now having read back over the frogbs shitstorm upthread I hadnt seen before this got revived I feel icky.

I don't want to sow more ill will between America and Australia. I mean, it's like when Tiger Woods called himself a spaz and Britain got all upset about it because over there spasticism is a physical disability or something and then we were all like "what? fuck you. we're not gonna stop saying spaz."

we just all have to learn to live together in this increasingly smaller world.

now I am intensely curious about what Canada's sensitivity blind spot is

Probably something to do with the Queen

iirc its the montreal wanting to become its own country thing

I just got an email from an all white band called BLACK PUSSY

they are not sweet

I feel like the acronym "smdh" was invented specifically for ppl like that

they are not sweet

― step your 'îron game up, jamie xx (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, August 29, 2011 7:54 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol

whoa when did the eagles sign brian austin green

is it inherently racist to call your white band 'black pussy' though?

Is it?