Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

Patrick said City is the place to be because they are the club of the future and they want to win everything.

Patrick said City is the place to be because they are the club of the future and they want to win everything.

Patrick said City is the place to be because they are the club of the future and they want to win everything.

Patrick said City is the place to be because they are the club of the future and they want to win everything.

Yes, I don't look forward to seeing Fergie interviews, but I do look forward to not seeing Phelan interviews.

Quite looking forward to him laying the smackdown on Man City a few times.

going to WHL tonight to eat prawn sandwiches and watch footie.

he will be more than a phelan in some respects, though conceivably less noble and implable than his erstwhile deputy

If Modric plays tonight, he's staying at Spurs; if he doesn't, he's going to Chelsea. Isn't it that simple?

It's not quite that simple - he's apparently got an injury as well (maybe fictional) and we have a 5-0 headstart and don't really need to bother with him.

fuck that noise. Sub him after a minute, let him kiss my arse on the way off.

Thought 'Arry was insisting he would play. Still not sure how this will work out, but if he doesn't play it surely goes down to DEADLINE DAY. Clear the decks for it, there's no other business outstanding.

Might Coulibaly play at forward tonight? Would like to see him.

yeah there's no argument whatsoever not to play him if even reasonably fit

Arsenal have reportedly expressed an interest in Kaka’s services, but Wenger was hoping to take him on loan. Real have refused the offer, and want to sell Kaka to the Gunners for no less than £17.5 million.

I know he got fat and all but this is a fucking bargain non? How could you not try and buy KAKA for that? If you could get him fit and playing regularly at any of the top 6, you'd win the league imo.

Coulibaly is not on spurs uefa squad list. not sure if it has to do with him impending italian citizenship, or if he's just too young.
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Wages... xpost

hmmm would have expected coulibaly to have been in that squad tbh

£17.5m for a fat overpaid 29-year old who is about 2yrs past his best at least does not strike me as a bargain.

Rather him than Joe Cole, if you're in the market for a fat, overpaid 29 year-old at least two years past his best, though.

this is kaka not jenas ffs. He'll be back in shape with games

He may be past his best but I really don't think he's fat.

modric out kaka in doyle in cl spot nailed imo

This is him in a friendly yesterday: http://www.kakafans.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/galatasaray6.jpg

that photo was just an unflattering angle anyway

svelte

i'd hit it

He's about as svelte as Lampard.

what's your point

http://www.kakafans.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/chinaIV4.jpg

he has had 2 yrs of injury problems but he's fucking kaka

dunno if I'd invest £17.5m plus £millions a year on a guy that goes all out Ricky Hatton when he's not playing tbh

then again, £17.5m in English Premier League money = "promising, if occasionally agricultural, centre half" so fuck it you may as well get a Kaka for that

yeah he's neither past his prime (ok maybe slightly but he's a ballon d'or winner ffs cut him some slack) nor fat. if wenger claims to be willing to spend €40m on a "quality player" kaka should be worth half a carroll

but if Arsenal were unwilling to pay Nasri 120,000 a week, why would they be willing to pay Kaka 180,000?

I was just eyerolling at the notion that £17.5m for a 29 year old represents "a bargain" even outside the bizarro world where people judge value for money by its relationship to Andy Carroll's transfer fee.

Kaka will not do well in a London club. Manchester, perhaps. There aren't any good restaurants in Manchester.

saved the Doyle convo for next May. y're not having him btw

I was just eyerolling at the notion that £17.5m for a 29 year old represents "a bargain" even outside the bizarro world where people judge value for money by its relationship to Andy Carroll's transfer fee.

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wld p much pay for itself in sponsership, advertising and shirt sales etc.? and that 29 year old was once judged best footballer in the world. basically if you cant spend 17m on kaka then why bother getting involved in transfers at all. (lol has 'sell on value' really become the be all and end all)

Kaka's so taken for granted - amazing player. He still has it too, injuries permitting, he was fine in the last world cup (albeit not in the best form or fitness admittedly). Go for it Arsene.

uhm madrid aren't going to sell him for that

sold sneijder for less

they bought sneidjder for a lot less, he wasn't a perez vanity purchase, and they will be very mindful of the sneijder precedent

Did the Madrid no.10 shirt really go Figo>Robinho>Sneijder>Lass Diarra?

kaka doesn't have it anymore, off the pace and doesn't have the ~glide~ he had back when he was imperious

would probably still do OK but doubt he'd set the league alight

the fat's not a massive issue really but he def doesn't have the /it/ he once had

How long a bad period can a player have before it can safely be said that he is in permanent decline? I agree with cozen about the 'glide' no longer being there for kaka. Then again Raul went through about a season and a half at Madrid where, to me at least, he went from excellent, passsed decent, into poor, before turning it around and if not quite getting back to his imperious best still returned to being really good.

Rooney went around 10 months of being outright bad before returning to form. I'd argue that Ribiery had a pretty dramatic decline also before working his way back.

Obviously age will lead to decline but Rooney, Ribiery, and Kaka aren't exactly old. The obvious one atm is Torres. Is this what he is now? Or will he return to his LFC form?

Gerrard

God yeah. I think I probably underrated Gerrard for a while due to some pissy resentment on my part at how much Sky/MOTD etc over-praised him and seemed to believe that he WAS Liverpool. Now he is playing down to those expectations. He's obviously been one of our best players but in the last couple of seasons it seems like such a hard job to actually fit him into the team in a position he likes. And the amount of time he gives the ball away will never cease to infuriate me.

Adebayor! Adebayooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrr! He's back on TV! On ITV4!

I think a lot of these come down to pace really. If a player's game is built around being quick, then when injuries or age take away the little burst that makes him quicker than average, he'd better have something else there to make up for it. Michael Owen didn't have that much more to him, but my guess is Kaka's got a lot more. Torres I don't know, I suspect he's lost just a tiny amount but that's where the killer edge is.

Ones that are clearly just form, like Rooney, are mystifying to me. If it were confidence I could understand that, but I don't think he ever lost that, even his first touch was shocking for a good while.

people seem incredibly eager to write gerrard off.

6 years