I really liked this episode. It was really funny, for a Breaking Bad episode.
― fields of salmon, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 03:29 (fourteen years ago)
ok love this show and
walt im the guy that knocks was great writing and acting
BUT
"its all about me!" was one of the worst writing moments yet in this show.
― Shaq Fu, I wont do what you tell me! (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 03:33 (fourteen years ago)
not pulling any sharkjump here btw, but man that line was superobvious facepalm
― Shaq Fu, I wont do what you tell me! (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 03:34 (fourteen years ago)
http://crosscut.com/2008/10/12/mossback/18561/Indiana-Jones%2C-meth-addict/
is this what they were getting at with the digging?
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 03:35 (fourteen years ago)
too many goofy camera tricks in this episode, esp the shovel.walt trying to speak spanish was pretty lol though. overall, felt like a lot of time-biding until the next Big Thing happens
― it was pleasant and delightful, just like (La Lechera), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 03:40 (fourteen years ago)
I really like this show, so I'm not hatin', but somebody wrote recently about how the creative team wrote themselves into a corner (as they say they love to do) and are now spending a lot of time trying to resolve it, and I'm tending to agree. I'm not saying I want a breakneck pace, but more of a build towards something wouldn't go amiss right about now.
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 03:48 (fourteen years ago)
Love camera tricks!!! I think they should have a walt penis cam for a whole episode.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 04:14 (fourteen years ago)
I think Walt figuring out the set-up was the most out-of-character thing so far. I know they tried to make it be part of his 'everything is about me' mindset but Jesse being babysat is kinda enough explanation he would need.
― kinder, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 04:26 (fourteen years ago)
I think they should have a walt penis cam for a whole episode.
snigger
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 05:33 (fourteen years ago)
walt's penis doesn't do much
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 05:41 (fourteen years ago)
Walt's penis cam ... in Skyler's vagina?
― Ellen Allien ... in my urethra? (sic), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 05:44 (fourteen years ago)
Thanks for that article Matt. Interesting stuff
― Number None, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 09:18 (fourteen years ago)
man, skyler just comes right to the point huh? BLAP. walt like a trapped boxer fending off blows. he has no answers. he's becoming unhinged.
methhead with a shotgun genuinely terrifying.
best ep of the season i reckon
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 10:53 (fourteen years ago)
Does anyone think those women are back in Honduras? Or are they in a ditch?
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 12:32 (fourteen years ago)
A ditch. In honduras. Cleaning it. But for a lot less money.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 12:52 (fourteen years ago)
Seriously though, is the implication that they are illegals? I would think Gus wouldn't even go that route, just to keep INS out of his bizniz.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 12:53 (fourteen years ago)
You mean ICE. The advantage of using undocumented workers is that you have ultimate leverage over them. They have to do what you say no matter what. I can see that appealing to Gus. I don't think ICE gives a shit as long as everything's quiet. And I imagine Gus usually keeps things very, very quiet.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 12:55 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, employers with otherwise legit business models exploit their employees' undocumented status to circumvent every measly employment law on the books.
I could see Gus taking a Bluebeard approach with the laundry employees - I'll pay you well but never go into this locked room or I'll send you back to Honduras. Also I could see him not getting ICE involved at all but just taking them south via a private carrier.
The more I think about it, the more I don't think he would have the women killed.
― ilx poster and keen dairy observer (Jenny), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 14:34 (fourteen years ago)
Gus knew it was Walt's fault, not theirs. New Victor said so.
― it was pleasant and delightful, just like (La Lechera), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 14:37 (fourteen years ago)
Tyrus. Was Sunday's ep the first time anyone referred to him by name?
― ilx poster and keen dairy observer (Jenny), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 14:46 (fourteen years ago)
think so.
― karma's ruthless invisible (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 14:52 (fourteen years ago)
loved the look he gave Walt when Walt tugged at his sleeve
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 15:24 (fourteen years ago)
I like that they've spent the first part of this season reinforcing what a completely unpleasant petty egotistical human being Walter White really is.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 16:18 (fourteen years ago)
plus her last line was the best of the eps
― hello I love you but I've chosen darkness my old friend (Edward III), Monday, August 22, 2011 11:18 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I'm the guy who KNOCKS was a great line too
― dmr, Monday, August 22, 2011 11:19 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i took both of these to be them playing at being gangster, movies are the only reference point they have for this stuff, also theyre both totally retarded
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 16:58 (fourteen years ago)
That's when we take this thread to the TMI board. Or maybe just stop watching it. That really truly would be TMI.
― DSMOS has arrived (kenan), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 18:58 (fourteen years ago)
yeah how do walt's deductive powers allow him to figure out jesse 'saving' mike was a set-up but do not allow him to think ahead to the consequences of bringing the cleaning ladies into the super secret meth lab?? hmmm
"i'm guy the who knocks" was great especially since it seems like the guy who actually knocked (jesse) is being brought into the running of the criminal organisation and the guy 'taking credit' for it (walt) is actually just an annoyance they cannot currently get around
do we think gus actually sees something in jesse?
― seasoning sauce all over me (tpp), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 21:23 (fourteen years ago)
Nothing to do with deductive powers, Walt just cares way more about sticking it to Gus than the fate of the cleaning ladies.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 21:33 (fourteen years ago)
xp Sure, why not?
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 21:34 (fourteen years ago)
I don't think Gus actually sees anything in anybody other than usefulness - I don't think he respects anybody in the world at all except insofar as they're useful to him.
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:10 (fourteen years ago)
i saw something in you, a way to f w/walt
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:14 (fourteen years ago)
I think if Gus tells anybody he sees something in them, it's for the benefit of how that person will respond on hearing that from Gus.
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:32 (fourteen years ago)
I think so, too, though I wish it were otherwise. Actually, no I don't. I wish a college recruiter legitimately saw something in Jesse, not a murderous drug kingpin.
― pullapartsquirrel (Jenny), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 23:00 (fourteen years ago)
Spinoff: Welcome Back, Pinkman in which Jesse gets his doctorate in history and comes back to teach a classroom of misfit meth cooks at the school where he met Walter White.
― pullapartsquirrel (Jenny), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 23:02 (fourteen years ago)
I want him to work as an addictions counselor.
― i drive a wood paneled station dragon (La Lechera), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 23:16 (fourteen years ago)
All these are boring. I want him to do something exciting! Like kill another chemist! Or outwit another meth-head!
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 23:17 (fourteen years ago)
But not exactly like those two things cuz he's already done them.
It's no coincidence that Jere Burns looks like Old Pinkman (look at eyes and noses)
Before http://postdash.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/aaron_paul-375x500.jpgAfter http://www.thebloom.com/images/celeb-past/jere_burns.jpg
― i drive a wood paneled station dragon (La Lechera), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 23:20 (fourteen years ago)
luvd the digging ploy
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 23:52 (fourteen years ago)
Tweakers be diggin bitch
― Aerosol, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 00:42 (fourteen years ago)
Just chatting with someone about the show who reckons that Jesse and Gus never actually met before the boxcutter scene. Is this right?
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 00:47 (fourteen years ago)
nope: sitdown w/ thugs & Jesse/Walt at the end of last season
― õ_Ò (Pillbox), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 00:48 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, the scene where jesse showed he wasn't scared of gus - out in that dusty mobile office in the middle of desert.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 09:32 (fourteen years ago)
Spinoff: Welcome Back, Pinkman in which Jesse gets his doctorate in history and comes back to teach a classroom of misfit meth cooks at the school where he met Walter White
lmao
― DSMOS has arrived (kenan), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 19:15 (fourteen years ago)
Not really an enormous amount to talk about in that episode but I enjoyed it all the way through. Some of the writing felt a bit clumsier than usual but I loved the Mike and Jesse stuff.
Also Walter Jr's car was totally a Jessemobile, right down to the music. Hope that was deliberate on the producers' part.
Baby Holly's collection of hats is exceptionally cute.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 25 August 2011 12:31 (fourteen years ago)
the first time i have actually hated walt, wanted him to be punished severely, seen him as the enemy - no, it wasn't when he repeatedly put everyone around him in danger, no it wasn't when he could have saved jane but didn't - but was when, in the midst of trying to convince these blameless ladies at gus' dry cleaning operation to put themselves at risk he actually opens up his fucking billfold and starts bribing them. i actually cursed at the TV. that was my breaking point with him. i'm sure there will be big and small ways where i'll root for him, it's the nature of the show, but after that little scene with those women, any punishment or pain he personally receives will feel justified to me
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 25 August 2011 12:36 (fourteen years ago)
i don't know what it says about me that it's THAT rather than say ordering gale's hit, or any number of other things.. i suppose everything else could be explained somehow, justified as necessary or expedient. the scene with the cleaning ladies was just gratuitous fuckery. (as was the car, come to that)
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 25 August 2011 12:38 (fourteen years ago)
I've pretty much hated walt the whole series. He's never been a sympathetic character for me.
― Jeff, Thursday, 25 August 2011 12:59 (fourteen years ago)
Walt's getting arrogant and he's getting careless. He's never been that Machiavellian, he's always been idiotically impulsive with the odd moment of clarity, but I can see himself shooting himself in the foot before the series is out.
Really intrigued by where the Jesse storyline is going. Obviously Gus can't get away with killing him, but there's not much he can do about Jesse suddenly getting shot down by Mexican drug barons. By that logic putting Jesse further in the line of fire would make a lot of sense to Gus.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 25 August 2011 13:06 (fourteen years ago)
would there be a difference to Walt? murder Jesse - get Jesse accidentally killed... either way Jesse would be dead and Walt will be über pissed.
that said, i think if they straight up just killed Jesse Walt would not really be in a position to do much of anything about it, aside from throwing a tantrum.
― karma's ruthless invisible (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 25 August 2011 14:25 (fourteen years ago)
yes. after the car for walt jr (which i wouldn't be surprised if gus knows about already) and the superlab shenanigans i can imagine gus thinking that not even pure blue meth is worth the unpredictability walt has come to represent. mike and gus have a sit-down with him, walt's defiant, and then from out of the shadows steps jesse, sneering at him. now what you gon do?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 25 August 2011 14:28 (fourteen years ago)