Fun with Firefox

fucking thing

tree style tabs is absolutely necessary btw

I'm still running 3.6.20
Is there any reason to upgrade?
It works perfectly atm

no need to upgrade until you are exploited by nefarious hackers

I liked 5 because of some bells and whistles, but I can't remember what those were.

I'm pretty skeptical of 6 so far because 1. Gmail was always https, but not it's not. I don't know if it's b/c of FF 6, but I wonder.

2. The URLs shown in the address bar are messed up. For example, I can be on ILX, then use the Google search tool to find look up "hedgehog gifs" and the URL stays at the last ILX URL even as I click more and more links.

What's up?

My Gmail is https but the padlocky thingo in the FF5 address bar isn't there. Not great.

i would suggest the https everywhere extension and perhaps resetting yr bookmark to go to https gmail?

i still love firefox because with its extensions i can set it up exactly the way i like it, and while some add-ons have fallen by the wayside, other better ones have largely risen to fill their places.

that said, i don't understand this accelerated versioning --> no versioning at all, which sounds like bs. fucking tell me what the changes are.

ubuntu upgraded the other day to 3.5.something... (i think, maybe 3.6) its the Long Term Support version so i guess it's playing safe

Firefox 6 and up don't display an actual padlock graphic when the page is on https.

and hasn't the padlock thing been replaced with the extended favicon thing next to the url bar? if you mouseover it'll tell you 'verified by whatever'. mine is.

Yeah sorry, that's what I meant, the little coloured bar thingo (I was lazy/walk-posting and cbf doing the extra words). That coloured bar thingo doesn't show up for me in Gmail, despite 'https' being in the URL.

Modify Headers is working now

apparently staying on versions 5 or 4 is bad. for security reasons if u don't want 6.0 u should go back to 3.6.

If I open a new window and type in the https address for Gmail, it redirects to http. WTF. It simply will not go to https.

Also, the URLs are still fucked up. I'm on FB, but even I can go to my profile, messages, pictures, etc. and the URL remains: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taking_Tiger_Mountain_(By_Strategy). Which, now that I think of it, really doesn't make sense b/c, how did I get to FB from Wiki-p?

Anyway, these quirks makes me dubious of the whole version. Not good.

Update: clicking a Mail To link opens a new Gmail message in https. But it still won't open my Gmail account in https. Weird shit.

There's an https setting on the first page of Gmail settings. Is that on?

It is! I checked that. It is working in IE. And I have rebooted a couple times since yesterday.
I'm not even really worried about the connection not being secure (should I be?) as much as I'm annoyed that FF is FF-ing me.

Weird! I can't help you with that one.

have u tried clearing cache/deleting cookies?

there's an interesting plugin that I use that converts FF to IE (for pages that can only load in IE)

but I don't know why https://gmail.com wouldn't load in FF. works fine on the old versions
maybe you accidentally blocked it on noscript? i dunno

I clear the cache regularly (this laptop is old as hell and going through Google Reader makes FF bog down, and clearing the cache fixes that problem), but not cookies.

BUT! it seems like typing in "https," which I tried before, without success, worked this time. So: tentative hoorah!

I am going to clear cookies.

Maybe that will take care of that URL problem. The word "cookies" made me want one, so I'm going to clear my cache and cookies while I go to Potbelly to get a sandwich and a cookie.

I'd google search IE Tab plugin just for the hell of it. It's a pretty cool plugin

I have had that plugin for a while.

I'm still running 3.6.20
Is there any reason to upgrade?
It works perfectly atm

me too but i think its seen its last security update so keep an eye out
people got problems with their new update schedule and one of their top guys has been a dick about it, their whoa radical new version scheme (they're gonna 'get rid of' version numbers shortly) and design changes are all about biting chrome for no good reason, they're putting cool stuff in in but the effects on the user experience doesnt seem to concern them atm

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/mozilla-to-enterprise-customers-drop-dead/3497

http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2011/06/firefox-update-policy-the-enterprise-is-wrong-not-mozilla.ars

http://www.conceivablytech.com/8983/business/dear-mozilla-version-numbers-matter

Thanks for the info

ff7 beta's out with the emphasis on speed. but sod that if 6 still has problems with my favoured plugins. (tbh they are all working now but a few of them i had to manually update)

firefox 6 appears to lack the ability to remember where the iplayer pop-out player used to be

FF5? FFS more like

Releasing new rounded-off numbered versions this fast only leads to inflation of anticipation, annoying the hell out of people who use a lot of add-ons, like me. It becomes really confusing for a lot of users. Maybe the only solution is to turn off auto-update and just dive in a new version when it's completely tested out and with all add-ons working. I am on FF6 now, but basically this will probably mean I will always stay one version behind the newest version.

i thought it was only drupal that did this shit

"your useful stuff only works with 5 but the current stable version is 6; however, we suggest all users begin using 7 as soon as possible"

argh. i pressed on 'install updates' and it went from 6 to 7 beta. luckily this is on laptop which i only ever boot into windows to install updates.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/tracerhand/ff5.png

jesus christ

499,188 K just won't do

i mean

i feel like these guys are approaching adobe levels of sheer arrogance and inattention to performance, cf avid

about:cache

my task manager is showing 380MB

about cache: is saying 316KB for in-memory cache

but i've got 8GB so i'm not scared of a piddling 380MB

seems like some huge entries from juno.co.uk are in the memory cache.. haven't visited in days though - how to clear?

restart firefox? it can't hold things in memory if it isn't running... (although it might write them to disk)

cache-viewer add-in is also handy, lets you see and delete (or save) individual entries.

i've restarted it several times since i visited juno

i will try cache viewer, chuckling inwardly at the idea of adding another plugin to suss out why ff is using so much RAM

Just go to Tools> Clear recent history > and select only "Cache" from the list of things to clear.

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu216/le_bateau_ivre/Untitled.png

Whoa...

Admittedly, I have 24 tabs open. But still...

333K. And I closed everything and restarted yesterday afternoon so hardly any tabs.

My stupid URL glitch is still going on. So minor a problem, and yet so irritating.

182mb here, 10 tabs

On a Mac, 10 tabs, 560 MB

(FF5, cbf upgrading)