Shall we anticpate the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

Well, there's no point talking about what already happened, is there? That's what the show is for.

I still think Walt will kill Hank. Hank is peripheral enough to the action - and more or less paraplegic at this point - that he's expendable. Also, it would be some nice irony, given that a) Walt saved his life and b) doing that is what left his paraplegic.

And then Hank will wake up and it will all have been a dream. In the afterlife. And then it goes black.

I think nobody will kill anyone and something bad will happen to Walt Jr, but he will be ok

Well yeah. Plus the occasional "holy shit I didn't see that coming!"

And then I think the baby will say "dada" at Walt.

And Gus will kill Mike and Jessie will kill Gus for killing Mike and then Hank will kill Jessie for that and then Walt will kill Hank and go to jail, but leave lots of money for his family.

And the car was will do really well and Skyler will open car washes all over the Southwest. And Bob Odenkirk will go to jail/hide out in mexico

But the idea that Hank already suspects Walt is Heisenberg has no basis in logic. This is not that the show hasn't deliberately insinuated this, of course, just that it doesn't really stand up to any scrutiny.

― SonicBum, Friday, August 19, 2011 3:18 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

imho its possible that hank is already feeling a lil weird abt what walts up to - that is his intuition is telling him something - which if hes a good investigator is he should be p attuned to - intuition is the ability to detect a pattern in v subtle clues - like it could be enough that hank gets weird and hella tense when heisenberg comes up - but there are a bunch of more obvious things too, the money the chemistry background the fugue state the strange behavior etc - irl suspects have been examined based on far less for sure

this seems to be what the show is portraying at this point - in hank and walts two most recent interactions hank is seriously sizing walt up vibing him out asking leading questions hardly breathing when hank speaks just watching him etc - i think at this point hanks not quite sure or cognizant of what hes up to - its just his cop training kicking in - hes like a dog smelling something on the breeze

As I mentioned above, the relationship between Hank and Walt - and Walt and Marie, and Hank and Skyler, etc. - is all a little weird, standard/typical of in-laws thrown together by marriage. Like, might as well make nice and make the most of it, none of them are going anywhere anytime soon.

o rite thx for clearing that up josh in chicago

IMO, of course. Like, I like my bro in law, but the few times we've ever hung out, just the two of us, have always been a little awkward. Like, who is this guy?

its a show its abt things!

It's a show about nothing. Last ep will be all:

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lde1ufwrgM1qzid25o1_400.jpg

haha

Well ultimately I guess it's impossible to discern what Hank the character suspects or intuits and what the show wants the viewer to feel watching any given scene -- Walt is the point of entry for the viewer, so I think the show's intention is for the viewer to feel somewhat paranoid and claustrophobic when Hank and Walt interact, like the noose is always tightening even when it's not. My point was just that maybe Walt's slip wasn't as damning as a lot of people seem to believe. My other point is that Hank's obsession with Heisenberg doesn't jibe with the idea that he has these highly sensitive detective tools: At his best Heisenberg should lead to Gus. Arresting Heisenberg does nothing for the DEA or the community. If Heisenberg DOESN'T lead to Gus, someone fucked up. Hank has worked this beat long enough to know this. If he's sharp enough to pick up on subtle clues in Walt's demeanor, he's definitely savvy enough to know that the chemist who cooks the meth isn't the guy he wants. It would be like McNulty zeroing in on Bodie because he couldn't even conceive of Stringer Bell.

More like McNulty zeroing in on Stringer Bell because he couldn't conceive of the Greek. Oh wait that's kinda what he did.

I mean imagine that press conference: "Dear Albuquerque we are proud to announce that we nabbed the dude who cooked all that superb meth, although we were unable to dismantle the elaborate and massive machine by which it was distributed. So now you can rest easy knowing your kids won't be tempted with the 99-percent-pure shit; they will be smoking a product that is somewhat less pure!"

I get the impression that since Hank's injury and being out of the force he's been thinking a little outside of the box - as you say, not at all consciously, just allowing his intuition and imagination to kind of run free (I think this is maybe what they're illustrating with the crystal collection? although I'm sure that's gonna turn out to be something more definite, plot-wise). But yeah I think anything that can be perceived as OMG HE KNOWS is just TV playing with us.

on some level hank and for that matter gus' interest in walt/heisenberg is based on fascination, they want to be associated w/this guy who cooks the best meth in the world - they also have more concrete reasons for wanting him which is for gus that its good for business and for hank he gets this pure ass meth off the street - now im not sure what hanks conception of the pollos cartels org chart is but yeah no doubt he want to take the whole thing down, but heisenbergs crazy blue meth sure seems like a major hook for him - and its worth noting that iirc heisenberg was portrayed in the Intel he got as the cook and the kingpin, tho were i hank id for sure be looking at that w/a skeptical eye

and id like to state for the record that if what were witnessing is not something dawning in hanks mind re walts culpability in all this then i think the show is willfully misleading us or just getting the tone all wrong

I mean imagine that press conference: "Dear Albuquerque we are proud to announce that we nabbed the dude who cooked all that superb meth, although we were unable to dismantle the elaborate and massive machine by which it was distributed. So now you can rest easy knowing your kids won't be tempted with the 99-percent-pure shit; they will be smoking a product that is somewhat less pure!"

― SonicBum, Friday, August 19, 2011 5:54 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is basically what the cops do all the time, except even more impotently its usually just a pile of drugs that theve seized, not a virtuosos chef

@Alex in SF -- Neither is really a perfect analogy though. String wasn't even connected to the Greek. That entire relationship went through an incredibly diluted chain so that NO ONE was connected to the Greek. (String got his product from Prop Joe, right?) So it's not like McNulty could have got Stringer to flip on the Greek. Meanwhile Walt has been to Gus' house for dinner, knows the mechanics of his entire money-laundering op, has watched the dude commit murder...

this is basically what the cops do all the time, except even more impotently its usually just a pile of drugs that theve seized, not a virtuosos chef

― ice cr?m, Friday, August 19, 2011 11:00 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

LOL, good point.

sobotka knew the greek

don't ruin The Wire

I still ain't seen the last season

haha ok i guess theres a thread for that

TBH the Wire's portrayal of the drug trade is a hell of a lot more authentic than BB's, I'd imagine.

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But that's my point: How was Sobotka connected to Stringer? Etc. It's a silly comparison anyway, my fault. The Wire is a fairly realistic and complex portrayal of the drug industry; BB is a drama focusing on a very small group of people and their complex psychologies.

(BTW sorry admrl -- FWIW this is all S2 shit!)

so next ep is def gonna have some skyler awareness happening as a result of his drunken bs because the commercials show a clip of her yelling at walt that he is in over his head.

no mentions of the wire please...this is a thread about a show that isn't the greatest piece if tv art in the history of realistic magical complete bullshit.

that doesn't make sense, Ronan

i'd had a few drinks and wanted to criticise the wire.

please forgive me sur

i do liftin wurk very well

haha

also LOL @:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0903747/board/nest/187185959?d=187185959&p=1#187185959

by CUSeeMeGuzzle

i had a totally epic crime-fighting dream last night, in which i was hank's sidekick.

awesome

was he in wheelchair y/n

nah he was walking

were you gomie?

things that make you irrationally happy: being the first person to post on a tv thread the day after the show!

what did you all think of this week? felt it tended to hammer home some of what's going on in case you hadn't twigged it last week, eg they are giving jesse something to believe in, look, here is gus saying "well done" etc.

the scene with the methhead in the house was great. not a major advancement plot-wise but an okay ep i guess. the skyler stuff is getting more annoying though, like, i know they keep having her reference the fact she is just a big moaner, but they kind of need to do more with her character, at the moment she really is just whinging about stuff.

I loved Walt* pulling apart the motivation for Jesse's ridealongs, Jesse going "maybe it was at first but what if they mean it man, ps fuck you," and actually turning himself right by the end of the episode

*except for actually seeing him do this, god what an asshole

re: skyler "whinging" .. uhh, Walt is acting INSANE. She seemed reasonable in last nite's episode.

yeah, stop whining that the guy I worked with was shot in his own home, that'll never happen to me. I make the money, man. I roll the nickels. the game is mine.

plus her last line was the best of the eps

I'm the guy who KNOCKS was a great line too

and then Walt goes in the shower to re-shave his head to try and stay in character

nothing huge happened this episode but it was good, everything they've been building up got cranked up a couple more notches tension-wise

re: skyler "whinging" .. uhh, Walt is acting INSANE. She seemed reasonable in last nite's episode.

yeah this is otm. if you want the show to be Natural Born Killers comic-book stuff then she can not "whinge" but a person involved with what she's been forced by association with her husband to become involved with is literally in peril 24 hours a day, and that also goes for her children: the teenager, and the infant. something is wrong with Skyler if she stops "whinging" for even a minute, given her situation.

now that there are multiple Pollos trucks being shot up or having their drivers murdered I don't think Hank's goofy revelation with the napkin is all that important to the plot. obviously the cops are going to think the ckicken biz is involved in something shady.

gus staging jesse's hero moment and walt subsequently guessing it was staged... feels like magical TV plotting, kinda underwhelmed by that whole thread

the mike + jesse show makes for quality viewing tho