I HATE APPLE

yeah.

pissed that they took "save as" away from TextEdit in Lion.

is there a better "light" text editor for OS X?

pissed that they took "save as" away from TextEdit in Lion.

I misread as "save us"

TextWrangler?

i just switched back to pc

yay

windows 7 is kind of awesome

do you need rich text euler?

ugh software update keeps stalling out at 98%, "writing files". standalone installers work fine.

tried an OS re-install, problem has returned. anyone know what i should try next?

thomp...really? im running both lion and w7 and windows 7 is the only one im having probs with

nope, no rich text needed

I mostly write in TexShop, but I don't use it for html editing & don't need a "full-serviced" html setup b/c uggh, just plain text. I can do it in terminal w/ vi but I'm slower in vi than I am in a regular text editor.

successor: i just switched back to windows after two-three years on an ooold (pre-intel) mac and it's nice having the OS feel that's 'natural' to me back -- also they've borrowed all of the mac os features that i actually liked, so too there's this 'you got your peanut butter' feeling to it

also there's actually something refreshing about having a computer that crashes and hangs and you have to work out what's going wrong with it, it occupies a puzzle solving centre of my brain that is otherwise starved for things to do. i.e. now i don't have to bother with the crossword puzzle

http://news.softpedia.com/news/OS-X-Lion-Drops-Save-As-One-of-the-Oldest-Features-in-Computing-213322.shtml

says:
UPDATE: as our Skeptic reader notes, "In TextEdit, you CAN save it in a different format - using the same trick as with preview (i.e. Duplicate and then Save). You are then presented with a dialog that lets you choose the name and format."

I am really liking having windows and linux on the same pc - its like a mullet - windows for work, ubuntu for party!

lukas: is this 10.7.1? if not, try the combo update to whatever version of 10.6 you're at.

gbx otm that textwrangler is a good default plain text editor. monaco 9pt is a terrible default font and john gruber likes it, but don't hold that against it.

if you find an editor you really like then remember you can still use texshop to compile preview (file -> open in exernal editor or whatever it's called)

i actually really liked subethaedit for some reason. never used the collaborative stuff and never paid for it, but it clicked for me until getting a post 7.0 vim running on os x became != agony

yeah I oughta give that one a shot, I've read about it before. I'm pretty undemanding in my needs for an editor, or maybe it's that I've never figured out how a good editor could help b/c I rarely use good editors? I just write lots of prose in tex & do a little html tinkering for professional reasons.

I mean textwrangler

definitely start with textwrangler

ya otm

it's got kind of a weird System 7 vibe which rubs some people the wrong way

I am really liking having windows and linux on the same laptop - its like a mullet - linux to do stuff, windows for, er, Update Windows

i've played with subethaedit but is it supposed to do anything other than collaborative stuff?

Euler, if you're going to use a "conventional" editor w/TeX (or even TeXShop itself) then I recommend taking a look at the TextExpander utility. i've only been toying with it for a couple days (i use snipMate with vim), but it could save you a TON of work if you take the time to set up the snippets.

also there might be prerolled LaTeX snippets out there, too

subethaedit's USP is definitely the collaborative stuff, and it has some basic programmers features (syntax hilighting, block editing), but i only ever used it as textedit without the rich text.

the heavyweight features of textwrangler will mostly stay out of your way, but it will syntax higlight your latex, which is nice.

gotcha thomp. i get paid to find problems with computers so when it happens unexpectedly at home I find myself kind of pissed like im giving myself something free when i should be getting paid

caek, it's 10.6.8, and i'll try that, thanks

I do like syntax highlighting of tex.

related q: have any of you sent tex documents written in Lion to other people, to confirm that they *can't* see the previous versions of those docs?

found a solution to my controlling itunes on one comp from another: OS X's inbuilt screen sharing, crude but effective

and with lion's full screen spaces I can just have the other macbook as a space on my desktop

I am really liking having windows and linux on the same pc - its like a mullet - windows for work, ubuntu for party!

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I did that for years, realised I only ever booted into windows for itunes, and blew away the whole partition and bought a mac.

...which somewhat complicates my 10.7 fallback position, because what I would be falling back to is ubuntu.

i don't really like this "full screen apps" thing and i can't understand natural scrolling without a touchscreen.

def. not seeing the value of full screen yet; on a widescreen monitor doesn't this just make e.g. browsing or text editing bizarrely wide?

I don't use it for those two things! Not unless there's a website with wacky fullscreen stuff.

yeah I guess those are my main two computing things, + iTunes but I already run that more or less full-screen so whatever. maybe it's good for photoshop etc.

Aperture, Screen Sharing (remote desktop).. not much of anything yet.

considering how good lion has turned out i can't wait for icloud

Lion's been great here!

i dunno if it's the five year old hardware or maybe i should have done a clean install but i can't say the same

Full screen is great until you want to drag in a file from Finder.

i would rather have really good window snapping than full screen ... i am using bettersnaptool right now.

http://ifredrik.com/applications/ <-- LION TWEAKS <-- FREE

http://cultofmac.cultofmaccom.netdna-cdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/lion-tweaks.jpg

didn't do full install, but cleaned out a lot of crap first. installed Lion and actually "subscribed" to Adobe CS Standard 5.5. For the first time in decades of using computers, I don't have any software that I didn't pay for. (don't even ask me about fonts...)

But things are running really smooth. Maybe even faster. Just as likely due to the cleaning up I did before updating but still.

I think I love launchpad, soon as I put all the apps I hardly use into folders and get them off the main page.

I don't miss scrollbars.

Two kind of key things don't work, but it doesn't matter. My monitor calibrator required rosetta, however xrite claims it will have a paid (cheap) version of updated software next month. And for my ancient scanner I've been using an old version of Silverfast that doesn't run. So I may just shell out for Vuescan.

i sort of want to buy autocad

I had mixed feelings about subscribing. Obviously in the long run it would make sense to buy it instead of paying 60+ dollars a month to run it. But buying it complete is 1300 dollars. Then when it's time to upgrade, it's another 300 bucks. It actually seems more cost-effective to subscribe. Maybe they think it's more likely people will keep paying rather then upgrading, or I guess they don't have upgrades that often so it works out they'll get more out of me. But purely psychologically, I absolutely cannot afford to spend 1300 dollars on the software right now, but I can commit to 60 bucks a month. Smart move on Adobe's part. Too bad I HATE ADOBE as much as I sometimes hate APPLE.

Fuck Adobe, seriously. That company can burn.