#8: Gates of Heaven (Errol Morris, 1978)
http://media.jinni.com/movie/gates-of-heaven/gates-of-heaven-1.jpeg
61 points/5 votes/1 first-place vote
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjEZv6y_YO4
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:19 (twelve years ago) link
"look guys, i and many other people on this very thread write about music. but i'm not gonna go take a big drama queen dump all over the beach boys poll when "good vibrations" takes no. 1 over some side b album cut from surf's up."
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:19 (twelve years ago) link
big drama queen dump
lol
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:20 (twelve years ago) link
Strange--you can find lots of YouTube clips for Gates of Heaven, but almost nothing for The Thin Blue Line.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:20 (twelve years ago) link
btw is looks like all of Streetwise is up on Youtube.
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:21 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i'm psyched for streetwise, too, & hadn't heard of it. the anecdote i just read looking it up is interesting, too:
The first night of shooting, Bell was able to earn the trust of the kids by doing something unexpected. They were filming in the Dismas Center, a facility that provides food, counseling, and recreation for kids. Suddenly Chrissie, a sixteen-year-old street kid, became very angry with Bell for filming her. To everyone's amazement, Bell opened his camera magazine and gave her the exposed roll of film. Chrissie stormed out, holding the roll of film, which was later found crumpled on the sidewalk. After that incident, whenever Chrissie saw Mark and Bell on the street, she wanted to be filmed and to be their friend. By giving Chrissie the exposed film, Bell showed her and the other kids that he was not trying to steal something from them. If the kids wanted to be part of the film that was fine, but if they didn't want to, that was OK. too. Bell understood that it was hard for these kids to trust anyone, but he hoped they would learn to trust him enough to make the film.
slightly confusing for britishes on being by a martin bell however.psyched gates of heaven placed
― sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:23 (twelve years ago) link
#7: American Movie (Chris Smith, 1999)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_hOImVOiGPo8/S3IiQ3w52AI/AAAAAAAAA_c/NAwVA_5An1A/s400/americanmovie1.jpg
64 points/8 votes/1 first-place vote
www.youtube.com/watch?v=cugo51RqZWI
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:23 (twelve years ago) link
Oi! xps
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:24 (twelve years ago) link
x-post - Yeah that anecdote is really interesting. I filmed some at-risk teenagers for a video project during an internship a couple years ago so stuff like that is really interesting to me. One of the things I found that got them talking/opening up was giving them the camera and letting them film each other but, yeah, that's very neat.
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:25 (twelve years ago) link
there's a chilling scene in Streetwise where tiny's talking to roberta about how dangerous hooking is ("girls get killed out there"); roberta was later killed by the Green River Killer. also the opening shot is extraordinary
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:27 (twelve years ago) link
#6: Hoop Dreams (Steve James, 1994)
http://blog.whatmovieshouldiwatchtonight.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/hoop-dreams.jpg
68 points/8 votes
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWUYDZzwybc
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:27 (twelve years ago) link
x-post - seriously? I'm also vaguely obsessed by the Green River Killer's story. Fuck. I know what I'm doing tonight.
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:28 (twelve years ago) link
I've been trying to post short clips (or, if stuck, trailers) rather than full-length films, because I figure they're going to get pulled at some point.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:28 (twelve years ago) link
i have not seen so many of these films, both the nomination process & the results have reminded me how sketchy i am w/docs
― sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:28 (twelve years ago) link
Oh also, I'm happy to see American Movie even though I figured it would show up today.
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:29 (twelve years ago) link
#5: The Sorrow and the Pity (Marcel Ophüls, 1969)
http://pixhost.me/avaxhome/2007-12-06/bscap0033.jpg
70 points/5 votes/1 first-place vote
www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1FXDKE3HWk
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:31 (twelve years ago) link
blarg i did not need to skim the green river killer wiki at this moment in time
― sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:31 (twelve years ago) link
getting better!
i and many other people on this very thread write about music
^doesn't get worse
― satan club sandwich (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:34 (twelve years ago) link
#4: Harlan County U.S.A. (Barbara Kopple, 1976)
http://ferdyonfilms.com/Harlan%206.jpg
78 points/5 votes/1 first-place vote
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCiVMngILEI
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:34 (twelve years ago) link
sorry schlump :(
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:35 (twelve years ago) link
harlan county was my other first place vote. incredible movie
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:35 (twelve years ago) link
no it's okay!, you kind of know what you're getting, but just jesus, brutal. there's sorta so much information & such a volume of detail that it kinda obscures what was even happening. terrible.
― sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:37 (twelve years ago) link
#3: Capturing the Friedmans (Andrew Jarecki, 2003)
http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/protectedimage.php?image=NoelMegahey/friedmans2.jpg
88 points/8 votes
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVY4ehqJjAA
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:39 (twelve years ago) link
well, that's one of mine today.
xpost!
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:39 (twelve years ago) link
and another I need to see
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:41 (twelve years ago) link
starting to feel prudish at things i didn't persevere with :/
― sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link
#2: Grizzly Man (Werner Herzog, 2005)
http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/050817/050817_grizzlyMan_hmed.grid-6x2.jpg
98 points/8 votes/1 first-place vote
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rP5DHbyOwQ
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link
look guys, Eric and I write about film. It shouldn't be that surprising that we have more historically-oriented expectations, right?
Not if you recognize that the rest of us *don't* write about film...?
― Get a Brain Rick Moranis (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link
i didnt vote for any herzog, but i would've gone with grizzly man if i did. i figured it wouldnt need any help placing though
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
x-post
^ Was one of my two first place votes thanks to a rec from an ILXor. Brother's Keeper was the other.
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
I do recognize it, jaymc, but nevertheless expect you to see the same stuff.
― satan club sandwich (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link
#1: Long Hard Road Out of Hell: The Making of Good Burger (Strongo Hulkington, 2012)
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link
#1: Crumb (Terry Zwigoff, 1994)
http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/Crumb_movie_image-4.jpg
163 points/13 votes/4 first-place votes
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlT4QZchxQw
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link
lol strongo
― sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:46 (twelve years ago) link
and there it is then.
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:46 (twelve years ago) link
Why?
― Get a Brain Rick Moranis (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:46 (twelve years ago) link
was that the only herzog to place, btw?
bcz critics are not rational ppl, as we learn every day here. xp
― satan club sandwich (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:47 (twelve years ago) link
bravo clemenza, for taking our polls and taking our shit, you bastard, for orchestrating a poll so unkind to so many directors, goddammit, wtf
― sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:47 (twelve years ago) link
no, schlump, the kinski doc placed too.
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:47 (twelve years ago) link
and yes, thanks clemenza!
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
It wasn't even close--almost half the voters (13/30) listed Crumb, and 15% had it as their #1. If anyone wants to post his or her list now, please do.
No problem. I love documentaries, so this was great for me. Thanks for voting.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, thank you Clemenza!
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
#1: Land of Hope and Change: The Con of Barack Obama (Michael Moore, 2014)
― satan club sandwich (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
No way I'm posting my ballot in these shark-infested waters. I am, however, currently compiling a list of the all ones from here I now need to see.
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
my list:
Crumb - 20 pointsNight and Fog - 20 pointsThe Filth and the Fury - 10 pointsThe Fog of War - 10 pointsShoah - 10 pointsHarlan County USA - 10 pointsHistoire(s) du Cinema - 5 pointsSalesman - 5 pointsHigh School - 5 pointsBurden of Dreams - 5 points
boooooooring
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:50 (twelve years ago) link
Herzog got votes for three or four other films. When I post the final list of 40, should I also post the other 182 films that got votes (or would that be redundant alongside individual lists)?
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:50 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks for the work on this one, clemenza!
― L.P. Hovercraft (WmC), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
Oh whatever (also p boring I guess but they're all good!)
Grizzly Man - 30Brother's Keeper - 30Grey Gardens - 5American Movie - 5Capturing the Friedmans - 5Little Deiter Needs to Fly - 5Roger and Me - 5Don't Look Back - 5Stop Making Sense - 5Murderball - 5
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
WmC: Would you be able to add end-brackets after the date on the first two films posted way above (Salesman and The Filth and the Fury)? I've learned to live with all the stupid typos I make when posting, but I obsess over little things like that.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link