Innocuous things that make you irrationally angry (a list thread)

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Yeah, I thought the idea itself wasn't a very bright one, but ultimately I had to re-read it again to really understand what is meant there when there really isn't a conclusion drawn. Presenting the "facts" as they are definitely looks racist on the abstract and I do wonder if he ever really thought about adding a bit about IQ and what it really measures. We don't really have any problem saying that certain races are susceptible to certain diseases or whatever so I don't think it's wrong to suggest our brains may be different, though citing IQ definitely seems off the more I think about it, since "intelligence" isn't really something we can measure.

frogbs, Monday, 15 August 2011 22:45 (fourteen years ago)

you can find "research" for just about any point you're trying to prove. most hard sociological research doesn't actually say much of anything! the distance between indicators/correlation and cause/effect is almost always gigantic. making big general claims about things like intelligence from studies that try to measure intelligence in nearly-always-wanting ways is ridiculous. making cause-and-effect claims without addressing the huge list of outside influences at very obviously at play is just a sad joke. there is absolutely no valid conclusion anyone can draw from this study. the only valid thing you can say about the study is to repeat the exact terms and process of the study itself.

political correctness is basically reverse racism imo, it operates with the same dualities in the same frame but tries to reverse the imbalance. i think it is a real phenomenon. it is a tacky, on-the-surface way for politicians and other white people to send signals that they are sympathetic and understanding of racial issues.

but much more than that it has been constructed by actual racists who use studies to "prove" their racist points as an imaginary accusation made by imaginary people in order to make it seem as though their truth is being obscured by rhetoric. as a narrative, it is complete bullshit. underneath the twin appeal to hard science and politically correct boogeymen is a desire to justify the reactionary impulse humans feel when confronted with cultures that are different from theirs. i.e. racism.

puerile fantasies (Matt P), Monday, 15 August 2011 23:01 (fourteen years ago)

See, I think that this wikipedia quote is on point:

The New Left later re-appropriated the term political correctness as satirical self-criticism; per Debra Shultz: "Throughout the 1970s and 1980s, the New Left, feminists, and progressives . . . used their term politically correct ironically, as a guard against their own orthodoxy in social change efforts"

The term is basically a self-satirizing warning to make sure that social issues are intelligently addressed rather than overreaching or conforming to some sort of exaggerated norm. The right repurposed this by appropriating it and then applying it with wide strokes: instead of being a caution, it was applied to many valid attempts to be culturally conscious.

So now we have this mishmash where people in the center-to-right think that there's this conceptual stalking horse that they have to watch for and acknowledge in order to keep the conversation civil. Just saying "well, it might not be politically correct, but.." is a red herring because it's basically saying "I have no clue whether I'm about to offend people."

And then there's the version Matt just mentioned in his last paragraph, where people act like they're going to be called racists no matter what because they don't want to follow the imaginary rules of straw men.

mh, Monday, 15 August 2011 23:43 (fourteen years ago)

My bastard CTO keeps booking meetings at lunchtime. That and the PAs' ceaseless wittering is really getting my back up this morning.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:08 (fourteen years ago)

luchtime meetings, so fucking rude. one strategy: block-book all yr lunchtimes in outlook as busy.

ledge, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:11 (fourteen years ago)

Might have to start doing that.

Particularly because the cunt keeps doing this and then half the time his previous meeting overruns and then the lunchtime meeting overruns and it's 2:30 before I even get a sandwich. As seems to be happening now. It's past 12:30 and where the fuck is he?

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:33 (fourteen years ago)

At lunch, prob.

Rameses Street (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:44 (fourteen years ago)

anybody who views the Bell Curve as good for anything but emergency rolling papers = not worth your time

shining like national dog shit (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 12:23 (fourteen years ago)

what would yr work say if, in place of your lunch hour, you just took off an hour early? would - often did - give up the entire concept of a lunch hour to fuck off early

lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 12:33 (fourteen years ago)

I do that, or get in late and then take a short lunch to leave around the right time, but then I really get angry at myself because I need that 45 minute to hour break in the middle of the day to stay sane and actually be productive most of the time.

mh, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 13:51 (fourteen years ago)

That's not an option here, if you work through lunch you work through lunch, it doesn't affect leaving time.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 13:57 (fourteen years ago)

ambulances in the ambulance station outside my flat that park there with their engines running for like hours on end! literally!

ledge, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:06 (fourteen years ago)

We're expected to be available to clients throughout the working day, which means we can't come in late or leave early (except in exceptional circumstances, it's not a prison camp). I don't often give up my lunch hour, though.

Mark C, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:12 (fourteen years ago)

towns that burn forever

I love obscure members of the Athrotheiria mammal genus and... (Latham Green), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:20 (fourteen years ago)

FrogBS is the only fuckin dude on this thread who has made ANY sense.

traitorous venom, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 02:43 (fourteen years ago)

You can ignore the Bell Curve's results all you want, but they aren't racist. At all.

traitorous venom, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 02:44 (fourteen years ago)

ambulances in the ambulance station outside my flat that park there with their engines running for like hours on end! literally!

I think that's because ambulances are (usually) diesel, which is apparently not conducive to the kind of multiple daily starts a regular engine is (which is why you also see 18-wheelers running when parked at rest stops).

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 02:46 (fourteen years ago)

sock alert!

mh, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 02:47 (fourteen years ago)

why is this happening

horseshoe, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 06:04 (fourteen years ago)

sock alert!

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traitorous venom wrote this on thread Innocuous things that make you irrationally angry (a list thread) on board I Love Everything on Aug 17, 2011

FrogBS is the only fuckin dude on this thread who has made ANY sense.

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You can ignore the Bell Curve's results all you want, but they aren't racist. At all.

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weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

"well, it might not be politically correct, so i'll say it as a sock, but..."

Kerm, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 17:38 (fourteen years ago)

I get IA when I'm giving information over the phone and the person repeats it while I'm still talking, which means they miss the info I'm speaking while they are repeating. If I were giving them the first 100 digits of pi without a breath, that would be one thing, but I'm very conscientious about my phone manners. Just now I was giving a phone number, broken up logically: 123 pause 456 pause 7890 and before I the "2" out of my mouth, the lady is repeating "1," so she heard me say "122." And again for 456 and 7890. Fuck you, lady.

This happens pretty frequently.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 17:54 (fourteen years ago)

Justin Timberlake reciting Kriss Kross lyrics in some film trailer - or the sudden rememberance thereof, when having a good day.

jel --, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 17:58 (fourteen years ago)

My wife dragged me to that movie, but that scene is surprisingly hilarious.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

Oh dear, I'm sorry to hear that.

jel --, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 18:00 (fourteen years ago)

Justin Timberlake reciting Kriss Kross lyrics in some film trailer - or the sudden rememberance thereof, when having a good day.

not bulimic, just a cat (James Morrison), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 23:21 (fourteen years ago)

I've worked out what makes me really really irrationally angry:

JUGGLERS

I was trying to explain my outright hatred for people who juggle to my girlfriend the other day and all I could say is "I don't know - I know it's just a bit of fun, but whenever someone gets out juggling sacks I just want to throttle them". Unfortunately I live in a boho town full of white dreadlocked doozers, so I have to restrain myself a lot.

Why'd You Wanna Tweet Me So Bad? (dog latin), Thursday, 18 August 2011 15:23 (fourteen years ago)

What I especially don't like is when one friend, who's alright otherwise, starts juggling IN MY LIVING ROOM. If jugglers were any good they'd never drop their juggling balls EVER and just keep juggling until their arms fall off, but sadly this guy ISN'T that good and ends up dropping the fucking things everywhere, knocking stuff over etc. And then he goes to retrieve them and continues to juggle, even when I've told him to stop. I have tried chucking the things out the window and I'm met with all these spoil-sporty looks.

Why'd You Wanna Tweet Me So Bad? (dog latin), Thursday, 18 August 2011 15:26 (fourteen years ago)

hey thanks venom!

frogbs, Thursday, 18 August 2011 15:28 (fourteen years ago)

Ron Howard's voice. I find it utterly unbearable to the point that I've never seen an entire episode of Arrested Development. I know it's a great show, and would never argue otherwise, but whenever Ron's voiceover comes on, it might as well be, I dunno, an Eagles song. I just want to turn it off as quickly and angrily as possible.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 18 August 2011 16:06 (fourteen years ago)

just sounds like any male American voice to me, if a bit nasal.

Why'd You Wanna Tweet Me So Bad? (dog latin), Thursday, 18 August 2011 16:08 (fourteen years ago)

I don't like the way he says "it's Arrested Development" though.

Why'd You Wanna Tweet Me So Bad? (dog latin), Thursday, 18 August 2011 16:08 (fourteen years ago)

This one's for you guys:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnLN4OKoPzs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LStRxwN7hI (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 18 August 2011 16:11 (fourteen years ago)

when did that first happen

Goth Cruise to Lynch Land (Latham Green), Thursday, 18 August 2011 16:12 (fourteen years ago)

Judging from the architecture, I'd say late 50s/early 60s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LStRxwN7hI (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 18 August 2011 16:13 (fourteen years ago)

I must have stopped watching before Richie turned nasty - I don't remember any of that.

^^^ this (onimo), Thursday, 18 August 2011 16:16 (fourteen years ago)

Happy Days is now tainted forever.

^^^ this (onimo), Thursday, 18 August 2011 16:17 (fourteen years ago)

That one tissue which is inevitably in every batch of laundry and gets white fluff stuck all over your best black clothes, even though you think you check every pocket before washing, or even though you're only washing items which don't have any pockets.

the ascent of nyan (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 18 August 2011 17:18 (fourteen years ago)

re: Happy Days

Judging by the hairstyles, early 1980s.
Judging by the baseball jersey, 1970s.
Judging by the intergenerational hostility, late 1960s.

Josefa, Thursday, 18 August 2011 17:24 (fourteen years ago)

which war was he back from?

koogs, Thursday, 18 August 2011 18:05 (fourteen years ago)

Season 11, Episode 233 - October 25, 1983 - "Welcome Home" (Part 1) - Richie and Ralph return, and Richie is diagnosed with PTSD after growing a mustache while stationed in Greenland.

Kerm, Thursday, 18 August 2011 18:10 (fourteen years ago)

Holy shit!!

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Thursday, 18 August 2011 18:37 (fourteen years ago)

I used to watch Happy Days every day after school, for years, but I never saw anything like that.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Thursday, 18 August 2011 18:38 (fourteen years ago)

I got a little verklempt for a second.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Thursday, 18 August 2011 18:38 (fourteen years ago)

I must have stopped watching before Richie turned nasty - I don't remember any of that.

― ^^^ this (onimo), Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:16 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

this is nothing. you should have seen when Opie lost it.

Serial Chiller (sunny successor), Thursday, 18 August 2011 22:10 (fourteen years ago)

didn't realize mustache-growing could lead to PTSD

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 18 August 2011 23:44 (fourteen years ago)

or the episode where the Fonz dropped acid, then woke up with his dick in Chachi's mouth

shining like national dog shit (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 August 2011 23:45 (fourteen years ago)

HEYYYY!

^^^ this (onimo), Friday, 19 August 2011 10:24 (fourteen years ago)

Talking objects in commercials make me irrationally angry. Talking plates and mugs in dish washers, talking dust in cleaning commercials, talking telly's, talking cars, talking toilets, talking bathroom walls, talking vacuum cleaners... argh. They all get this "funny" quirky voice, they giggle, the cry, talk stupid. Ffffuuuuuuuuuuu

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 19 August 2011 10:29 (fourteen years ago)

That reminds me of this, which I took a photo of out of feminist RAEG:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/185956_499747702756_726857756_6565964_1170884_n.jpg

Rameses Street (Trayce), Friday, 19 August 2011 10:41 (fourteen years ago)


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