David Fincher -- c/d?

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tyler has break eggs to make an omelet attitude most of the time, but then takes care to make sure no one is in those buildings

Most of the US radical '60s folks w/ bombs, like the Weathermen, claim they tried to take similar precautions.

I'm amazed you guys have avoided the SEXUAL politics of Fight Club, as "I don't think another woman is what we need" is an oft-quoted line. A chief sociopolitical theme, perhaps moreso than anticorporatism, is probably "masculinity issues," in a Susan Faludi Backlash kinda way. And that the novel was written by a gay man and employs blatantly homoerotic imagery and language (Tyler has a gun in N's mouth for pretty much the whole book; Tyler is naked when N first meets him) complements this.

megalolz at most of this thread, A++++ would laff at again

eh I went into the film's mysogyny/homoeroticism on some other thread. had no idea Palahniuk was gay though.

Marla is much fuller than in the book thx to HBC and the script.

btw Morbz didja know there are no sexual politics its all just a bunch of pretty pictures of half-naked, sweaty guys deal with it

im sad this thread does not contain more talk about zodiac.

why does he bother having gay characters, it's not like they're gonna turn anybody gay

there's a thread for Zodiac - its long and I ramble a bit

oh yeah. i think i was rambling on it too!

had no idea Palahniuk was gay though.

a total queen. My buddy writing his thesis on his work took a picture of him and Palahniuk in feather boas (my buddy's straight).

o_0+2-2=0_o

who could have imagined that an author whose themes often concern themselves with masculinity might be gay?

well I can't say I'm surprised (based on my viewing of FC), but I'm not in the habit of investigating the sexual proclivities of authors I don't read

I've seen him read, he's a pretty rugged queen.

also, his guidebook to Portland OR is nice.

jfc

deeznuts the problem you ran into on this thread is that your argument ultimately leads to less thinking, writing and connection-making about how movies relate to their audience and to the world; as thinkers, writers and connection-makers the people on this thread took it personally!

And I think it's likely that you took people's harshness about FC - and specifically its arguably juvenile take on politics and insurrection - personally.

Anyway I agree with Michael White on this thread. Fincher has this knack for taking an interesting or shocking premise and somehow not quite making it pay off. Panic Room could have been incredible. The Game is just the kind of scam-within-a-scam-within-a-scam movie that I eat up. But they both just sort of sucked. And - this is just a personal dislike - I really can't stand the look of his movies. They ALL look like the "Express Yourself" video except when they're trying really hard not to (like with Zodiac).

dude Zodiac looks amazing

I really don't get the Zodiac love. It looked good, in the way that car commercials look good. Acting was okey. Mildly gripping procedural snooze-thrillz. Nicely ambigious ending. Nothing to hate, but not much to care about one way or the other.

i honestly didnt realize how great it was until my third viewing or so. granted, you have to WANT to see it that many times...

I loved "Panic Room".

His cinematography really is predictable in a way; the logical outcome of a certain slick 80's video/commercial style that carried over to film. Unfortunately, it's pretty much all he does.

fc was pretty influential w/ its 'look'

So was that Paula Abdul video.

"Opposites Attract"?

"The Promise of a New Day"

which, somehow, was my boys Catholic school's graduation theme.

ok waht

hooray $10 copy of Zodiac for me!

ok waht

yes I know, and I was the only closet fag in my class.

haha are you sure about that?

he checked at the reunion.

The Game is coming out as a Criterion release! Do I really need to see it again? bcz this revisionist take seems highly dubious to me:

http://www.salon.com/2012/09/17/the_game_david_finchers_lost_classic/

It's entertaining but it's not that great.

it's central gimmick gets a bit tiresome

It's not so much a Fincher movie as it is a Michael Douglas yuppie-crisis film.

one of my favorites movies ever

ok, I didn't think so

The mike D'Angelo take in the onion inspired me to watch it again recently. It falls apart under the weight of its concept, but it has a lot going for it.

Fincher is one of those technical geniuses,.like Kubrick and Anderson, who sometimes seems to make whole films for the sake of r&d. Like panic room.

Panic Room > The Game

Panic room is beyond solid. Grown up home alone ftw. Dwight yoakam is totally evil.

The mike D'Angelo take in the onion inspired me to watch it again recently. It falls apart under the weight of its concept, but it has a lot going for it.

for real. Zodiac's still the best thing he did but this one has a lot to recommend it, and it doesn't really have the self-seriousness that makes Panic Room (and Seven for that matter) such slogs

Josh, which Anderson do you mean?

Paul Thomas. I like all his movies, but sometimes it feels like he's working something out to get to the next something. "Punch Drunk Love" perhaps being the most glaring case in point.

people on here were always really hard on panic room for some reason. i enjoy it a lot

Zodiac's still the best thing he did

correct answer

never saw panic room, somehow i always lumped it in with that run of BRING ME BACK MY DAUGHTER movies

- even tho obv. her daughter is right there because they are locked in the PANIC ROOM

Panic Room is a tight little thriller, probably the most compact thing Fincher has ever done. Gets about its business quickly, doesn't fart around, good performances, ends when it needs to. And if you don't like Jared Leto, you'll love it.