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Golly, yes: Des on HIGN? (again) = so good I watched it one and a half times. It would have been twice, but I didn't know it was on again, in time.

I am sorry that you wasted your time on Liverpool wins, Mike: that does sound unfortunate.

― the bluefox, Monday, 15 November 2004 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I am disappointed that Des was so funny on Have I Got News For You, as I forgot to video it on Friday and we up here don't get the repeat, getting Artworks Scotland instead, which was presumably less funny. Never mind, one day I will see an untopical repeat on UKGold and giggle nonetheless.

Can't you multi-task, Mike? I was sadly googling Liverpool scores and watching MOTD2 at the same time.

I have said elsewhere that I would like Strachan to be the Scotland manager just for the press conferences. He is the reason I watch MOTD2 (that, and being too much of a cheapskate to get Sky Sports)

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 15 November 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Can't you multi-task, Mike? I was sadly googling Liverpool scores and watching MOTD2 at the same time.

There's a wall in the way. Or ten feet of hallway and a right-angled turn if we're talking about the telly in the bedroom.

I should make clear that only my choice of subject matter was appalling, not my partners in banter.

I missed HIGNFY entirely. We may have been skirting Tarporley on the A54 at the time, or eating curry at Moreton Cross.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 15 November 2004 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

You should be thankful even for Chiles. If you lived up here and wanted to watch our Premier League, you would have to watch the godawful triumvirate of Jim Delahunt (any rhyming slang possibilities purely and joyfully coincidental), Sarah O (who knows nothing at all about reading an autocue, let alone anything about football), and Cameron Stout's wee brother. Showing SPL highlights. ON A MONDAY! You know, two whole days after most of the matches have been on, then focussing on the one that was live on Setanta the day before anyway.

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 15 November 2004 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

(also, you have to watch Scottish football)

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 15 November 2004 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I made a videotape of Saturday's MOTD and I haven't watched it yet, so when I do, it will be even later. I had originally intended to watch it when MOTD2 was on. I'm glad I didn't now.

Do you like it when the camera doodlebugs the stadiums before matches?

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 10:07 (twenty-one years ago)

that's possibly my favourite bit

― Porkpie (porkpie), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 11:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Would Steady Mike take over John Peel's show, do you think?

― Ol' prune face (Mark C), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 11:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you like it when the camera doodlebugs the stadiums before matches?

Do you mean in a drifting blimp stylee or the crash-zoom from space? I like 'em both. There's a touch of ITV about the latter but, being the Beeb, I'm sure those aerial maps are meticulously researched.

(Mark C: the last LP I bought was the first Bee Gees album on cassette for 35p so we could listen to New York Mining Disaster 1941 in the car. So, no.)

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 11:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Have you seen my wife, Mr Jones?

― RickyT (RickyT), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean when the camera drops out of the sky like a mighty thunderbolt of football. I'm glad you're here, Michael, because I believe Liverpool and Everton's grounds are only separated by a park. Yet I can never see the other one when the doodlebug is in action. I suppose it is a smart bomb. You would think, at that speed, it could easily get them muddled up.

Porkpie, do you listen to 'Duelling Banjos' to get you in the mood before fishing trips?

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I liked it on Football Focus when they did a feature on Everton's surprising form this season, beginning with the camera on Anfield then walking with it to Goodison, speeding up this footage for the viewer's delight

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the camera zooming in to the grounds is fantastic, a tremendous legacy of Euro 2004. And yes, I'm sure the research is impeccable.

I think Mike has been playing 'New York Mining Disaster 1941' at the wrong speed. 70mph in a built-up residential area.

― the bellefox, Tuesday, 16 November 2004 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Switch the television on, it's 'Farewell My Lovely'.

What I really can't understand - when sometimes the person talking is in normal speed, the people walking past their elbow and gurning at the camera are speeded up! This is unnatural.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Garth Crooks has eerie powers.

I hope I don't spoil your taped MOTD PJ by revealing that it did not feature either Lineker nor Hansen. Lineker's replacement was bespectacled (very unusual these days) but competent and animated. he should probably be doing MOTD2 rather than Chiles.

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 13:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah, Mark Pougatch is moving up in the world, then?

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

What sort of name is "Pougatch"? Sounds vaguely Red Indian or Inuit to me.

― Ol' Dirty Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)

it's the new Japanese cyberpet

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Gary and Alan baulked at being on so late and so exercised the clause in their contract that says they have to be in the BBC bar telling rude stories by 12:30 otherwise they miss the lock-in.

Pougatch has Ukranian roots - his autobiography would be called He Came From The Ukraine on A Donkey, because that's what his grandad did. Perhaps he should concentrate on writing a biography of his grandad first.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm loking forward to it now. Is it Christopher Biggins?

Farewell My Lovely isn't very good, five stars or not. It's just a load of people acting. All the good stuff is Chandlerisms, which can be better enjoyed by READING.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

ah i wondered why MOTD was on so late actually - i was glad it was

i was bemused and impressed by Pougatch - you could sense he was going for it, taking the opportunity with all the relish a man can muster, which as we all know can often be a lot.

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Anfield and Goodison are indeed within gobbing distance of each other (we don't want to have to go too far in case we ever want the old place back). My Mum was telling me at the weekend of her fear of cemeteries and how this often meant a long walk from her parental home in Abingdon Road to Goodison on matchdays, avoiding Anfield Cemetery (adjacent to Stanley Park), and annoying her fiance (the auld fella).

I've never been to Anfield, though. I did once pass it in a taxi - hair turned white, fingernails fell out, went blind, etc.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't know you were from a Toffeemen dynasty.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i've only been to six league club grounds (Loftus, Stamford, Highbury, WHL, Old Trafford*, Vicarage Rd).

*to see an international match, so perhaps it doesn't count

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I mentioned to The Pinefox that I had come across an interview with Matt Smith, who I see far too little of these days. Here it is: http://sport.guardian.co.uk/smalltalk/story/0,13852,1338058,00.html

Unhappily, he likes Snow Patrol.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

That's a shame, I was convinced he'd be huge on Jandek

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, yes. At least back to the grandparents. There are a few who have strayed over to the Reds - Aunt Monica, my cousin Pete, perhaps a few minor relatives-by-marriage.

JtN: I see your Matt Smith and I raise you Gabriel Clarke.

I hope HIGNFY have the good sense to employ Elton Welsby as a guest host next series.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh blimey, league grounds? I've only been to Plough Lane, Griffin Park, Loftus Road, Stamford Bridge & Selhurst Park. That's parochial and crap.

― Ol' prune face (Mark C), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Let's see: I've been to St James's Park (Exeter), the Valley, Victoria Ground, Burnden Park, Deepdale, Highbury, Selhurst Park, Goodison, Prenton Park, Wembley...and perhaps a couple I've forgotten.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

What about grounds that don't exist anymore? I've been to the Baseball Ground. To see a team that don't exist anymore - Tulsa Roughnecks.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

hopkins is beating me by about ten grounds but I don't think I'll catch up :o(

― Porkpie (porkpie), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Burnden Park and Wembley (still, just about) fall into that category. I've probably been wherever New Brighton used to play their league matches without knowing it.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

grounds no longer used = Roker, Ayresome park, Shea (or was it shay?), wembley, I never went to Burnden though from what I remember.

― Porkpie (porkpie), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

League grounds I've been to:

Portman Road (of course), Withdean 'Stadium', Molineux, Loftus Road, White Hart Lane, Highbury, Selhurst Park, Upton Park and Chelsea's shithole (worst ground ever! - for away fans at least)

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

i sat on a wooden bench when i went to Stamford - ten years ago

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw the last ever match at the old Wembley, on TV, in a pub, with Steady Mike, at London Bridge I think, on a miserable sort of rainy day, in September 2000. The least miserable thing about it, of course, was being with Steady Mike.

Welsby: oh, yes.

JtN: thanks: must read that. Was Morley the interviewer?

― the bellefox, Tuesday, 16 November 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Morley was on some Radio 1 thing last night. Didn't bother watching.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

'Watching'.

Was it about Matt Smith?

― the bluefox, Tuesday, 16 November 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

the zooming in on the grounds annoys me because when it gets close it becomes obvious that it's a con done using a 2d image

my main problem is that the sunday repeat is on too early

― koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Grounds I've been to (not many): Bristol Rovers, Torquay, Swindon, Millwall, Brentford, Orient, Wembley. I think that's all.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

A television documentary about Radio 1, sorry.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

English League grounds I have been to: none

Scottish ones: Celtic Park, Ibrox, Hampden, Pittodrie, Tannadice, Dens Park, Easter Road, Tynecastle, McDiarmid Park, Muirton Park (former St Johnstone ground), Broadwood, East End Park, Fir Park, Love Street, Firhill, Station Park (Forfar), New Kilbowie, Victoria Park (Ross County), Borough Briggs (Elgin City) and various Highland League (i.e. non-league so don't count) grounds.

Only other stadium I have watched a match in: Olympic Stadium, Seville.

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

This subjects worthy of a thread Which football grounds have you been to?

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Try again Which football grounds have you been to?

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

koogs, i thought you didn't like football?

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 10:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I watched some of Saturday's MOTD last night. I found Spurs v Arsenal confusing - too many goals, court composer! The bespectacled fella, who I've never seen before, seemed quite good, possibly better than Gary L. He reminded me of Graham Coxon. It must be very upsetting if you're a goalkeeper and Schmichael criticises you like that. On the other hand, it could be quite useful, taken in the right spirit.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)

mr hivemind. i'd rather actively ignore it than just be asleep when it's on 8)

it's just good to be able to keep up with these conversations and the ones in the office. and occasionally something interesting will happen (the handball that resulted in everton's penalty this weekend for instance)

― koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 12:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Top comedy ahead of tonight's MOTD Live:

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,1563,1352950,00.html

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

"I know who are the racists. I remember the colonies. I have a lot of black friends and I have fed black people at my table, in my house. I bought TWO copies of 'Hey Ya'!"

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Last night's debacle was clearly so depressing no one could rouse themselves (or even Rous themselves) to re-energise this thread.

I was torn between wanting to see England's ineptitude get buried under an avalanche of second-half Spanish goals or see Ashley Cole or SWP dance through the home defence and nab an equaliser to silence the racist clowns. Of course, neither of these things was ever likely to happen.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 18 November 2004 11:13 (twenty-one years ago)

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