Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

Nimoy had quite a rocky relationship w/ Roddenberry, it seems.

for best non-Kirk Shat role, I'd have to take Corman's The Intruder over Twilight Zone. (never saw Boston Legal... or The Brothers Karamazov!)

shatner is supposed to have pushed for rewrites to keep the secondary parts small, no? uhura in particular (big surprise i guess) gets a line like once every four episodes.

harlan ellison published his original version of 'the city on the edge of forever' which i picked up a while ago, mostly for the 100+ page preface wherein ellison recounts every beef he had with just about everyone involved with star trek; i've only skim read it for now but came across an episode where supposedly shatner went to see ellison ostensibly for social reasons but really to check out the script and count the number of his lines vs those of nimoy

george takei was pretty scathing about shatner in his book, too.

Yeah I read one of Shatner, Roddenberry, or Takei as a kid. Highly suspect it was Takei because my parents were more prone to buying me books written by non-whites. (I have some great jazz bios we could do on ilm.) I really, really strongly remember reading a book that talked shit about Shatner. Also it could have been Shatner's own book and maybe my interpretive skills were stronger as akid than I thought.

Well yeah, I think just about EVERYONE except nimoy hated shatner. Guy seems insane!

Damn, I don't think I was ready to see all the white in Avery Brooks's goatee. :(

The Sisco ages.

just laughed hard at the end of "the return of the archons", when kirk talks a civilization-controlling computer into self-destructing

Also it could have been Shatner's own book and maybe my interpretive skills were stronger as akid than I thought.

Shatner's two Trek autobios are largely comprised of his ghostwriter interviewing the other actors at length about what a dick Shatner was, and then interviewing Shatner reacting in ruminative surprise at their resentments

Whenever there's a website login checkbox for "Remember Me", I mentally hear/say Spock's "Remember" from The Wrath of Khan.

Avery Brooks, styling it up at conventions:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/AveryBrooksAtConvention_crop.jpg/524px-AveryBrooksAtConvention_crop.jpg

If they ever want to make another Blade movie where Blade's dad shows up (like Connery/Ford in Last Crusade), then they know who to call.

If any of you enjoy Star Trek novels, I highly recommend the Destiny Trilogy.

Two seasons of Star Trek all at once:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS8OGMbj1kg

Amazing how many of those are close ups on someone going "whuh?"

this is like some acid flashback shit

In the future we will watch every television show this way.

/banaka

whoa

(gonna treat it as a bingo card drinking game - take a shot if I get a full row/column of the crew all beaming up/down / being shaken out of their seats / Shatner being shirtless)

It's awesome at the end when the theme tune kicks in, just slightly out of sync, 56 times simultaneously.

At about 2:35, in the bottom row, you see the Enterprise pass seamlessly from one pane to another!

this is amazing

the end credits part, specifically.

also dug the pre-end credits bit where you can watch 56 corny jokes being made at once.

like when Joan Collins' death destroys Captain Kirk?

hah, that was actually the only example of a trek episode ending with something other than a corny joke that I could think of but I'm sure there are others

"let's get the hell out of here"

"forget.... forget..."

I got 3 of the photobook graphic novel things when they were around. I assume that mint copies would be worth something these days. anybody know?
Though these have sat on a shelf for about 30 years so are probably a bit yellowed

& maybe they were very heavily mass produced, just seen the prices Amazon has for them

the gold key ones? i think the guide to use is overstreet in terms of what you can expect to pay for one, but i'm not sure it will reflect how much you can get for it.

Fucking hell, I watched about ten minutes of the 56 episode Star Trek blipvert at full screen and I feel like I inherited Roky Erickson's brain.

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So Leonard Nimoy posted this to his FB last night:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/601232_433501863336665_925751118_n.jpg

TOS is pretty damn classic. The others may be good but the 60's one is just so stylish and cool and fun.

I flipped out over TOS a few years ago after HATING it as a child. I've watched every episode and still tune in every Saturday night to watch the reruns on METV (it's Memorable Entertainment Television!). I've just started season one of TNG (which I also HATED as a child) and I am loving it, too. The first season is extremely faithful to the memory of TOS, i think. I know that it will eventually become less so, though.

Oh and that picture of Spock and Kirk is something else.

Jeff and I are making our way through TOS and it is challenging. It's just so damn sexist. But as a TNG/DS9/VOY superfan, I feel compelled to make sure I've seen all the originals, too.

Always found the sense of camaraderie in TOS rather touching. Never got madly into anything after. I'll happily watch an episode of Next Gen, but I don't love it. Sorry to get snobby, but without the original iconic characters I'd rather read a good Space Opera novel.

Next Gen = office in space

it's okay and there are some very good episodes but the design/characters/pacing are all less engaging than TOS imho

Oh and that picture of Spock and Kirk is something else.

Putting this here in case someone hasn't seen it:

TNG Season 8
@TNG_S8
Plots from the unaired 8th season of Star Trek: The Next Generation
http://twitter.com/#!/TNG_S8

Always found the sense of camaraderie in TOS rather touching. Never got madly into anything after. I'll happily watch an episode of Next Gen, but I don't love it. Sorry to get snobby, but without the original iconic characters I'd rather read a good Space Opera novel.

― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, June 18, 2012 8:19 PM (1 hour ago

back in the '70s david gerrold (who wrote the original 'tribbles' episode wrote something about all the things wrong -- logically, dramatically, and otherwise -- with the original series. all the way from things like 'too many episodes that end with fistfights' to 'the captain shouldn't be beaming down with the away team.' they 'fixed' all those things in TNG, which explains all those episodes where basically nothing happens and picard solves everything in the last 30 seconds by glaring indignantly at a screen.

Sometimes I don't even think we are watching the same series.

picard solves everything in the last 30 seconds by glaring indignantly at a screen.

Yes, this is awesome.

It's how I solve most of MY life's problems.

that foto is shit hot

According to that Dave Gerrold book, every episode is awful except the one that he wrote

It's how I solve most of MY life's problems.

Have Picard glare indignantly at them? Because I would pay for that problem solving service.