UK Watercooler 32: Fall Into The Meaning Gap

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Right eyes, right hair, wrong nose. And JH is all about the nose.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 12:03 (eighteen years ago)

The hott boy from Youthmovies has the same nose. I think that explains the hottness.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 12:04 (eighteen years ago)

You can see the nose here. It is very pointy:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2313/2106775508_7299ded05a.jpg

I wish I enjoyed their single as much as I enjoyed their live show.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 12:07 (eighteen years ago)

In 20 minutes I will go and get some curry and that will be the high point of my day. And the dilemma of my day will be whether to get a mint crumble bar as well. And then I will spend the rest of the day wondering if my boss will ever come up with anything to do, and then I will go home, exhausted from doing nothing, read until I fall asleep and wake up to do it all over again. Unless I'm lucky and a satellite falls from the sky to crush me.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 12:11 (eighteen years ago)

Yum. Lunch was delicious.

However, remind me never, ever to read 1) Drowned in Sound or 2) any interview with Anton BJM ever again. Sheesh. That's 10 minutes of my life I'd rather have spent staring at the screen pretending to work.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 13:02 (eighteen years ago)

pash, are you around? are you the person who said Journey's "Stone in Love" is the best song ever? it IS!

mitya, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

I wasn't! (sorry) I'd put my money on either Dave Q or Scott S for that one. But, great anyway! I think I may have been repping for "Carry on Wayward Son" at some point fairly recently...

Pashmina, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

Today in Glasgow I saw some of these in the window of a music shop next to the record shop I go to
http://www.musicroom.com/images/catalogue/productpage/STE2018PK.jpg
Flying V Ukelele

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.forsyths.co.uk/ukuleles.htm
scroll down to the bottom

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

The ones in the shop in Glasgow were £25

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 15:09 (eighteen years ago)

Some dude on ebay occasionally sells an electric bouzouki with a pointy black-metal-style body and headstock.

I generally like oddball little stringed instruments, but ukes I draw the line at.

Pashmina, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

I can imagine Ed with one.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3212/2343501338_6f591f62de.jpg?v=0

Recent gear shot

Dr.C, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3226/2342668841_8dc4899412.jpg?v=0

With Miss Sylvia, my roadie.

Dr.C, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

It wouldnt be ilx without a cat!

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 15:38 (eighteen years ago)

That's what I thought :)

Dr.C, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

You should watch that film, Kate, despite the rampant-making possibilities. It's a good film (although apparently in real life Mr H's character never met the film's subject).

I will take TTEOTE on holiday with me at the weekend.

Forest Pines Mk2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

Is it out on video? Is it worth actually buying?

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

i.e. is there lots of shots of JH wandering around looking hott and tweedy, as opposed to lots of pics wandering around in bondage gear? (Which really doesn't do that much for me.)

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

BETTY PAGE in bondage gear does little for me. If it were JH is bondage gear, natch, I would probably explode.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 16:19 (eighteen years ago)

It's on DVD - I bought it for my gf for Christmas, and it was under a tenner. There's not really much "bondage gear", but equally not *that* much JH.

Forest Pines Mk2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

Mrs. Dr. C just came in and said 'what the heck are you listening to!', then fled.

What am I listening to? (Clue: Think Tom D)

Dr.C, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 16:34 (eighteen years ago)

Deacon Blue?

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 16:40 (eighteen years ago)

Haha. No!

Dr.C, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 16:40 (eighteen years ago)

I don't do ukes, and I prefer my horns in the other direction

http://www.fatdawg.com/mandocellobig.jpg

Ed, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 19:28 (eighteen years ago)

Another day, another terminal expanse of existential boredom...

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 09:26 (eighteen years ago)

Morning!

Still clouds over the office, but it looks like the shape of said clouds is going to be made clear.

Forest Pines Mk2, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 09:28 (eighteen years ago)

Hope that there are some nice parachute-shaped clouds, or, err, something.

What do you do when you wake up one morning and realise that you are, actually, a bad person?

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 09:33 (eighteen years ago)

(Sorry, those two statements are totally unlinked, did not mean to imply that they were by putting them in the same post.)

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 09:33 (eighteen years ago)

I do feel for you Kate, I remember one place didn't have t'int, so I spent a good couple days reading this: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51s7h3l3KLL._AA240_.jpg

Mark G, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 09:34 (eighteen years ago)

I wonder what people would do if I took out my book and started reading it?

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 09:36 (eighteen years ago)

Well, I half expected people to come up and go "YOU GOT NOTHIN ELSE TO DO THEN?", actually people sympathised. Nice people, great place to work locationwise and peoplewise, just no sense of urgency.

Mark G, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 09:41 (eighteen years ago)

These things were sent to try us...

Maybe this is some kind of test, sent to teach me Patience. Except I don't believe in that sort of thing.

I suppose, this morning while lying half awake and half asleep, I set myself a kind of impossible task to keep myself occupied. It probably won't turn out to be that impossible, but it will at least keep me occupied for... a while?

I should answer my mail on OKC, too, I suppose. I'm still just flabbergasted that I've got any at all. I kind of don't want to blow it by actually speaking to them when they're clearly deluded into thinking I'm attractive in some way, shape or form.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 09:44 (eighteen years ago)

If you have discovered that you are a Bad Person, should you accept it, try to change it, or revel in it?

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 09:55 (eighteen years ago)

As I say, you always feel like with all that 'down' time, you could write songs surrepticiously, but doing it at work just feels wrong, like ringing people while on the bog or something.

Mark G, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 09:57 (eighteen years ago)

People expect too much of you, and you feel like a bad person because you cannot live up to everyones expectations and they blame you for it.

They forget all the things you did for them, and remember that one time you couldn't.

Mark G, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 09:58 (eighteen years ago)

x-post Try to change it, if it's really true.

I ought to read that Perrett book - how recent is it? What became of their comeback last year?

Dr.C, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 10:01 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, the bad person isn't on account of work stuff (though another rejection letter yesterday isn't helping matters).

It's personal life stuff, grudge-holding, jealousy, envy, etc.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 10:03 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, that's what I assumed.

Mark G, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 10:14 (eighteen years ago)

These do not necessarily define you as a bad person, Kate. Everyone feels these things - the problem is when they make you behave in ways that upsets either you or other people, or get in the way of your happiness. Not always easy, I know.

Dr.C, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 10:16 (eighteen years ago)

I always believe that actions speak louder than words. So I will put this in another way. I think I am behaving in ways that are causing upset, to me, and I think other persons.

I don't know, it's hard to describe without getting into specifics.

I'm having a problem with another person. We have attempted to talk it out, and that has failed. I don't dislike this person, but we just don't get on, and this is causing friction in a larger group. My reaction to this, based on past experience, is to withdraw. This other person seems to be continually trying to re-establish contact. I don't want to go there; this kind of behaviour flags personal "argh, stalker" bells, again, based on previous experience.

The problem is how to disengage. I think I have lost the larger group, partly due to this, partly due to changing/shifting group dynamics and mine own interests. The jealousy/envy is due to this other person managing to maintain their position in the larger group, while I either cannot or will not.

I want to handle this better than I have in past similar situations. But I fear that I am not going to be able to. Hence, I am a bad person.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 10:31 (eighteen years ago)

n.b. none of this has anything to do with anyone on ILX.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 10:32 (eighteen years ago)

That doesn't mean you're being a bad person in the commonly-used "malicious" sense of the term, though.

Forest Pines Mk2, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 10:35 (eighteen years ago)

killfile email, block telephone #?

Pashmina, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 10:38 (eighteen years ago)

That would be an overreaction. I tried unfriending this person on MySpace, and they freaked out and sent me this message going all "why did you unfriend me?" and another friend request, and I felt guilty and accepted it. But then felt blackmailed into doing it. And then felt bad about feeling blackmailed.

I'm a bad person because I can't do groups. :-(

I don't know what it is that I'm worried about. What the other people in the larger group think? Why they respond to this person in a way that they have never responded to me? Because this person makes all the right noises and goes through the motions about being a good and friendly group member? Clearly there is something wrong with me, that I am having a problem when no one else is.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 10:43 (eighteen years ago)

And now I have accomplished my difficult thing that I set myself to do today, and have nothing to do for the rest of the day.

And no boss to talk to about what needs to be done next.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 10:44 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, none of this is 'bad person' stuff, just because you are finding this rather tricky situation difficult to handle. It sounds like you have to decide whether you want to reestablish yourself in the larger group enough to want to confront this person about the situation - which I think you'll have to do, as it sounds like ignoring/tolerating wouldn't work. It depends what they want from you, and they clearly want something - hence trying to engage with you repeatedly.

Alternatively - is there someone in the larger group that you can confide in?

Dr.C, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 10:44 (eighteen years ago)

Ooh, apparently our MD is going to make An Announcement About Something later today...

Forest Pines Mk2, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 10:47 (eighteen years ago)

(we all know the gist of what he's going to say, but we don't really know what the implications are going to be)

Forest Pines Mk2, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 10:55 (eighteen years ago)

I don't actually even know if I want to continue in the larger group. But there is really no way to tell, because the friction is making it difficult.

The person in the larger group, who *was* my confidant... well, that's a difficult situation, as well. We were friends, now I'm not so sure. Again, actions speak louder than words - confidant was all "oh, we're still friends" but never manages to return my emails, either due to busy-ness or their own personal life or (paranoia) they are no longer as close to me as they once were. And there is past personal friction between former confidant and the person with whom I am having the problems - but my former confidant's tack was to go out of their way to be overly nice to the person they were having the problems with. Which only makes me feel more slighted and jealous/envious.

I can't even talk about this on my blog - this person reads it, and emails to complain.

I don't know what they want. They claim to want to be my friend, but doesn't behave in ways that I consider friendlike.

It's just awful, and the way of things is that I am going to end up losing the whole group. Which is a shame, but I don't really see another way to deal with this. I can only hope that it will all blow over.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 10:56 (eighteen years ago)


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