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I really don't get what fever thought was off. I thought is was f'in great.

kenan, Friday, 2 March 2007 03:55 (nineteen years ago)

We should take a carriage ride around the financial district

mizzell, Friday, 2 March 2007 04:22 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe it's because so few regulars were on this week. Liz, Jack, Kenneth and Tracy... that's it (oh, and Jenna for three seconds).

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 March 2007 04:32 (nineteen years ago)

the episode didn't gel as well as some others, but had some of the funniest stuff...the whole Nickolodeon bit killed me, the little kid saying "sorry, I'm drunk".

dan selzer, Friday, 2 March 2007 04:34 (nineteen years ago)

There was absolutely no resolution, which I found a bit jarring considering the previous episodes. Still funny, though.

Gukbe, Friday, 2 March 2007 04:54 (nineteen years ago)

The Ron Mexico joke was golden.

sous les paves, Friday, 2 March 2007 06:08 (nineteen years ago)

Wasn't it Juan Mexico?

"...the urine of Satan after a heavy serving of asparagus."

nickn, Friday, 2 March 2007 06:14 (nineteen years ago)

It's a reference to Michael Vick's fake name he used when he gave someone herpes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Vick#Ron_Mexico_controversy

sous les paves, Friday, 2 March 2007 06:25 (nineteen years ago)

Watching it again (thanks torrents!), it's funnier. Still awkward, but funnier.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 March 2007 06:41 (nineteen years ago)

There was absolutely no resolution, which I found a bit jarring considering the previous episodes.


Some of the best episodes haven't had any resolution whatsoever, though - the one where Liz has to kick Jack out of the writers room for example

HPSCHD, Friday, 2 March 2007 10:55 (nineteen years ago)

Even Alec Baldwin was off tonight.

I don't know, I liked the line about Murphys being nothing but mud farmers and sheep rapists. Also the whole date between Lemon and Stephen was fantastic. He doesn't own a telly but does Vietnam war re-enactments and takes pictures of interesting doors. Genius.

accentmonkey, Friday, 2 March 2007 11:01 (nineteen years ago)

Also, the manatee has become the mentor.

I love this programme so much.

accentmonkey, Friday, 2 March 2007 11:05 (nineteen years ago)

yeah that ending was particularly cliffhangerish. it felt like there was still 10 mins of episode to go. it was almost a seinfeld sort of ending! i mean with the shooting and all, it could totally have faded to that stupid bass-lick interstatial theme.

s.clover, Friday, 2 March 2007 11:05 (nineteen years ago)

also, i thought it was actually "the manatee has become the mentos"

and the "Donagy sort of rhymes with party" thing!

s.clover, Friday, 2 March 2007 11:07 (nineteen years ago)

I agree with the consensus (funny, but a step back from the giddy heights of hilarity attained in recent weeks)

I wish I could remember what Tracy said in the Oprah-voice that had me cracking up

bernard snowy, Friday, 2 March 2007 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

also, i thought it was actually "the manatee has become the mentos"

Even better.

accentmonkey, Friday, 2 March 2007 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

'remember, you told me to live every week like its shark week, and that nothing's impossible except dinosaurs!

and what, Friday, 2 March 2007 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

also tina fey's zing about tracy's lazy oprah impression

and what, Friday, 2 March 2007 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

'young jeezy' 'i called his pitbull a gaywad on 106 & park!!'

and what, Friday, 2 March 2007 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

'people always get shot at the source awards! its a tradition, like christmas, or getting shot outside hot 97'

and what, Friday, 2 March 2007 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

the race stuff was pretty hilarious.
like jack talking about the Blacks and how Condi wold yell at the screen when they went to the movies.

mizzell, Friday, 2 March 2007 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

ron mexico lolololololololololol

jh0shea, Friday, 2 March 2007 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

'hes a black.' 'what!' 'his last name is black, they're a family. great athletes, very musical, not so great at swimming though..'

and what, Friday, 2 March 2007 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

"I blog about Star Wars on the internet"
"I was Princess Leia for four years in a row on Halloween!"
"Not the Star Wars with all the monsters. Star Wars, the Strategic Defense Initiative"

brownie, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

this mess is gonna get raw like sushi so hatas to the left.

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

'i don't have a tv'

'really?! what do you sit and look at?'

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

what kind of plane do you want? clear... like wonder womans.

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

"I was Princess Leia for four years in a row on Halloween!"

followed by "and I mean recently" or something.

dan selzer, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

"And I love Dane Cook. Wonderful!"

kenan, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

the star wars blog joke was great but it wouldve been funnier if it was a series of disappointments rather than tina being excited about the star wars blog and then disappointed that its the missile program

and what, Friday, 2 March 2007 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

i realize that real-life tina fey is a star wars nerd for some dumbass reason

and what, Friday, 2 March 2007 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

nah i think it was a pretty good fake-out in the context of lots of other totally awful stuff about him you really thought that maybe they'd end up spinning into some lengthy plot arc involving a horrible-disfunctional geeky relationship or something.

s.clover, Friday, 2 March 2007 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

The minute a date mentioned Mark Russell I would be out the door.

Nicole, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

Ha, after all the Arrested Development compare-and-contrast, this week's episode was way more AD-ish -- more scattershot plotting, not really invested in arc resolution, etc. Which, yeah, I don't think works as well for this show. Plus to be honest I think the "Social Awkwardness Involving Behavior Toward Member of Minority Group" comedy has been done to death on TV at this point, like from Seinfeld episodes toThe Office (UK, plus kinda US, too) and back to Curb Your Enthusiasm -- it's gone past boring and predictable to being actively annoying as a comedy subject, I think.

nabisco, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure why but that post just reminded me of Grizz/Dot Com's only appearance in this ep: "we're NOT doing that".

nickalicious, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

I hope the increased level of dullness in this episode isn't the start of a trend. OTOH, it's still better than anything else out there and I laughed at the coworker's reaction to the "leather pumpkin" comment.

Bnad, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

nabisco OTM. I had the same problems with the episode. But like I said, watching it a second time, I realized Tracy Morgan can save anything from being a total disaster.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

it's gone past boring and predictable to being actively annoying as a comedy subject, I think.

Normally I would agree with this, and would cite Extras as another example of same, but I think that's part of the reason why I enjoyed the ludicrous conversation on their date even more.

accentmonkey, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

I still have enough white guilt that white guilt jokes still work on me. There are good ones and bad ones, though. These: decent. Larry David: over-the-top descent into nightmare.

kenan, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

"What is it with men and guns??"

"Well I think I speak for the both of us when I say...coz they're metal penises."

Gukbe, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

This was a much better example of it, but still. I'd totally forgotten Extras on that front -- Gervaise kept coming back to it in season, to an extent that abandons reality in really weird ways. (E.g. it's just TOO bizarre and jarring to imagine that adult film extras in London would be unable to talk to normal middle-class non-white people without embarrassing themselves.)

nabisco, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

white guilt jokes still hilarious

sanskrit, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

"This mess is gonna get raw like sushi, so hatas to the left" is my new catchphrase.

musically, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

i seriously can not get enough of kenneth

tehresa, Friday, 2 March 2007 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

That's what she sai

wait

nabisco, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, I think I know why I liked this racial awkwardness bit more than I normally like it in things. Because I don't get the sense that there actually is any underlying racism in the character. I believe Liz Lemon is not a racist. All those other guys, well... I wouldn't be so sure.

accentmonkey, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that does make it come off lighter, but it still means having to reach to implausible actions and events to make the awkwardness exist at all -- having the guy randomly accuse her of racism in the first place (an absurd, impossible event whose absurdity is totally passed over here), and then having her react in ways that are just as racially bumbling as a Gervaise thing (her pointed hello to the person in the elevator is realistic and funny, but pronouncing "Amanda" the way she does is fairly nonsensical).

nabisco, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

comedy is a motherfucker, innit nabs?

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:22 (nineteen years ago)

Comedy tends to work better when people's motivations and reactions make sense, no matter how ridiculous the situations they're put in!

nabisco, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

oh come on, the aman-da thing was perfect

cutty, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:38 (nineteen years ago)


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