who in this bitch reads robert jordan? -- The Wheel of Time thread

That said, the last two books have been the best since the first three or four, for my money -- but I didn't start reading until just before Path of Daggers came out, so I don't have the years of "what the fuck, when will you END IT, CONANBOY!" that a lot of folks have, so I might cut him more slack than I would otherwise.

(Peanut Gallery chimes in with plot outline of books 4-8.)

Yeah, but how much actually happens? He kept adding more and more subplots instead of resolving -- and sometimes instead of even addressing -- old ones.

LOOK OUT, SHOES!

if there is another book in the series where the main character BARELY FIGURES AT ALL then i may give up

SO TRUE.

I loyally read this series cos I started 13 years ago, but it's beginning to try my patience.

i need to muster up the energy to order the last one actually.

I caved in and started re-reading a few days ago. Already halfway through The Great Hunt. There's so much shit that I didn't even remember happening. It's better than TV at least.

(P.S. his Conan books suck in comparison to the Howard originals.)

does it bother anyone else when the characters speak without contractions? fuck, dude... his dialogue is v. unrealistic/wooden at times.

I NEVER GIVE UP ON BOOKS

Very true actually. I remember at the time this seemed really bold to me, (this was before I had read much at all admittedly), but it was also really emotionally affecting and vaguely tragic as well - kinda like a literal embodiment of post-colonial emphasis on lived experience, a "history" that is particular to the viewpoint of a certain group of people passed down through generations and cannot be translated. the slow abandonment of certain values being revealed in reverse was also super-effective, the dramatic irony of hearing Aiel say "we'll never give up the true way" (or whatever it was) when you've already read the scene where they give it up. The whole thing was immensely thoughtful.

There was lots of interesting alternate reality stuff like this in the earlier novels (like any time anyone stepped through a door/ring/touched a stone etc.) that is missing in the later stuff, and everything has increasingly been flattened out into an endless present tense that is almost suffocating.

I am almost done with book nine. :(

moral: never read a series that isn't finished!

oooh new book knife of dreams is out late 2005

...and I will wait quite a while it seems.

he's dead:

http://www.dragonmount.com/RobertJordan/?p=90

WTF

so wait, did he never outright finish the series? the first book came out in 1990 and now it's going to go unresolved? that. sucks.

I didn't dare write RIP or anything, I haven't read any of the books and people seemed to be so cheerfully talking about his death here :-/

i mean, obviously, RIP and all that. seemed like a nice guy, but WTF

rip

wtf

Indeed. :-/

A quick check at Wikipedia brings this up:

Final volume

On October 18, 2005, at a book signing in West Chester, Pennsylvania, Jordan gave the working title of the 12th book as A Memory of Light. As one of the attendees told Dragonmount.com, Jordan also warned that the final volume of the saga "could be a 1500-page monster" because he has so many dangling plot threads to wrap up in a single volume. He maintained that A Memory of Light would remain one volume "whether it is 1500 pages long, Tor has to invent a new binding system, or it comes with its own library cart". Due to his health problems, Jordan did not work at full force on the final installment, but blog entries confirmed that he continued work on it until his death, and he shared all of the significant plot details with his family not long before he died. [13]

So presumably there'll be an ending of some sort.

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wtf is up with all yo's wtf's?

http://i18.tinypic.com/6apgw1w.gif

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He had been ill for some time with some obscure form of cancer and received some treatment for it last year. He had been rushing through the final book as he knew his time was limited and his wife is apparently due to finish it off from his outline.

Some of us have read all 11 books and were awaiting the 12th with bated breath. Even thought others will finish off his plots for him, they won't have been written by him, hence "wtf".

oh! ok, thanks.

Ridiculous!!!

sucks :(

You've axed the wrong fantasy show Amazon

moiraine + thom was absurd

the…. gleeman? wtaf

him pulling at her braid

we know RJ was into s/m

and then logain made [a red aes sedai] orgasm when he bonded her

and then the other sister logain bonded waxed poetic about how hot it was to be overpowered by him

tbf i'd (almost) take straight-up orgies over the whole thing in which aes sedai are supposed to be eternally composed and supremely unflappable yet vomit/blush/collapse in shame when faced with someone 'stern'

is absurd and just fucking endless. someone sniffed; someone's eyes were lowered; come on.

yes i'm reading it again

you cannot possibly shame me for it more than i shame myself (i was bored)

the whole thing in which aes sedai are supposed to be eternally composed and supremely unflappable yet vomit/blush/collapse in shame when faced with someone 'stern' is absurd and just fucking endless. someone sniffed; someone's eyes were lowered; come on

only started re-reading it because i was struggling with beginning other things

ffs

there are no beginnings

"The wheel turns, man."

cant spell beginnings without beg

it was *a* beginning

theres an extent to which the potential in my head of what this might have been somewhat crosses over emotionally with Tottenham in the same period and readers i just get sad and angry and beat when i think of the imagined optimism of a redcheeked 32 year old me told that special effects could make anything happen and the richest company in the world was going to adapt this in a long running season format at the same time that the great fallen general mourinho then the crazed warrior conte would lead my team in successive campaigns in a new shining structure designed to awe and dismay the world and lads the big bad world is an adventure but it also takes from us and the world of dreams isnt a mirror but it isnt a liar neither joail out

tottenham probably had better music

https://i.postimg.cc/8P19Pd0V/HAw-JTw-Va-AAQlqp-C.png

death is lighter than a feather iirc

Meantime:

https://variety.com/2026/gaming/news/wheel-of-time-animated-series-movies-video-game-thomas-vu-1236693410/

mat's inbox:

https://i.postimg.cc/TPhcwDZK/rand-and-mats-mailbox.png

rand's:

https://i.postimg.cc/Kj7PVrMX/rand-and-mats-mailbox2.jpg

Hauntingly accurate.

can only imagine that perrin's would be like 15 iterations of

@neilhimself: @amandapalmer I am coming home to you.

plus other boring stuff because he sucks

It is wild how much I latched on to Perrin mostly due to his name

I don’t get why everyone else hates him he’s my avatar in book form perfectly fine