Robert Mitchum C/D, S/D

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in Angel Face with Jean Simmons


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in River of No Return with Marilyn Monroe

amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 18 August 2003 20:41 (twenty years ago) link

"Lean was convinced that nobody could be a sincere ack-tor and fool around on the set like I did. So he shouted, 'Roll them,' or whatever they say over there, 'Ack-shun.' And I did this pretty tender scene in one take. Lean was decimated. Had tears in his eyes. 'I cahn't tell you how luv-ly that was,' he said. I shrugged and said, 'You don't think it was too Jewish?' What did he expect at those prices?

"Somebody says, 'We really want you to do this script.' And I say, 'I'd need an awful lot of money in front to do that one.' And that never seems to be a problem. The less I like the script, the higher my price. And they pay. They may pay in yen, but they pay. Not that I'm a complete whore, understand. There are movies I won't do for any amount. I turned down 'Patton' and I turned down 'Dirty Harry.' Movies that piss on the world. If I've got $5 in my pocket, I don't need to make money that fucking way, daddy."

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 18 August 2003 20:42 (twenty years ago) link

I found em on the future-web! I was looking for this anecdote, from an interview with Yaphet Kotto:
One of the things Dean Martin used to say was, who gives less of a shit, Kotto, or Mitchum? And I think Mitchum kind of outdid me. We had these bungalows together, right next door and I went to get him one night to go eat. I go over there and knock on the door. He said, "Who the hell is it?" and I said "Kotto." And I go in, and he's just sitting there on the edge of the bed, and I notice that the room is dark, and it's cold. And I said, what are you doing here in the dark, and he said, there's no lights. I said why is it so cold, and he said, there's no heat. So I said, Bob, why don't you get someone to turn on the heat? Why don't you get someone to turn on the lights? And he just sat there on the edge of the bed, and said, "Fuck em." He would have gone on right that way. That's how much he didn't care.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 18 August 2003 20:48 (twenty years ago) link

River of No Return, wasn't nuts about that one.

s1utsky (slutsky), Monday, 18 August 2003 21:29 (twenty years ago) link

Oh my god, Tracer, those are just priceless.

rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 02:20 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...
robert mitchum cycle in paris later this month!!

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 27 November 2003 23:42 (twenty years ago) link

"The only difference between me and my fellow actors is that I've spent more time in jail."

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 27 November 2003 23:57 (twenty years ago) link

"People think I have an interesting walk. Hell, I'm just trying to hold my gut in."

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 27 November 2003 23:57 (twenty years ago) link

the last movie in the cycle is "the yakuza"!!

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 27 November 2003 23:58 (twenty years ago) link

The best part of that Salon piece/interview:

"I've been called a cynic, which I surely can't deny because I am a cynical-style girl. I happen to believe a certain amount of cynicism is inherent in the beast. But there's a little romanticism in there, too. And more than a little hedonism. You can use this to sum it all up: I know what I'm doing is bullshit. But I've got to admit, it's also a pretty good ride."

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 28 November 2003 00:13 (twenty years ago) link

Shouting out again for The Yakuza which is just a fantastic movie. Also search out the oddball war movie Anzio (with Peter Falk!) and What A Way To Go!

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 28 November 2003 00:19 (twenty years ago) link

btw he is not really my favorite actor that would be henry fonda but i still love him

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 28 November 2003 00:20 (twenty years ago) link

Not too much too add to the above.

"The Big Steal" is a great film, with William Bendix and Jane Greer. He calls Greer "chiquita" during the whole movie. Very nice.

"Calypso Is Like So" is awesome, I just got a brand-new Mitchum CD with that entire work on it. Also, Robert Mitchum, for what it's worth, did the best-ever version of "Sunny."

One of the greatest all-rounders ever. The deodorant works good too.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 28 November 2003 00:23 (twenty years ago) link

where can i get mitchum deodorant??

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 28 November 2003 00:25 (twenty years ago) link

"Night of the Hunter" fuckin rocks. Thanks to Amateurist, I now have a lot more movies on my "must see" list. Awesome!

sucka (sucka), Friday, 28 November 2003 02:42 (twenty years ago) link

robert mitchum is probably my all-time cinema crush. he sang the theme song to 'thunder road' ("the ballad of thunder road"): "there was moonshine, moonshine to quench the devil's thirst/the law they swore they'd get him but the devil got him first."

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 28 November 2003 02:58 (twenty years ago) link

that's the best song!

s1utsky (slutsky), Friday, 28 November 2003 03:04 (twenty years ago) link

"the ballad of thunder road" and "little ol winedrinker me" are the two songs that make it VERY DIFFICULT for me to believe it's actually mitchum's voice on that calypso record

jones (actual), Friday, 28 November 2003 03:06 (twenty years ago) link

haha x-post i am so dead!!

jones (actual), Friday, 28 November 2003 03:09 (twenty years ago) link

JONES!!!!!!!!

s1utsky (slutsky), Friday, 28 November 2003 03:12 (twenty years ago) link

don't get me wrong: even when he's actually some poor nameless guy from trinidad mitchum totally rules

jones (actual), Friday, 28 November 2003 03:22 (twenty years ago) link

I was living down in L.A. and I got a call from David Lean and Bobby Bolt about playing the schoolteacher. They told me there would be a rather protracted period in Ireland, and I figured there must be some Irish actors who could use the job, so I said, "Well thatnks, but no thank you." And they said , "Do you have other plans?" I said, "As a matter of fact, I was planning suicide." So David said, "Bob, if you would simply do this wretched film of ours, I would be happy to stand the expense of your burial." I said, "I'll be right there."

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 28 November 2003 04:45 (twenty years ago) link

angel face is so fucking great

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 28 November 2003 13:50 (twenty years ago) link

nine months pass...
"you look like you're in trouble."
"why?"
"because you don't look like it."

cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:02 (nineteen years ago) link

- 'out of the past'.

cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Watched Night of the Hunter again a couple of weeks ago, and man, does that movie kick ass.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:24 (nineteen years ago) link

i like thye part in "out of the past" where douglas asks if mitchum wants a smoke, and mitchum holds up his lit cigarette and says, "smoking."

seriously every film noir should end with every major character hospitalized for lung cancer.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 3 September 2004 18:31 (nineteen years ago) link

out of the past was on tcm the other day. good god, do i love mitchum.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 3 September 2004 19:06 (nineteen years ago) link

"is there any way to win?"

"there's a way to lose more slowly."

amateur!!st, Friday, 17 September 2004 17:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Definitely worth seeking out: the Dave Hickey essay "Mitchum Gets Out of Jail," originally published in Art Issues, reprinted in the (so-so) anthology "O.K. You Mugs":

"Among the likes of Jimmy Stewart, Henry Fonda, and Ronald Reagan, he was like a switchblade on a plate of cupcakes."

Marcel Post (Marcel Post), Friday, 17 September 2004 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link

i dunno, jimmy stewart had his crazed neurotic period

amateur!!st, Friday, 17 September 2004 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link

also: ronald reagan? the b-list actor?

amateur!!st, Friday, 17 September 2004 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link

I think the list of other actors is meant to indicate people who, in different ways, played "men." Y'know?

Marcel Post (Marcel Post), Friday, 17 September 2004 18:08 (nineteen years ago) link

More:

"Mitchum is always playing a presence, a moral creature, incarcerated by the text, and when it works, he burns a hole in the screen, invests the vacant platitudes of professional screenwriting with something dark and strange, simply because he is not playing by the rules: he is obeying the rules, of course, as any convict must. He is hitting his marks, making the moves and saying the words, but he is not acting by the the rules, not deriving the subtext from the text."

Marcel Post (Marcel Post), Friday, 17 September 2004 18:13 (nineteen years ago) link

a diabolical shit.

cºzen (Cozen), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link

my dream man.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 23:15 (nineteen years ago) link

haha i have that calypso album. I also use mitchum deodorant (coincidentally) he and orson welles are pretty much my favorite people ever, and also is my sexual ideal. i've probably seen night of the hunter a billion times.

\(^o^)/ (Adrian Langston), Thursday, 23 September 2004 09:18 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
TCM is doing a Bob Mitchum thing this week. Has anyone read that bio? I think it's got an Elvis song as it's title- You're So Square?

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 00:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Baby I Don't Care

Marxism Goes Better With Coke (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 14:46 (eighteen years ago) link

So you know what? I believe P!tchf0rk writer R0b M!tchum is in actual fact casually related to the ORM (Original Robert Mitchum).

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:15 (eighteen years ago) link

i just watched and greatly enjoyed the noir/message picture Crossfire, but Robert Ryan is actually the main guy in that. Robert Young is in it too. Ryan is excellent, and Gloria Grahame is good in the typical Gloria Grahame B-girl role. Mitchum is OK, but like I said, it's not really his picture.

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 03:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Never seen any of his films, but he has some great songs!

Menelaus Darcy (Menelaus Darcy), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 04:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Robert Ryan is in a few a these actually. He's got a interesting thing going on, somewhere between a second string leading man and a Dan Duryea sleazeball.

k/l (Ken L), Thursday, 6 October 2005 00:38 (eighteen years ago) link

TS Robert Mitchum vs. Robert Ryan

After all, every one of these threads devoted to an oldtime actor usually has another actor pop up on them trying to steal the limelight, even the RIP ones.

k/l (Ken L), Thursday, 6 October 2005 00:40 (eighteen years ago) link

May I recommend a fantastic book called " Solid, Dad, Crazy" by Damien Love, which explores the idea that throughout his career Mitchum was playing outsider characters. It's a great accompaniment to the Lee Server bio (which is a fantastic book, one of the best hollywood biogs i've ever read).

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v24/n02/cart01_.html
I recently finally got to see Thunder Road. I can't seen to get hold of The Yakuza in the UK.. anyone got any ideas?

Pandas At War (pandas at war), Thursday, 6 October 2005 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link

So I finally figured out that the title of the bio Baby, I Don't Care is a line from Out Of The Past.

I like OOTP fine, but even after seeing it a few times, I have trouble getting completey absorbed in it- it is a little too long, elaborate, understated, laid back and abstract in a way, it is almost a mannerist take on noir. I actually prefer the other Mitchum/Greer teamup, The Big Steal- it's zips along at a fast pace, has got a great cast, and has some great stuff about Mexico.

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 01:48 (eighteen years ago) link

So the other day on a whim I bought a DVD of "My Forbidden Past", starring Mitchum and Ava Gardner. Today I checked up on what people were saying about it, and apparently it's widely considered a dud - hohum. But I decided to give it a whirl anyway, and - turns out the DVD inside the case isn't "My Forbidden Past" at all, but "Macao"! Which also has Mitchum in it, and is pretty awesome (Jane Russel's great in it too - not much of a plot, but plenty of wonderful banter) I'll never doubt the inherent classicness of purchasing anything Mitchum-related again!

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 23 October 2005 16:21 (eighteen years ago) link

My Forbidden Past is pretty good too! Ava Gardner is even more beautiful than usual, if that's possible, and Melvyn Douglas is great as her aging corrupt scheming playboy cousin. It's sort of a lopsided movie, all buildup and than a too swift rush to the conclusion, but definitely worth seeing. The actress who plays Robert Mitchum's wife who is seduced by Melvyn Douglas is good too, although I forget her name. I dunno why it's viewed as such a dud-maybe people didn't like the soapy plot.

k/l (Ken L), Sunday, 23 October 2005 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I have trouble imagining anyone answering "dud" to this one.

M. V. (M.V.), Sunday, 23 October 2005 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

If they do, then build their gallows high, baby.

k/l (Ken L), Sunday, 23 October 2005 18:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Even at the very height of my Mitchum obsession I saw a DVD box of that and thought "life's too short".

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 5 October 2017 14:22 (six years ago) link

River of No Return, wasn't nuts about that one.

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agreed

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 15 October 2017 23:26 (six years ago) link

Liked a few moments but yeah

Commandolin Wind (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 15 October 2017 23:32 (six years ago) link

Notable Mitchum character names from the 1940s:

Quentin 'Horse' Gilford
Tate Winters
Henchman Randall
Dirk Mason
Panhandle Mitchell
Ben Slocum
Trigger Dolan
Henchman Rip Austin
Seaman Chuck Ryan
Mickey Halligan
Dying Soldier - 'I'm All Right'
Nick Drago
'Pig-Iron' Matthews
Jim Lacy aka Nevada
Pecos Smith
Jeb Rand

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Sunday, 15 October 2017 23:41 (six years ago) link

The Winds of War was a miniseries, right? i'm sure Bob snored through it.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 15 October 2017 23:50 (six years ago) link

when he wasn't freezing his ass off and getting eaten by ticks during the year (!) of filming, according to the bio

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 15 October 2017 23:55 (six years ago) link

And that presumably doesn't include War and Remembrance.

I do recall David Letterman was tickled when TWOW won an Emmy and the producer gruffly thanked the network for "ponying up the dough!"

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 October 2017 00:14 (six years ago) link

speaking of those I can't believe Herman Wouk is still alive.

nomar, Monday, 16 October 2017 00:29 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

Dan Milner: Whenever I have nothing to do and I can't think, I always iron my money.
Lenore Brent: What d'ya do when you're broke?
Dan Milner: When I'm broke, I press my pants.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 30 November 2018 00:50 (five years ago) link

six months pass...
two years pass...

30 of his films on Criterion right now.

Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 14 November 2021 22:58 (two years ago) link

Enjoyed the Lusty Men. He’s great in it

Heez, Sunday, 14 November 2021 23:12 (two years ago) link

Yeah, like that one too.

Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 14 November 2021 23:13 (two years ago) link

Just watched the two films he did with director John Farrow:

Where Danger Lives a simple but very good noir, featuring Faith Domergue. Mitchum is semi-zonked for much of the film after getting brained by Claude Rains.

His Kind of Woman an odd 2-hour long film that starts as straight noir and then Vincent Price's ham actor character hijacks it and turns it into a comedic spoof. Has some cool interior design.

And then watched Track of the Cat which is florid and awkward and oh-so-1950s. Not for me.

Josefa, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 00:34 (two years ago) link

Also watched Angel Face which is a little nutty but I liked seeing Jean Simmons in the bad girl role, it seems to go against character.

Josefa, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 00:46 (two years ago) link

*against type I mean

Josefa, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 00:47 (two years ago) link

Watched out of the past oh Saturday. Absolute stone cold classic. Five bags of popcorn and a bunch of cigarettes for Bob Mitchum to smoke

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 02:02 (two years ago) link

Feel like I live-blogged a stretch of His Kind of Woman once, maybe upthread.

Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 02:05 (two years ago) link

Howzabout the, um, sequel to Out of the Past, The Big Steal?

Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 02:14 (two years ago) link

I highly recommend Pursued which is not in the CC series

Josefa, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 02:26 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

His Kind of Woman an odd 2-hour long film that starts as straight noir and then Vincent Price's ham actor character hijacks it and turns it into a comedic spoof. Has some cool interior design

I posted almost exactly this earlier this morning on the noir thread! I saw this movie eons ago, 1980s I believe, and in the intervening years I forgot the title, the plot, and the stars. All I could remember was the fantastic mid-mod set design of the Mexican lodge, and that the action later moved to a boat. Finally tracked it down last night! Allegedly it was Howard Hughes' meddling and reshoots that led to the incoherent combination of violent hypodermic attacks and shipboard slapstick in the finale.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 19:33 (two years ago) link


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