Shall we anticpate the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

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just another excuse to show that eyeball

that scene in s3 where he talks about "half-measures" and tells the story about being a policeman etc, is just so unbelievably raw and real.

^ one of my favorite bb moments

duke of irl (Edward III), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:30 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arTnX8tF2_s

LocalGarda, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:34 (fourteen years ago)

I thought the locksmith scene was a great character piece for Skylar... really demonstrated how conniving and manipulative she can be, which I think is a bit of foreshadowing in terms her characters development this season.

writing down my vagina’s sorrows for all the world to see (The Brainwasher), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:38 (fourteen years ago)

Like, when she handed this strange man her newborn baby I was disgusted with her in a way I haven't been before, even though I didn't even like her character until season 3!

writing down my vagina’s sorrows for all the world to see (The Brainwasher), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:39 (fourteen years ago)

on reflection feel the victor thing was a bit stupid...like they made him be seen at the crimespot just so that they could make him have suddenly decided he could cook meth just so they could have gus SURPRISINGLY kill him. not the standard you'd usually expect.

LocalGarda, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:55 (fourteen years ago)

lol crimespot...crimescene!

LocalGarda, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:55 (fourteen years ago)

No, I can see why me showed up at the crimescene... at the end of s3 he was trying to get there before Jesse did. So clearly, he didn't think Gale had already been killed when he went there, he was trying to prevent it!

writing down my vagina’s sorrows for all the world to see (The Brainwasher), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:59 (fourteen years ago)

yeah true...but he did kinda storm in

LocalGarda, Monday, 18 July 2011 22:09 (fourteen years ago)

so what, just another lookey-loo

^ loved that

duke of irl (Edward III), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:47 (fourteen years ago)

there were scenes that were sort of pointless, eg skylar driving the car away and coming back, seemed to take ages but what was the point?

TENSION

dave kohl (sic), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:43 (fourteen years ago)

yeah and just spending a little time with her cause it's been awhile

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:07 (fourteen years ago)

I was surprised by Victor knowing the recipe. They set it up so that viewers could have guessed it in season 3 but it never entered my mind.

Not surprised by him being killed instead of Walt and Jesse. Mike mentioning the witnesses without an immediate plot payoff gave it away.

little mushroom person (abanana), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:20 (fourteen years ago)

plus the ep is called 'box cutter' ffs, someones gettin gashed, isnt gonna be walt or jesse, no reason for mike to get it

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:45 (fourteen years ago)

the killing was more graphic than reservoir dogs.. crazy to me that this is on TV

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:48 (fourteen years ago)

have you seen the walking dead

duke of irl (Edward III), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:51 (fourteen years ago)

yea i could not even deal w/ that teaser for that show my god

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:53 (fourteen years ago)

no i haven't

speaking of tarantino, the denny's scene felt like a pretty explicit acknowledgement of the debt they owe to his steez

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:53 (fourteen years ago)

was going to mention the cleanup --> diner thing being a pretty transparent tarantino homage

Clay, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:28 (fourteen years ago)

I kinda miss the chemistry MacGyver stuff.

Dan I., Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:33 (fourteen years ago)

I mean, obviously the clean-up was like that, but they did that one already!

Dan I., Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:33 (fourteen years ago)

the chunky bits... floating in the barrel...

karma's ruthless invisible (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:37 (fourteen years ago)

"plus the ep is called 'box cutter' ffs, someones gettin gashed, isnt gonna be walt or jesse, no reason for mike to get it"

Next ep is 'thirty-eight snub'! Any wagers?

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:48 (fourteen years ago)

I would be cool with them naming each episode after the weapon that kills someone in said episode, that would be clever

generous doler out of lollies (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:49 (fourteen years ago)

And the last episode would be "love"

generous doler out of lollies (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:50 (fourteen years ago)

that's a gun innit? i'd guess hank thinks about shooting himself.

little mushroom person (abanana), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:51 (fourteen years ago)

that would be clever - but only if they reversed engineered it so that they had to write around whatever random noun they picked as a little.
s04e08 "Cotton Ball"

karma's ruthless invisible (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:55 (fourteen years ago)

I thought the locksmith scene was a great character piece for Skylar... really demonstrated how conniving and manipulative she can be,

I dunno, it was just a repeat of her fake breakdown when she got nabbed for Marie's shoplifting

dmr, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 02:42 (fourteen years ago)

sound design in the opening flashback was amazing to me

tehresa, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 03:10 (fourteen years ago)

I'm surprised they didn't just kill Walt and Jesse in the first scene. Oh, wait, no I'm not.

Given the amount of leverage Gus has on Walt, though, I'm surprised they needed to go through that pantomime. He could just threaten Walt's family, no? And what, is the idea that Walt and Jesse are now working for him for free? Because what incentive does Gus have now to do anything more than let them live?

Only course of action for this show is: a) Walt kills Gus and becomes "Gus," and b) Hank learns to walk again, inspired by a fresh scent of Heisenberg. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But the downside of a show this tight is there's really nowhere else for it to go. There's a reason most of the great novels, movies, plays, etc. are not written as open-ended narratives. There's a natural arc to these things, and you can only pad them so much...

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 03:18 (fourteen years ago)

as mentioned upthread the sticker on Walt's shirt was just priceless, favorite part of the show.

Smile and cringe, smile and cringe

calstars, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 03:22 (fourteen years ago)

Loved the sticker!!!!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 03:30 (fourteen years ago)

the scene worked, but agree it was out of character for gus... he doesn't get his hands dirty ever and then he wacks somebody?

Doesn't every thriller have a scene where the big boss man who never gets his hands dirty kills one of his henchmen in front of the others in order to remind them how he got to be big boss man in the first place?

I absolutely loved Walt's pointless babbling while Jesse just sat there, slumped in his chair, fully expecting to be killed at any moment. Then when he realises he might not be, he just gets on with things. He's past crying and breaking down and being emotional. Get some breakfast down you and get on with your day.

trishyb, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 08:17 (fourteen years ago)

was going to mention the cleanup --> diner thing being a pretty transparent tarantino homage

yeah, right down to them having been given hilariously inappropriate clothes!

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 09:10 (fourteen years ago)

when walt comes home and his car's not there and skyler comes out to the driveway i was thinking that what walt probably needs more than anything else in the world is a big hug, but those days are gone forever

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 09:57 (fourteen years ago)

Next ep is 'thirty-eight snub'! Any wagers?
i guess mike is the shooter, he carries a .38 snub.

, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:41 (fourteen years ago)

Anna Gunn’s altered face is a bit weird when she smiles. There’s the slightest bit of Jokerface there. I imagine I’ll get used to it, but it’s a little jarring after a year of hiatus. I wish TV producers could put clauses in contracts forbidding plastic surgery, the way athletes are not supposed to do any extreme sports in the offseason.

Glad someone else noticed.

Burning Hell Sunflower Blues Band (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:51 (fourteen years ago)

i guess i thought she was just wearing more makeup but... she just woke up; she hasn't put on any makeup

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:53 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, I just figured that was her lack-of-make-up make-up.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:15 (fourteen years ago)

Also, Jesse's had a fatalistic streak since the girl died. It's like he's the walking dead; he understands that death is right around every corner (though of course we viewers know it's not), while Walt is arrogant, hubristic and prideful enough to believe that he knows how to outsmart death. At this point Jesse isn't even thankful of the number of times Walt has saved his life, because he knows at what cost.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:18 (fourteen years ago)

bryan cranston on Conan last night. .38 snub refers to walt arming himself with a new gun.

Aerosol, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:02 (fourteen years ago)

2.6 million viewers for the first ep; record for the show. people are buying in this season.

generous doler out of lollies (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:23 (fourteen years ago)

nice!

karma's ruthless invisible (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:10 (fourteen years ago)

Felt like they really stepped up the cinematography and sound design in this episode. Watched it on a nice HD TV and was blown away by how vivid it looked.

Storywise I felt like it moved things forward handily; excited to see what happens with the lab notebook. I got the gut feeling this season is going to end up with that lab getting nuked by Walt and Jesse.

Funny thing about that Denny's they ended up at; it's by far the sketchiest Denny's on the face of the planet. Right across the road from UNM and devolves into a massive brawl between some combination of cholos/students/hippies/drug addicts/homeless practically every night at some point. It was also the inspiration for the goth episode of South Park after Trey and Matt met some goth's there after hours.

I'm also pretty sure that homeless guy trying to get into Saul's office is based on a homeless guy who wanders around where they shoot a lot. Total fucking psycho who just barks at people all day. The actor they had was the spitting image, hell maybe they even paid the guy.

Ryan, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:31 (fourteen years ago)

i'm so glad this is back. didn't think the scene with gus and the box cutter was out of character at all, just that we hadn't seen that side of him before. seems pretty obvious he didn't get to where he is simply because of his gentle manners. i mean even walt has murdered at least a couple of dudes by now.

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:07 (fourteen years ago)

Watched it on a nice HD TV and was blown away by how vivid it looked.

yeah, saul's tie/shirt combo was POPPIN

re sound design, i loved the scene where they're waiting for gus and victor just swangin his leg from a metal table and it makes this incredibly tiny little "skreeeenk.... skreeeeenk...."

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:11 (fourteen years ago)

There’s a difference between drawing something out and padding it to the point of being boring, of stretching to the breaking point but not actually breaking. On the page, it's not just, "Gus comes downstairs and undresses." You try to describe what everybody's thinking, what everybody's feeling. You try to make it novelistic. There's a little novelist in all of us television writers.

i think gilligan's gut instinct was right - it was milked a little too much. still great, obv, but you could sort of see the gears of the production turning a little

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

interview confirms his original conception of walt as a good guy

My first inclination for this show was that this was a good man — fundamentally good — who was doing a really stupid thing, cooking crystal meth, and was ignorant of how terrible this world was and would quickly be in over his head, and quickly forces beyond his control would make him continue cooking. Perhaps he'd be held in some sort of bondage by some kingpin and made to cook meth. It occurred to us early on, "You know what? We don't want to see that. No one wants to see that." They want to see this guy, right or wrong, have the will to go forward in this thing. That's a much more interesting character than a character who is forced simply by dire straits.

Any one can have ketchup for their food, I don't care any more (Edward III), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 19:47 (fourteen years ago)

^ see, that is where I have to go all New Criticism & disagree w/ the man on his own fictional creation. Clearly, Walt was not already a sociopath, but the potential was there. It just needed a catalyst.

steady yachting (Pillbox), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 21:13 (fourteen years ago)

don't think that conflicts with what he's saying tho?

Any one can have ketchup for their food, I don't care any more (Edward III), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 21:27 (fourteen years ago)


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