who have the Tories got who's far enough out of the loop to take over as PM without being in the same situation in 2 weeks time?
who does labour have &c &c
― lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:55 (twelve years ago) link
i said days ago at least nobody can accuse the Lib Dems of being too close to NI. or anybody else
― dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:55 (twelve years ago) link
no lex absolutely this doesn't help the revivified corpse of the Labour party one iota. if anything, electorally this ought to play well for the LDs except you know that wd be logical or something
― dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:56 (twelve years ago) link
prolego otm and i dont see wtf shaun wright-phillips has to do with it tbh
― who shivs a git (darraghmac), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link
No idea, isn't the chancellor first in line for this kind of thing? He's been very quiet recently though. Would love to know what they have on him.
I had to check the PM page on wiki for backup and found this lovely official Cameron photo on there.
― gyac, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link
there's always boris.
― prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link
the chancellor was the one who recommended coulson! though that could have been a ruthless move aimed at eventually destorying cameron. he's very ambition.
― prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:59 (twelve years ago) link
xp
George has problems with escort and coke, yes?
― natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link
It'll be interesting to see how much pressure there is from the Tory right / Telegraph / Mail on Cameron in the next few weeks. They only tolerated him initially because he was reasonably popular. If that starts to slip, he might have trouble within the party. On the one hand, his cuts have probably been aggressive enough for most of them, on the other, he hasn't been particularly hardline on Europe or law and order. I'm sure that the whole party had fed from the NI trough at one point but none are tied so closely or would make such a convenient sacrifice. I can't really see it happening though. Who would step in? Pickles? Davies?
Also interesting to think about what the ostensible removal of the Murdoch influence might mean for his personal politics moving forward.
― модный хипстер (ShariVari), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:03 (twelve years ago) link
problems?
― who shivs a git (darraghmac), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:03 (twelve years ago) link
It'll be interesting to see how much pressure there is from the Tory right / Telegraph / Mail on Cameron in the next few weeks.
Already kicking in:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100097264/sir-paul-stephenson-resigns-this-is-grave-news-for-david-cameron/
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:04 (twelve years ago) link
PIIICKLLLLLLLLLLLEEESSS
― MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
Cameron speaks:
Sir Paul Stephenson has had a long and distinguished career in the police, and I would like to thank him for his service over many, many years.Under his leadership the Metropolitan Police made good progress in fighting crime, continued its vital work in combating terrorism, and scored notable successes such as the policing of the Royal Wedding.While I know that today must be a very sad occasion for him, I respect and understand his decision to leave the Met, and I wish him well for the future.What matters most of all now is that the Metropolitan Police and the Metropolitan Police Authority do everything possible to ensure the investigations into phone hacking and alleged police corruption proceed with all speed, with full public confidence and with all the necessary leadership and resources to bring them to an effective conclusion.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link
From Osborne's last speech three days ago!
We have discussed chocolate biscuits, Tupperware, secret treaties and what Mr Skinner said in 1971, the year in which I was born.
― gyac, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
NADINE DORRIES FOR PM
― prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:11 (twelve years ago) link
Loving waking up atm. Every day is like xmas.
― Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
This doesn't look good for ERII either, this all happened during her reign. Can we expect a "One abdicates" speech over this too?
― StanM, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe Liz, Charles, and Wills can all abdicate one after the other, leaving Harry as king?
― Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
I mean, a guy who wears a Nazi to a fancy dress party has got to make the government look good by comparison.
― Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link
Nazi uniformoh dear...
Let it cascade down to Beatrice, who can become queen only if she wears that hat all day.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link
Wearing a Nazi is the in thing, don't you know.
'ere, guvnor, I 'ad that Goebbells on me 'ead last week!
― Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link
Ow man, we're gonna need a bigger boatload of popcorn if all of that happens.
― StanM, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link
It's Cameron's involvement that makes me think that they're all going to get out of this relatively unscathed. Junior takes one for the team and does time in an open prison, getting let out early for 'good behaviour', but that's about it.― Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Sunday, July 17, 2011 9:51 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark
― Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Sunday, July 17, 2011 9:51 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark
returning to this, if the met is like every other organization of human beings in history, those slightly lower in the hierarchy will want to fill the power vacuum left by the departure of the discredited former top brass. so some part of justice may be served by their ambition, kind of thing.
― so brycey (history mayne), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link
Pippa will probably end up Queen.
― prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link
lol @ dorries for PM.& i had the same holy shit! feeling at wondering if clegg could somehow become PM out of this. it would be so amazing. it would be worth how terrible it would be just for how awkward it would be.
cameron doesn't control events, no-one does. there are conspiracies, sure, but cameron is clearly not on top of this situation
yeah for the talk of osbourne being quiet i really do think it's weird that cameron's been so useless w/this - you'd have thought he'd be trying to get ahead of the story, & wonder if there's a fear of something that's stopping him from doing so.
also waking up every morning knowing more of this shit is coming OTM. there was a comment is free piece about how this 'isn't britain's worst crisis', which sort of misses the point, that it's britain's best crisis.
― Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:21 (twelve years ago) link
Surely the Tory Right would rather be in Opposition than have Clegg as PM?
― carson dial, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
they mayn't have a choice?
― dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:24 (twelve years ago) link
theresa may preparing to give a statement at 10pm on a sunday makes me feel like she might've killed bin laden?, or at least the bin laden of this story, rupert murdoch?
― Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:29 (twelve years ago) link
xp Clegg would have to be PM at least temporarily, but the TR would fight to have one of their number as PM.
― Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link
― prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:11 (18 minutes ago)
thought this said NANDO TORRES for a second
― MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link
neither of them have scored in the last 6 months
― dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:32 (twelve years ago) link
the appraisal of telegraph blogwriters and other assorted bankrupts is rather wishfully END TIMES
cameron is ~gonna get thru this~
― MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
not without a few kickings, still
― MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:34 (twelve years ago) link
slam dunk from NV
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link
Cameron is kind of obligated to be on the back foot with all this. every additional word he says about it reminds people of his involvement with Coulson. his hands are tied.
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
A roffly detail:
The prime minister is currently en route on a foreign trip. His location is being kept a secret for security reasons, according to the BBC. However he was informed about Stephenson's resignation before flying and is being kept informed in the air.
"Called Siberia, I think, don't worry, plenty of room."
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:39 (twelve years ago) link
he will make a new life in mexico
― Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:39 (twelve years ago) link
for Cameron to go, I think it'll take somebody senior in the Government to deal the first blow. Can't see that happening.
― dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link
yah pretty sure georgie never did that
― MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
Wasn't one K. Clarke famously anti-Murdoch at one point? He's been quite quiet too.
What a day this was. Cmon Tuesday already.
― stet, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:49 (twelve years ago) link
So where is Cameron that he needs to be secretive, Afghanistan - surely too dangerous currently (and hasn't he just been there)? Iraq? Scotland?
― that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:52 (twelve years ago) link
Australia, obv. Murdoch's mom is already getting her knife ready.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
libya?
― MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
He's en route to South Africa.
― natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:54 (twelve years ago) link
any chance if cameron cred was destroted lib dems would make common cause w labour and form new coalition?
― by another name (amateurist), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:56 (twelve years ago) link
the lib dem leadership would need to be completely removed, don't think there are any likely insurgents from outside the cabinet
― MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:57 (twelve years ago) link
triumphant return of charlie kennedy would be fun tho
― MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link