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oh god

Spotify, Spotify me (DJP), Friday, 15 July 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

Kathryn Jean Lopez chats with Paul Hollander about his new book, Extravagant Expectations.

I bet she does.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

Classic Derbyshire: Obama is Peron.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 July 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/272081/modern-poverty-includes-ac-and-xbox-ken-mcintyre

this post has 212 comments

goole, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

modern poverty includes adobe slats

my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:31 (twelve years ago) link

I posted a response to this one:

I think it is a complete outrage that when I go to the store for groceries I have to shop with coupons and by store brand food and only what is sale, but yet when the lady in front of me has pounds of shrimp, delmonico steaks, and lobster tail and pays with her food stamp card. Then the same lady takes out a wad of cash to get her smokes and alcohol, then goes gets her nails done and hair done. How can I tell my daughters that you have to work to get everything when they see this everyday. If you have money to buy luxuries such as smokes, alcohol, get your hair done, xboxes, video games, extra TV's, and etc maybe you don't need that welfare check. I grew up very low middle class had one TV and no video games but my parents worked for the food on the table it might not have been much but it was enough. The goverment needs to set up an agency that monitors these leeches of society to make sure funds are giveng to the right people.

and so on

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

stuff like that still makes me so sad

goole, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

what's he doing following her to the beauty parlor?

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:42 (twelve years ago) link

You know, I worked with Medicaid patients for some time, and I've spent the last two years going to free clinics, food banks, and the like for my own family, and I've never seen a poor person with a designer handbag, fancy jewelry, or a fancy sports car. What gives?

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

the right always describes this supermarket scenario where some vile parasite is vacuuming up shrimp and yellow tail with her free-ride stamps but i have never seen it happen! maybe i am not paying enough attention while in supermarket lines but i need all my faculties to keep me from buying reese's cups.

my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

love this one though:

If paying taxes was voluntary, then I wouldn't have an issue.

my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

I once shut my mother up after she complained about seeing a woman use food stamps to buy groceries yet used a $50 bill to buy a pack of smokes. "It's likely her son or relative gave her that money, as in 'Here, Ma - fifty bucks for the week,'" I said.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

The creator of this "meme," by the way, was Reagan, who cited the Welfare Queen in a number of speeches: using food stamps to buy vodka.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

z_s directed me to this story on On The Media where some 30% of people receiving gov benefits insist that they are not now and have never received any

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

Younger people with kids can just as easily go into the military and actually work for their free society but they wish to complain and do nothing to better their situation.

Just as soon as they find someone well-off and safe and responsible enough to take care of their kids for an unstated number of years. Or, you know, forever.

I can't believe the poor have caused our deficit and crashed the world economy. So sick of those guys.

bnw, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 18:16 (twelve years ago) link

I'll never forget the person who wrote in to Ann Landers complaining about someone s/he saw buying fresh strawberries with food stamps--and everyone who wrote in to reply was in favor of hir position, except for one person who had actually been on welfare. (This was sometime in the early Eighties, BTW.)

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 18:23 (twelve years ago) link

in favor of whose position?

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

the complainer, I assume

a variable (sic) "League of Nations" (DJP), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link

really, if you enough time on your hands to complain that someone on food stamps is eating fresh strawberries, do us all a favor and play in traffic

a variable (sic) "League of Nations" (DJP), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

i basically refused to read that but if ppl are complaining that food stamps are used for fruit/veg then yeah go die in a fire

g++ (gbx), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link

i see a lot of people use EBT cards in the local grocery store but i dont see many buying lobster tails

max, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 22:46 (twelve years ago) link

just...what

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/272224/tactics-vs-strategy-michael-walsh

goole, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link

Unions, federal workers, the media, the professoriat, teachers, trial lawyers, environmentalists, abortion “providers,” even the porn industry (a right regular rogue’s gallery of special interests) will all suffer in the emerging post-Great, Broke Society.

max, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 23:41 (twelve years ago) link

haha what country does michael walsh even live in

max, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 23:42 (twelve years ago) link

Taking Back the Definition

July 20, 2011 7:35 A.M.

By Kathryn Jean Lopez

New Yorkers will be rallying on marriage this weekend.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 13:13 (twelve years ago) link

stay strong, k-lo. In 20 years you'll be seen like the screaming white people in desegregation news clips.

bnw, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/272577/so-we-should-profile-when-it-helps-muslims-andrew-c-mccarthy

in which the Oslo bombing clearly demonstrates that it's a good idea to profile mainstream muslims in the US

I DIED, Saturday, 23 July 2011 01:33 (twelve years ago) link

Steyn and McCarthy are both denying that the Norway attacks had ANYthing to do with Muslims

"Gunplay" (ft. Gunplay) (Andre Gunder Frank 3000), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/272875/gutter-google-bomb-politics-would-be-compliment-kathryn-jean-lopez

:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

J0rdan S., Saturday, 30 July 2011 05:41 (twelve years ago) link

lol dipshit

bnw, Saturday, 30 July 2011 07:30 (twelve years ago) link

This guy is an imbecile. And I agree that "satan sandwich" is a dumb phrase.

“Sugar Coated Satan Sandwiches” — A Dissent

By Jonah Goldberg

While of course I will make reference to the term — it’s news, baby! — I don’t think the phrase is as great as everybody else seems to. You don’t eat Satan, and you don’t coat sandwiches with sugar. I like colorful phrases as much as the next guy, particularly if the next guy likes them a lot, but I think they should have an internal consistency to really work. I’ve been trying to come up with an alternative, but so far they have other problems, too much explanation required, not enough alliteration, etc. Still, a few meager attempts:

Lucifer’s lunch bucket, once you open it, all Hell breaks loose.

Mephistopheles’ M&Ms: candy coating on the outside damnation on the inside.

Pernicious Peanut Butter Cups, tasty chocolate on the without, agony within.

A Satanic Transvestite: looks good until you see what’s under the clothes.

Etc.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 August 2011 14:41 (twelve years ago) link

Jonah Goldberg has, surprisingly, never eaten a Monte Cristo sandwich. Noted and moving on.

Dave Zuul (Phil D.), Monday, 1 August 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link

He's not a cannibal.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 August 2011 14:50 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/273335/obama-and-not-carter-victor-davis-hanson#

what world is this guy in

goole, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

what world is this guy in

Unable to resist, I commented. Guess which I am.

livin in my own private Biden hole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

beare08?

goole, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 15:18 (twelve years ago) link

that's the most annoying part of it, i'm pretty sure "VDH" was alive under Carter. i'll always be stunned by how these guys can't remember anything accurately.

goole, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

But in Obama they had a figure right out of central casting — young, charismatic, non-traditional, ‘post-racial,’ glib, and at times eloquent. So the present mess, unlike that of 1977–80, cannot so easily be attributed to packaging rather than content, a fact which has far more profound consequences to the leftist cause.

lol goole this reminds me of yr thing about conservatives hating obama for fulfilling every stereotype possible of a liberal & still being popular

max, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

Go to hell, Jonah says.

livin in my own private Biden hole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

Pareene has a bit of fun:

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/08/02/birth_control_corner/index.html

Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 20:33 (twelve years ago) link

commenter "bobbytwotimes" OTM

chief content officer (m coleman), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link

pareene is truly the man

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 2 August 2011 20:55 (twelve years ago) link

Love this guy. Obama drinks beer? Of course – Alinksyites don't drink beer. Obama hates asparagus. Naturally – Alinskyites think eating meat is radical.

Obama: Still the Alinksyite

August 3, 2011 1:16 P.M.
By Stanley Kurtz

Here’s my take on the puzzle of Obama’s leadership style. Obama is still every inch the Alinskyite organizer. He talks about uniting, even as he deliberately polarizes. He moves incrementally toward radical left goals, but never owns up to his ideology. Instead, he tries to work indirectly, by way of the constituencies he seeks to manipulate.

“Leading from behind” is classic Alinskyite strategy. The idea is for the organizer to find out what the people he’s organizing want, give them enough of that to gain authority and control, then slowly and quietly push the group in his ideological direction, all the while making it seem as though the plan is what the people themselves have asked for. Obama used to literally lead from behind, by stage-managing his group’s protests from the back of the room, while the ostensible leaders took charge on stage. That is what Alinskyite organizers do.

Alinskyite organizers are tough when facing down the “enemy” (their word), but subtle, stealthy, and incremental when dealing with the members of their own group. Above all, they are never openly ideological. Everything is portrayed as pragmatism.

The trouble with Obama’s Alinskyite leadership style is that he’s trying to adapt it to the presidency, a role it was never designed for. When he tries classic Alinskyite polarization, he’s treating people he’s supposed to be leading as his enemies. When he tries to bring about leftist results under the guise of a neutral pragmatism, he disappoints his base, which desperately wants him to turn his eloquence to the task of persuading the country of their principles.

Obama is a bad negotiator because Alinskyite’s don’t negotiate, they intentionally polarize. As for their own groups, here they try to placate all factions and hide their own goals. That about describes Obama’s performance on the debt deal, which included a dollop of both of these stances.

livin in my own private Biden hole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 17:31 (twelve years ago) link

forget about blogging and publishing books - Kurtz should handwrite this stuff on placards and work the street corners if he wants to reach his real audience

chief content officer (m coleman), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 18:08 (twelve years ago) link

i think how difficult it is to repeatedly focus on + read the word 'alinskyite' is testament to how unsuitable it is to shape some dumbass hypothesis around it

(oboe interlude) (schlump), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 19:39 (twelve years ago) link


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