he ended up there cos of his own boorish negativity, fear, etc...there are hundreds of depressiong reasons why his ability wouldn't matter.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 14 July 2011 21:54 (fourteen years ago)
TBF, he went from jerky okay dude to murderer, which is something beyond superjerk.
― ilx poster and keen dairy observer (Jenny), Thursday, 14 July 2011 22:02 (fourteen years ago)
killing people is pretty jerky.
― karma's ruthless invisible (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 15 July 2011 05:11 (fourteen years ago)
This jerk was just jonesin' for an excuse to kill someone.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 July 2011 12:33 (fourteen years ago)
I dunno I think y'all are letting later events coloring yr perception of walt maybe? he's a tightly wound, testy individual in the first season but it def shows him in a more heroic light (defending his kid in the clothing store, agonizing over killing the meth dealer)
by the end of s3 tho you are like f this guy
― duke of irl (Edward III), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:50 (fourteen years ago)
still think he would have defended his kid in S3, tho he probably would have run the dudes over in his Aztec.
― steady yachting (Pillbox), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:52 (fourteen years ago)
lol
― duke of irl (Edward III), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:53 (fourteen years ago)
Oh that heroic guy, agonizing while bike locking someone.
― Jeff, Friday, 15 July 2011 13:54 (fourteen years ago)
maybe I need to watch that eps again myself but isn't it 45 minutes of walt hemming & hawing until he figures out the guy has armed himself?
― duke of irl (Edward III), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:02 (fourteen years ago)
yes
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Friday, 15 July 2011 16:33 (fourteen years ago)
I always thought the defense of the kid was hardly honorable, more an explosion of his pent of rage and anger. And don't forget, killing that tied up drug dealer came after he a) already killed one of them, b) tried to kill the other one at the same time and c) devised a way to dissolve the dead guy in a bathtub, then cleaned up the gloppy mess. Sure, he hemmed and hawed, but if anything that was out of character. The broken plate thing just made the decision easier for Walt.
Short: my wife and I sort of like the show *because* he's been a dick from the start. There's really not much sympathy for him at all, just the wonder at how far he'll go to feed his pride/greed.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 July 2011 16:38 (fourteen years ago)
Eastbound and Down does this too and I'm starting to connect the two as similar shows.
― generous doler out of lollies (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 16 July 2011 19:36 (fourteen years ago)
Walter was always kind of a jerk, but they really do a lot of get you to sympathize with him in the pilot - I mean, crippled kid, shitty job, shittier second job to make ends meet while he has another kid on the way (most likely an accident, too, considering the age gap), plus cancer. And that birthday handjob... you can see pretty early why he's so bitter, considering his pridefulness. Of course, he still turns out to be a horrible person at the core, anyway.
― Nhex, Saturday, 16 July 2011 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
you still root for him, though, don't you? i do. not necessarily to "succeed" at his plans, but to realize what the hell he's doing, put right the wrongs, tie things up and get the hell out of meth making. if i weren't hoping he'd do these things then i don't know why i'd even watch, despite all the great acting, etc.
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:30 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6763000/bad-decisions
At this point, Walter White could do anything and I would continue to support his cause. In fact, his evolution has been so deft that I feel weird describing his persona as "evil," even though I can't justify why it would be incorrect to do so.
― caek, Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:36 (fourteen years ago)
He's not evil, he's smug and arrogant, almost ubermensch-y. He's above it all morally in a very uncomfortable way. Plus the show gives no indication he's interested in getting out of the meth game at all. Per the aforementioned, he's so arrogant he believes he's the one guy smart enough to get away with it all.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:44 (fourteen years ago)
tracer otm. I don't know what his endgame is but I want him to get there.
― calstars, Sunday, 17 July 2011 01:11 (fourteen years ago)
endgame is him being killed and a big insurance check going to his fam iirc
― generous doler out of lollies (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 17 July 2011 02:37 (fourteen years ago)
season 4: Walt kills chicken guy and takes over the southwest.
season 5: A mysterious man who also claims to be Heisenberg starts recruiting soldiers to take Walt's territory. Walt assumes Jesse is behind it and he kills him. Ends in a bloodbath and Hank has to shoot Walt from his wheelchair.
Final scene: Walt Jr visits his mother in prison. He tells her he loves her, and swears he'll never stop fighting to get her out. He leaves the facility. We see a shot of the sidewalk and one crutch hits the ground, then another. Pan up to see Walt Jr. putting on the black Heisenberg hat, lighting a cigarette, and hopping into a pimped out Aztek. FIN
― Gukbe, Sunday, 17 July 2011 02:44 (fourteen years ago)
― cave duel (latebloomer), Sunday, 17 July 2011 07:53 (fourteen years ago)
hahahahahaha
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 17 July 2011 09:19 (fourteen years ago)
how did you get that script?
― generous doler out of lollies (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 17 July 2011 13:30 (fourteen years ago)
The son is still in the dark, right? Maybe he will come into it this season.
― calstars, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
so pumped for this imo
― Clay, Sunday, 17 July 2011 23:06 (fourteen years ago)
Keep think it's on at 9, then remember it's 10, and I've got an extra hour to burn. :(
― Gukbe, Sunday, 17 July 2011 23:09 (fourteen years ago)
are we spoilering in here? Because WOW WOW WOW....
― writing down my vagina’s sorrows for all the world to see (The Brainwasher), Monday, 18 July 2011 03:10 (fourteen years ago)
that scene in the lab with Gus was incredible - both visually and plot-wise
― writing down my vagina’s sorrows for all the world to see (The Brainwasher), Monday, 18 July 2011 03:11 (fourteen years ago)
have they written out the hispanic guy who drove walt to the plant at the end of s3? maybe he's just not big enough to appear on the poster.
― MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Wednesday, June 22, 2011 3:02 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark
Victor (the Hispanic guy) is still on the show.
― Jouster, Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:57 PM (3 weeks ago)
oops
― duke of irl (Edward III), Monday, 18 July 2011 03:27 (fourteen years ago)
GET BACK TO WORK
― cave duel (latebloomer), Monday, 18 July 2011 03:31 (fourteen years ago)
rough night? Recharge yourself at Denny's.
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 18 July 2011 03:35 (fourteen years ago)
kenny rogers
― duke of irl (Edward III), Monday, 18 July 2011 03:44 (fourteen years ago)
Right as rain
― kornrulez6969, Monday, 18 July 2011 03:45 (fourteen years ago)
loved that the sticker was still on the shirt
― cave duel (latebloomer), Monday, 18 July 2011 03:51 (fourteen years ago)
ketchup
oh man
― iatee, Monday, 18 July 2011 04:08 (fourteen years ago)
have they been getting complaints about the violence? i don't recall a disclaimer before a specific scene before. was kenny rogers a chicken gag? god this show is awesome! .
― keythhtyek, Monday, 18 July 2011 04:11 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, kenny rogers roasters was the first thing I thought ofWell done
― generous doler out of lollies (forksclovetofu), Monday, 18 July 2011 05:02 (fourteen years ago)
I d/led this so I took note of how long it was from Gus's entrance to exit from the lab - ten full minutes. (Amazing sequence - rest of the ep was just OK.)
― THIS IS SATIRE BTW (Simon H.), Monday, 18 July 2011 06:01 (fourteen years ago)
I thought it was a masterpiece. The Gus scene nearly induced a panic attack, everyone involved nailed it 100%. The rest of the ep was totally built around that scene in terms of pacing. My god, what a show.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Monday, 18 July 2011 08:45 (fourteen years ago)
Also great work form Anna Gunn this week.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Monday, 18 July 2011 08:46 (fourteen years ago)
A+ 100% I think we're really getting into some next level tv over the next few months. Thank god this how is back. So perfect and so effortless.
― Clay, Monday, 18 July 2011 09:40 (fourteen years ago)
lol @ hank buying rocks off the internet
― johnny crunch, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:20 (fourteen years ago)
was I the only one who thought maybe he had some sort of obscure work-related reason to be doing that?
― THIS IS SATIRE BTW (Simon H.), Monday, 18 July 2011 13:26 (fourteen years ago)
he's BIDDING on MINERALS.
― kate78, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:14 (fourteen years ago)
96% pure mineralsA GULF
yeah, skyler was in rare form as gangster moll
― generous doler out of lollies (forksclovetofu), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:26 (fourteen years ago)
Wow! The suspense in this episode was unreal. Jesse not say one word until they are cleaning up the mess was great.so crzy that Gale was the one that convinced Gus to hire Walt in the first place.
LAB NOTES
― Aerosol, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:27 (fourteen years ago)
^ i'm wondering if Hank is going to be back with the force in time to get involved in the inevitable investigation into that!
― karma's ruthless invisible (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:30 (fourteen years ago)
i really should have gone back and watched the end of last season because I can't remember WTF was gong on that led them to that place, I only remember the shooting. suppose it doesn't matter now.
― akm, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:56 (fourteen years ago)
we read the wikipedia summary of season 3 like 4 minutes before this ep started
helped a lot...
― iatee, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:57 (fourteen years ago)
yeah I watched the last two eps of s3 recently... not just as a refresher, but also because they're the best 2 hours of entertainment the television medium has produced in recent memory
― duke of irl (Edward III), Monday, 18 July 2011 18:02 (fourteen years ago)
RUN
― duke of irl (Edward III), Monday, 18 July 2011 18:07 (fourteen years ago)