DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived Cleggeron era

The BBC's Laura Kuenssberg reports that David Cameron will not attend the BSkyB debate in the Commons

What a divvy

Is there a legal definition of public interest?

xp - conflict of interest innit.

The laws and guidelines that are in place currently - such as 'no writing about kids', 'no phone hacking', 'no collusion with law enforcement' etc - would be fine if they were ENFORCED.

It is the exceptionalism here that is the problem - the bods at NI were under the impression that they could behave with impunity because the politicians were coming to their summer parties (which one would attend for both the sake of form and also to keep an eye on other attendees but if I were throwing a 'slumber party' a la Sarah Brown I would totally be putting Brooks' hand in warm water as she slept) and the police were, like everything else, apparently for sale.

I would totally be putting Brooks' hand in warm water as she slept

OK, you're going to have to explain this, because i saw this in a episode of Family Guy once and I didn't understand it then either

It's supposed to make you wet yourself

Ah, never heard of it before

Ah, Tom: you never went to an American junior high school, with mean girls.

Guaranteed method for getting the victim to piss themselves.

Hope she's got the electric blanket switched on.

Ah, Tom: you never went to an American junior high school, with mean girls.

It's one of my big regrets in life

the purpose of Murdoch’s BSkyB bid is essentially so that he can set up a UK version of America’s most popular news channel Fox News.

Uh no.

i thought that WAS one of the main objectives?

No 10 says Cameron won't be at debate or vote because he is "too busy". Jesus he really is just hiding from this.

Having expressed my doubts about the future decisions that might be taken with regard to the press and its relationship to the law, to balance that out I merely say Fuck Tha Police. Andy Hayman was described to me, on Monday night, by someone who would know, as being like 'Michael Barrymore on acid'.

― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 10:31 (27 minutes ago) Bookmark

Worst pool party ever.

Last night Cameron apparently promised Miliband he would attend the BSkyB debate in the Commons but has since changed his mind. If I was Ed I wouldn't give him too hard a time, I'd give him a second chance.

Ah, Tom: you never went to an American junior high school, with mean girls.

Guaranteed method for getting the victim to piss themselves.

― rural lidl (suzy), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 10:52 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I believe it to be untrue, fwiw.

ah, looking around, it seems inconclusive either way.

It certainly worked at every slumber party I attended between the ages of 11 and 14! #lightasafeatherstiffasaboard

the purpose of Murdoch’s BSkyB bid is essentially so that he can set up a UK version of America’s most popular news channel Fox News.

Uh no.

i thought that WAS one of the main objectives?

― Dear Projectionist (blueski), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 10:57 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I'm willing to be wrong here but broadcast regulations are totally difft in the UK; you can't be partisan with TV news the way you can in the US. (though with newspapers it's vice versa)

Yes, but I'm sure Jeremy Hunt would have had a look at that. Not now tho I suspect.

the other point is that murdoch was planning to sell off sky news to avoid the plurality issue.

In relation to the information from the Guardian about Coulson hiring Jonathan Rees, Coulson says this was not directly passed on to him. The information was almost the same as the information published in the Guardian in February 2010. A month later Cameron met the editor of the Guardian, Alan Rusbridger, and Rusbridger did not mention it. A year later there was another meeting and it still was not mentioned.

fwiw
seems kinda shameful to make this a 'you told me once why didn't you tell me again' thing at the guardian, particularly as it was kind of a sensitive action to take. this is super frustrating to me. i wonder if there's intended ambiguity/leverage in 'not directly passed on'. it came after a question from EM about whether politicians should be answering questioning under oath.

Miliband says Cameron has made an important admission. If Ed Llewellyn, Cameron's chief of staff, did not pass the information about Jonathan Rees on to Cameron, will be be disciplined?

Cameron says that he could ask questions about Tom Baldwin, the former Times journalist whose conduct has been questioned by Lord Ashcroft. But the public don't want politicians who focus on these matters [...] The public want politicians to focus on the police and the media.

i just cannot understand how he is getting away w/this bullshit it is egregious. as if 'we don't need to interrogate that any further' isn't what this whole thing is about now.

That's not going to work. The meeting where Coulson's transgressions were raised was between Ian Katz and the Llewellyn guy. The question to be asking is why Cameron never raised it with Rusbridger.

well, it seems he's shooting for i was totally insulated; had no cause beyond a tepid q&a on phone-hacking to query coulson's appointment because no warnings to the contrary reached him. part of rusbridger's original claim was that he & many others at fleet street felt compelled to talk to the tories about this - refuting the efficacy of individual lines of contact just seems insane.

eg why would cameron raise it w/rusbridger, in light of the clear skies presented by the possibility of hiring ex-notw editor coulson

So obvious that Little Lord Cameron is just not used to being asked to explain his actions, it's almost like he can't understand why anyone would demand him such a thing of him

Also why should I take notice of any giving me advice?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/11/article-2013310-0CF697B600000578-434_634x436.jpg

the pictures taken by the photographers you see through the window depict the other passenger just screaming. just screaming.

lolvom

There's a lot of photos recently of Uncle Rupert with his personal trainer recently.

Maybe Wendi Deng can comment on the current state of affairs in the Murdoch empire etc.

Let me guess. Female? Blonde? Attractive? Not 80 years old?

Just missed out on a personal trainer job with Colonel Gadaffi?

Labour's David Winnick, a member of the home affairs committee, says he was surprised that the police were having dinner with News of the World when they were investigating it. Cameron says he agrees. He says he watched some of the home affairs committee hearing yesterday and that he found it striking.

uhhhh

Female? Blonde? Attractive? Not 80 years old?

yes, no, slightly, no

It's been over a year. You guys should really start a new thread with a different thread title that doesn't make me want to claw my eyes out.

Don't know how you define blonde then? Unless you know her even better than her employer does (honest). (xp)

shitty uk politics 2011 -> 2095 LONG LIVE CLEGGERON

although it kinda seems hilarious to think of the lib dems getting 'top-line billing' in a description of the govt at this point. maybe inclusion in an ilx thread title could be an achievement, like the excellent work they've been doing on recycling trumpeted on local election flyers.

xxp this coming from the guy who brought us "have you ever distributed an erotic photograph via sexual text messaging?"

It's been over a year. You guys should really start a new thread with a different thread title that doesn't make me want to claw my eyes out.

― kkvgz, 2011年7月13日 星期三 下午10:26 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban

THIS

"have you ever distributed an erotic photograph via sexual text messaging?"

mod req pls merge threads

Was going to hack all yr phones, now soooo glad I didn't

the photos & freezeframes of ed are always just so bad. like you'd think they'd been selectively chosen by the murdoch press, like gordon on the front of today's sun, but they're not. there's a video still on the guardian blog right now that'd make you think he was about to leap over tables and collar DC.

DEM not gonna merge dis erotic photograph : Rolling UK politics in the short-lived sexual text messaging era

Guardian sez bid withdrawn.

i'm surprised The Sun didn't just photoshop horns onto that photo of Brown + halo of flames

even by the standards of the Sun, those seemed low blows. Basically "lol Brown RONG u suck, we may have splashed news of your sick child all over our rag, but we didn't hack your phone", as if that makes it all okay.

Also, the current "Yeah, we said we were a relation of xxx and they Gave us all the bank accounts" seems perfectly alright as well.

So NI has withdrawn its bid for BSkyB