Inception (with implanted spoilers)

ambiguity re: twist isn't all that ambiguous iirc s/thing to do with the top when he's explaining stuff to juno iirc, but i may not rc tbf

if your dreams are consistently insane it's the ones where you drive to work, work, and then drive home that are the scare-the-piss-out ones tbh.

xxpost - I know! All of my dreams are like working at work and driving around and although when waking the dimensions and scenery are a little odd its just a mishmash of various places of lived/worked/studied/etc and pretty boring and sensible.

I don't know what all these pomo Dali-esque dreams are all about, I must be missing out.

the worst dreams are the ones where you drive to work and yr boss is leo dicaprio

it's not that they're all technicolor rainbows and serial killers, it's that they aren't linear or bearing any resemblance to the real world. people's identities shift and change, locations shift and change, there's no real cause and effect happening, my own motivations and goals shift from moment to moment etc.

I dunno about everyone else

xp

nah i'm pretty certain that is standardly the case with dreams

mine are insane because they really ARE like movies in that they are pretty linear and narrative

it's just that the plots usually revolve around things like the statue of liberty coming to life and going on a rampage

my own motivations and goals shift from moment to moment etc.

yeha, this more than anything else.

if inception were true dream style, then leo would have been distracted by a dude he knew in 5th grade passing by and just followed that guy for the nest 90 mins instead, catching up on dude's imaginary news

like, say I'll have the distinct sense that I am stranded in Oakland and need to get home, except the environment I'm in bears no resemblance to anywhere in actual Oakland I have been to, I find a BART station but it doesn't look like any actual real-life BART station, then I see somebody I know and get distracted and we go buy a hot dog or something.

xp

but yeah weird gaps in the "plot" and strange transitions that have a creepy emotional "rightness" but otherwise make no sense seems to be otm to me

it's just that the plots usually revolve around things like the statue of liberty coming to life and going on a rampage

― death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad),

wasn't this a movie tho

a lot of recycled movie plots do feature in my dreams sadly

It's from Inception 2: The Adventure Continues.

my unconscious is apparently a hollywood pitchman who has nothing but a folder full of remakes

i get video game dreams sometimes and the odd comedy movie. have woken myself up laughing at what turned out to be nonsense

have gone to sleep the same way tbh

Yeah that sounds like a dream, shakes -- except, in the dream do you realize that your surroundings are nothing like Oakland or do you only realize that upon waking.... this is important because thats referred to a lot in the movie - ie "dreams only seem strange after you've woken up"...

the reason they put so much effort into the dream worlds, I think, is not to fool the mark but to keep their subconscious away - thats why the architect job is based on one's ability to create good mazes.

(many xposts)

I assume I am in a part of Oakland I've never been to before

the thing about not being able to remember how you got somewhere that they refer to in Inception, that rings true for me.

I'll tell you what doesn't happen in my dreams, car chases and shootouts

xp ^ also how the movie makes it ambiguous whether he's dreaming imo, I like this a lot.

Best dream-state experience description thing I've come across is The Unconsoled by Kazuo Ishiguro.

all the action scenes in my dreams seem to happen "off-screen" so to speak

so do the sex scenes but i'm a little more upset about that

Best dream-state experience description thing I've come across is The Unconsoled by Kazuo Ishiguro.

yeeeeeeesss

to be fair the premise of the film was they were creating dreams mundane enough that the targets thought they weren't dreaming, and the car chase shit mostly happened once they flipped strategies and told dude he was in a dream

The car chase happened because he was trained to ward off dream invaders. Why, you may even think of them as "dream police", if you wish.

still rocked, although I was kind of annoyed that the snow level didn't also get affected by weightlessness (I guess maybe the reasoning would be they were too far down to be affected by it? ie things only transfer down one level; was it raining in the hotel level?)

― HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Tuesday, July 12, 2011 2:07 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

this bothered me to no end. nolan spends all this time describing the pointlessly arcane rules of his dream engineering system, but still leaves big, nonsensical gaps.

Best dream-state experience description thing I've come across is The Unconsoled by Kazuo Ishiguro.

― kinder, Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:09 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

OTM

to be fair the premise of the film was they were creating dreams mundane enough that the targets thought they weren't dreaming

― mh, Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:50 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark

this seemed ridiculous, too, as few people are ever fully aware that they're dreaming while dreaming, no matter how absurd the contents of their dreams.

I notice I'm dreaming all the time!

u should put in on ur cv, highly-desirable trait in a ceo i reckon.

- Full licence
- Self starter
- Difficult to incept

Best dream-state experience description thing I've come across is The Unconsoled by Kazuo Ishiguro.

― kinder, Tuesday, July 12, 2011 11:09 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Yes, really well done but I got bored and couldn't finish it. The bit I liked best was when the protagonist went to the cinema to see 2001 and it stars Clint Eastwood in a cowboy costume.

Lots of Kafka is like those ultra-frustrating eliptical dreams.

After watching Inception - it's time I study more philosophy????????

Dont even know what the title means!!! lol x

Good film, you have to really concentrate though!

Great movie - really gets you thinking. I'm still confused though x

This movie completely revolutionized film and the way we watch film ... for two weeks.

not as much as the matrix did for two weeks tbf

Eh, I think the Matrix held on for a couple of years, or at least until the sequels smothered it.

Sounds too deep for me. I'll stick to chick flicks :-)

Have not watched it...never have been able to understand any of Leonardo De Caprio films.....still trying to understand Shutter Island lol xx

Matrix = stupid fun with Plato and kung fu
Inception = "i thought there was too much kung fu in The Matrix"

Inception = "i thought there was too much kung fu in The Matrix"

And not enough machine gun chases.

Inception was so so dry, like it was so afraid of being a big goofy Hollywood movie that it didn't allow any room for personality or levity (in the dialogue but also in the casting of a bunch of overly serious former child star types). Nolan's Batman flicks imo didn't have that problem and were funny when they needed to be, but man Inception could've actually been such a better movie if they loosened up the slightest bit.

what about all the goofy bits with tom hardy and the wee guy oh yeah the bits that were supposed to be funny are really up tight too

it's like a delicate metaphor about things encapsulated in other things i.e. onions inside of matroyska dolls inside of enigmas wrapped in a calzone, constructed with all the finesse of a drunk line cook frying a wonton in fat rendered from a liposuction bag

Delicious!

still think this movie is pretty fun

Yeah, I thought it was funny and smart.

it's not enough

we need to go deeper