Chicago: They paved a fetid swamp/and put up a parking lot

This is how I feel

I don't paticularly love "Torn", but I wouldn't turn the station if it came on the radio. "Closing Time", however, would probably run screaming from.

The chorus is fun to sing.

You know what terrible song I really like??? Good. As it "whoa oh it was good living with you whoa oh."

That song is super fun to sing.

i associate "good" with "molly" by sponge, which i really like.

That is one I cannot identify by name. Also in the Torn thread ppl talked about a band called "Wheetus" that I could never like because the name sounds like "flatus."

it goes "sixteen candles down the drain" over and over

I associate "good" with Better Than Ezra, "AH-whoa-whoa-wah-huh it was gooooood, goooooood".

it is better than ezra! is that a riddle.

"I will always be weird inside/I will always be lame" is an example when plain spoken, straight forward lyrics fail. Ugh.

OMG yeah I totally misread Jenny's original lyrics to say something else. Carry on.

I was once at a restaurant in Wicker Park with music turned up to the concert levels. At closing time they cut whatever song was playing, put on "Closing Time" and cranked it all the way up. I guess they were trying to be cheeky. The server apologized and cringed and said that was just what they did. And this was a restaurant, not a bar.

No one Chicago is ever cheeky.

some of the bartenders at the place I worked in college would play "Closing Time" at obnoxious levels when they wanted people to leave, and then wondered why they never got tips

it was either that or they'd play "Here I Go Again On My Own"

Charlie Trotter's stopped doing that a while back.

Wouldn't that be something? If Charlie Trotters blared Closing Time?

some of the bartenders at the place I worked in college would play "Closing Time" at obnoxious levels when they wanted people to leave, and then wondered why they never got tips

This is why I hate this song so much. When it was inescapable, every bar in college played this every single night and it was so annoying.

guys I know it's a stretch but if anyone is interested the Fire game tonight is free admission and free parking because the stadium lost power in the storm yesterday

the downside is it's at 5PM instead of 7:30

No one Chicago is ever cheeky.

http://cheekychicago.com/

I thought you guys were dissing Wicked Game and I was all OMG WTF LOL. I dont know what Foolish Games is.

Oh yes, that Eric and Kathy, they are SOOOO cheeky.

I thought you guys were dissing Wicked Game and I was all OMG WTF LOL. I dont know what Foolish Games is.

I didn't either but it's the Jewel song that goes "these foolish games are tearing us apart/these foolish games are breaking my heart" or something like that.

It's really hideous.

Wicked Game is awesome. Also fun to sing.

I have listened to a Jewel CD on repeat during a break-up.

I really like the lines in "You Were Meant For Me" (?) that go "Wipe the spots off the mirror/Don't leave my keys in the door/Never leave white towels/On the floor anymore cuz/I know that you love me and sooooooon I know you will see/You were meant for me/And I was meant for you;booohooooiu;oasdif;booooooohhooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo"

It's such a great representation of desperate bargaining to save a relationship."

Hate. That. Song. So. Much.

Choose: You were meant for me or "Well, you're a crazy bitch, but I think I'm on top of it, fucking you all night, scratches all down my back you keep me right on."

Okay, I really hate to be one of those people who posts funny/cute things kids say on the internet, but last night we were visiting with friends of ours whose two-year old is our god-daughter. She looked at my wife and asked why her belly was so big, when her mom told her it was because she is going to have a baby, the 2-year old cocked her head, thought for a little bit, then said, "baby stuck in there?".

You are one of those people now.

I am hanging my head in shame and fervently wishing for a "delete post" button on ilx.

That is pretty cute.

K8E said her BF's toddler nephew learned about lightening bugs, but he got mixed up and called them thunder bees.

"Thunder bees" are pretty awesome!

It's such a great representation of desperate bargaining to save a relationship."

So is torn, but apparently with life-or-death stakes!

Truthfully, I like Jewel's guitar songs and can't stand her piano songs.

But Jewel shows how mundane, quotidian things and actions become unbearably full of meaning. She was probably rolling around naked on the floor too, but the words broken, naked, cold, even "torn," are too easy. Jewel uses imagery to show how she's broken. It's that "show, don't tell" thing, I guess.

I just listened to You Were Meant for Me again and I remembered it wrong. Jewel's character is living in a new place after a loss and having that feeling expecting the other person to be there.

The character behaves as though the other person is still there, like how after cutting off long hair, you still reach for it. E.g., putting the cap back on the toothpaste, "I know you hate it when I leave the lights on", picking up a cup.

Anyway, I'll cop to loving that song and getting a little choked up at it still.

Also, Fast Car.

perhaps you meant the band known as Fastball.

This is the Jewel song I rep for:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH1jX974aGk

But Jewel shows how mundane, quotidian things and actions become unbearably full of meaning.

Rejoining this conversation and forgetting what came before, I thought for a second that you meant the supermarket.

The audio on this version is better, the lyrics a little clearer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLlOh-qj1LY

Good lyrics. I hadn't heard it before.

I tried to post the Snoop Dog smdh gif but that's too hard on a phone so just know that I am smdh at you.

SMDH

Jewel might not be "cool" or "hep" like Snoopy Dog or other rap musicians that you listen to, but you can understand her words and the songs are pretty and not dirty.

Jesus Christ! Jenny otm -- I can't leave you guys for 5 min before you start waxing poetic about Jewel. JEWEL! Smdh indeed.

Jesse I got your back, I like a few select Jewel songs. As far as 90s neo-folkie girls go, she's not as bad as her reputation might suggest. When she decided to turn into a genre-hopping whore though (electropop this album! now country!), that's where I got off the train.

I also used to LOVE Torrid Anus. I still think that Little Earthquakes and Under the Pink are incredible, both lyrically and musically.

Torn Anus

Tori Amos is light years better than Jewel just by virtue of actually being interesting, and I am pretty ambivalent about TA (I quite like Under the Pink, have never really listened to anything else).

It's not Jewel's reputation that I find objectionable. It's her insipid songwriting.

I always liked the Jawbox version of "Cornflake Girl".