Chicago: They paved a fetid swamp/and put up a parking lot

That song and "I Hope You Dance" make me want to eat a bullet. I Hope You Dance is worse, though.

I think I'm done hating for now. I'm a man of strong passions.

This is my safe space where I am humored.

I'm ready to do a thesis on "Torn."

But then I kinda like "I Hope You Dance," too. It's OK, Jesse--it's like being tolerant of different religions. We can still get along.

But Eric, I am being intolerant.

I will say for "Torn": I really like the line "That's what's going on." Maybe we've talked about this before? I love super ordinary lines like that that somehow mean more than they should.

Yes, yes, like "I never learn" in G'n'R's "Night Train."

When I think about music of the last decade that I hate, I think of two songs: Torn and the one about "Feel the rain on your skin (no one else can feel it for you)."

Wait, Torn is older than a decade, isn't it? Whatever. It's still a terrible song.

has anyone made a joke about an "imbruglia imbroglio" on that thread yet?

I like "Torn" because it reminds me of being 13 and paying attention to the radio for the first time, though I agree that it's dumb. That "feel the rain on your skin" is much more indefensible because of how fucking UBIQUITOUS it was (and probably still is on ads for female shaving products, I don't know).

I started to but decided against it, so probably yes.

When I think about music of the last decade that I hate, I think of two songs: Torn and the one about "Feel the rain on your skin (no one else can feel it for you)."

Jawohl. Just terrible. The summer this song was huge, I drove from NOLA to Chicago twice with limited CDs and it was everywhere on the radio. And Courtney and I drove from NC here with no CDs.

Xp yes

I associate it with hair dye commercials.

I don't care, I have no luck, I don't really give a fuck miss it all that much

kitty just climbed up my leg using her claws. I'm wearing shorts.

Kittens will do that.

Kittens are sharp.

B-b-b-but no else else can feel the rain on your skin!

"Feel the claws in your skin (no one else can feel them for you)"

:D

I can't believe that people of my generation tolerate, much less love, that song.

I like "Torn" quite a bit.

That "feel the rain on your skin" is much more indefensible because of how fucking UBIQUITOUS it was (and probably still is on ads for female shaving products, I don't know).

Natasha Bedingfield's "Unwritten"? I kinda don't mind it. I feel like there aren't a whole lot of songs like that on the radio anymore.

probably because every song on the radio now is by nicki minaj

Is "Foolish Games" somehow less annoying than "Torn"? I mean, the character in "Torn" annoys me (especially if the guy is just running a little late for their dinner and she's getting dramatic about it), but that's like being annoyed by Holden Caufield.

I don't mind Foolish Games. It's never made me ill the way Torn, et al. have. None of Jewel has, surprisingly. I get that the "you" person is a little late and it's causing her to wig out and the basis of the song is her melodrama, which is not all bad on its own, but it's that combined with the bland and undramatic and beige tune.

I actually have no idea what "Torn" is about -- no surprise there -- but I like the tune. It's super-conventional/formulaic, but it totally works for me.

I seem to remember that there are folks that like cute baby animal pictures here - enjoy: http://www.oddee.com/item_97809.aspx

I am in the most beauuuutiful place, more on that later, but Torn sucks because it's like a 90s pantomime or parody or whatever word I'm looking for-- from the blandness to the haircut to the sloppy clothes. Torn = 90s like Rent = NYC ok back to my medieval paradise laterz.

Yay! I'm happy for you, Mandina.

<3 Fennez fox.

We have a case before a state court judge with the terrifying name Dr3ll@ S@v@ge.

<3 Fennez fox.

Coincidental typo, since I was just listening to Fennesz's Endless Summer on the train.

Foolish Games is a TERRIBLE song. It's better than the one where Jewel putters around in her kitchen making breakfast, though. But that is like saying eating one cockroach is better than eating two cockroaches.

Reading through the Torn thread, and even with my admitted affection for some terrible songs (DO YOU WANNA DIEEEE??), aerosmith is OTM. Though I admit that I cam only ID about half of the songs by name. And I kind of like Closing Time. ;_;

I got bored in the thread and don't feel like reading enough of it to justify posting but I do want to point out that long-time favorite target of Jesse and my scorn and ire, Father of Mine, is of the same era as Torn.

Torn is about an asshole who needs to get off the floor, put some clothes on, and go take a damn walk.

yeah that song is so irritating

you're cold because you're not wearing any clothes

at first I thought "Torn" was about rough sex

xp YES. I have similar feelings of judgment and derision of Father of Mine. Just shut up about your daddy issues, you whiny butthead. Nobody cares that you'll always be weird!

Note: this criticism is coming from someone who sincerely likes the song Santa Monica.

Dan. Gross.

it's hard for me to reconcile the Natalie Imbruglia of "Torn" with the Natalie Imbruglia of Neighbours, the latter being subject of much teenage lust from most male members of my year 9 class in Australia

people need to start calling other people buttheads again

I can't think of what any one of these songs sound like. Even though I'm sure I've heard them.

I'm all outta faith

This is how I feel

I don't paticularly love "Torn", but I wouldn't turn the station if it came on the radio. "Closing Time", however, would probably run screaming from.

The chorus is fun to sing.

You know what terrible song I really like??? Good. As it "whoa oh it was good living with you whoa oh."

That song is super fun to sing.

i associate "good" with "molly" by sponge, which i really like.

That is one I cannot identify by name. Also in the Torn thread ppl talked about a band called "Wheetus" that I could never like because the name sounds like "flatus."

it goes "sixteen candles down the drain" over and over

I associate "good" with Better Than Ezra, "AH-whoa-whoa-wah-huh it was gooooood, goooooood".

it is better than ezra! is that a riddle.

"I will always be weird inside/I will always be lame" is an example when plain spoken, straight forward lyrics fail. Ugh.