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"Don't you EVER forget about me!" *fires gun*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

some friends of mine in college were talking a "topics in directorial approaches" class or something, and an assignment was to do a treatment of a "scorsese western." which seems to take auterism to a whole new asinine level, but the results were kind of interesting nonetheless.


amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I wholeheartedly recommend Joe Queenan's If You're Talking To Me, Your Career Must Be In Trouble and Confessions of a Cineplex Heckler to everyone here. Excerpts from the index should explain why.

"DeNiro
appropriate casting as character named Noodles, 76
first Spanish conquistador with Mott Street accent, 130-131
and Mickey Rourke, 72
and seal of confession, 58
and slime, 72
and slugs, 72
hair in Cape Fear resembling rat marinated in Vaseline, 148

Dunne, Griffin
traumatized by Joni Mitchell music, 142

Mastrantonio, Mary Elizabeth
influence of Pam Grier on, 38

Pacino, Al
trouble pronouncing the word "shit," 36

Scorcese, Martin
surprising ability to keep getting dates, 139"

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

poor scorsese, forever stereotyped on the basis of his gangster melodramas.

amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

he only REALLY made one

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, we could talk about Bringing Out the Dead if you like.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

can we not please?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG that movie was so boring.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

From Mott Street, an unproduced Paul Schrader screenplay (acc. to Queenan):

A mook and a palook a are playing nine-ball for $1.69 a game in a dingy Little Italy social club. Suddenly a blonde named Carmella dressed all in white (camouflaging the semen on her skirt) gets out of a big yellow taxi and drops a rosary on the ground. As an aria from Donizetti wells up in the background, switch to an overhead shot of a wise guy firing five bullets, four of which miss, into the mook's neck, while three old men named Tommy holler "Yo, Mikey, whatsa matter with you?" The film now fades from color to black and white, save for the huge red neon light in the distance reading "JESUS SAVES."
"Hey Joey, didn't you used to be somebody?" the vamp asks the wounded man.
"No, that was my brother, Vinnie," he replies.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

there's a film that was quickly forgotten. i thought it had some good stuff in it, and some fucking horrible stuff, like self-parody bad.

amateur!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

That was Nic Cage's attempt at penance for starring in Con Air, right?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

miccio these jokes are tired and dumb thx.

amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

well, yeah, anybody who can earnestly say "poor Scorcese" would think that.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:52 (twenty-one years ago)

dude it's a figure of speech

amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Casino is Scorsese's western!

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

and I loved Bringing Out the Dead =/

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

CON AIR IS BETTER THAN BRINGING OUT THE DEAD.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

THE ROCK

TOMBOT, Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

CON AIR IS BETTER THAN BRINGING OUT THE DEAD.

well there goes all desire to check THAT scorcese flick out

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

The Color of Money is my favorite Scorsese movie from the eighties. Paul Newman's wonderful, Tom Cruise makes the dumb punk role work for him, Forrest Whittaker is sublime in his cameo, and "It's In the Way That You Use It" is definitely one of the better songs that Eric Clapton did in that decade.

Some of you are starting to sound like Jimmy Two-Times, "Mean Streets is so camp, Mean Streets is so camp..."

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

scorsese

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Pointing out typos on a message board is soooooooo camp, RJ.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Mean Streets, but more as an interesting warm up to what came later. It never occurred to me that people might think of it as some kind of masterpiece (I haven't seen it for years though, maybe I should).

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not perfect, but no Scorcese film is. There's just more in it that I really like than in most of his stuff.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

goodfellas is my favorite gangster movie evah. i prefer it to any of the godfathers.

and it's definitely my favorite scorcese film.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

scorsese

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

The spelling of Scorsese's name is a bit weird when you look at it repeatedly. The repeated "se" at the end is kind of like a typographical stutter. Actually it reminds me of the "organizized" joke in Taxi Driver - in fact, is that line perhaps an oblique directorial self-reference?

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

haha holy shit "scorsese". just looked it up. sonuva bitch

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

but who the hell really slices garlic that thin? spicey fucking meatball!

kephm, Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

'Sympathetic characters'

yes.

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I actively dislike Goodfellas and don't especially like Scorsese generally, though Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy are ok and the Jesus movie is interesting (and maybe I like his part of New York Stories - I don't remember - and I really like The Last Waltz, but that has more to do with the music and the cameramen). Would New York, New York be worth watching?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

WAIT. I was right. I NEVER MAKE TYPOS ON THE INTERNET.

Scorsese, Scorsese, Scorsese.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

who's camp, now?

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.juggling.org/movies/Pics/Jane_Austins_Mafia.jpg

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

New York, New York is really, really interesting but I can't say its actually successful.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

color of money is indeed pretty great

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)

hey i gotta question, maybe someone can answer it. what's up with henry hill? he appears on the dvd, he was at the disc launch, he seems pretty much out and about these days--isn't there still a price on his head? is he still in the "program"? what's up with that?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Bringing out the Dead is awesome. Or it was the one time I saw it. I should see it again! It felt fantastically claustrophobic and mood-driven, like Von Trier's Kingdom except moreso and less spooky. I totally identified with it.

Color of Money was good too, but didn't have the same d-d-damn impact on me.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Color of Money is so pathetic compared to The Hustler that it just hurts me to think about it.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not that bad! But it has no ending, which is pretty frustrating. What's the stylistic point in spending 20 minutes setting up a final pool showdown, and then not showing us the showdown? Newmanus interruptus.

Harold Media (kenan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

s1ocki, I ask myself that question constantly. Tom summed it up for me as such that the program people can only do so much, if the dude wants to keep making an ass out of himself, they aren't going to go above and beyond to prevent him from doing so. As for him going ahead and doing it, that's just him, glamour-luvvin' dickhead.

OTOH I mean the facct that he is pretty famous now makes him kind of a bad target to go and whack because there will be so much publicity.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah! but you figure maybe some low-level gangster would go ahead and do it for the status points or something. i mean i know he's allowed to do whatever he wants, my question is why hasn't anyone killed him yet?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

it's funnier to let him make a dick of himself on Howard Stern once a week?

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

he has a website!!

http://www.goodfellahenry.com/

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Henry Hill is the author of The WISEGUY COOKBOOK, A GOODFELLA'S GUIDE TO NEW YORK, and GANGSTERS & GOODFELLAS.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I like how the subtitle to the book the film was based on includes the phrase "Life on the Run". I think Henry is confused as to what that actually entails, ie not multiple books, film consulting, photos of yourself on the internet, and calling Howard Stern daily.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I bet he owns a t-shirt that says "I'M HENRY HILL" on it.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

this guy REALLY shouldn't be too hard to track down

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I think they just stopped caring, they probably all think the movie was awesome.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I was going to say that, too. Goodfellas is part of ganster mythology now. And besides, didn't he send all his enemies to prison, anyway?

Harold Media (kenan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)


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