DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived Cleggeron era

mcmullan kinda sad but mostly despicable. TV should probably end its codependent relationship with him.

mcmullan feels like someone a twitter version of someone committing suicide by cop at this stage. i wasn't kidding when i said he seemed like a sociopath.

i don't disagree and

xpost i think we just saw that happen.

he also sounds like someone with an IQ of about 80 but an unusually good vocabulary

more of an addict's mentality imo - he's just doing whatever it takes for the appearance fee.

surely he doesn't get paid to be on newsnight?

not sure? i think you can, think it's seen more like paying for an op-ed than paying for a news story. don't really believe he'd do it otherwise, but i was thinking about how he seems to have been everywhere atm. i worry about his pub customers, dying of thirst.

you'd think not. there really does seem to be something disturbingly masochistic about each of his appearances, or maybe they're more akin to self-harming?

either way, he's nothing. steve coogan otoh speaks like he's crusading on behalf of the moral welfare of all of us, when all that really lies behind his outrage is his own phone being accessed and hacks appearing on his doorstep.

Isn't that enough?

tbh prefer comedian who has seen better days speaking like he's crusading on behalf of the moral welfare of all of us than a pox-ridden psychotic ex-hack attempting same

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xxpost

maybe but "I hate you for the single crime you committed against me" is very different to "I hate your culture which has corrupted society".

or maybe i just hate steve coogan.

Contributors to Newsnight are paid around £150 (plus the taxi there and back).

I'd happily do it for that. I don't get to ride in taxis very often.

that should get him through til tomorrow afternoon

hope he doesn't say who he is cuz the cab driver hivemind is feeling ill disposed to news international atm going by the last couple of taxis i got

And the Sun cuts right to the chase again oh look what's that in the corner...

The alleged deletion has caused tension between News International and Scotland Yard, who are also angry over recent leaks. When the Murdoch company handed over evidence of their journalists' involvement in bribing police officers in late June, they wanted to make a public announcement, claiming credit for their assistance to police.

srsly

To be fair to the Sun, as rapt as I've been by all of this, I actually agree that it's time for the media to take its head out of its arse and start reporting on, y'know, news.

Not that that's the Sun's motivation, obv, but still.

no....

a massive conspiracy between the police, media, and politicians? yeah, we should probably move on to the real "news".

/icke

The Star knows what the important stories are (and deploys a pun they've presumably been sitting on forever): http://twitpic.com/5n60fd

Nice one, Joe. What I'm saying is there IS other stuff going on and that much as we might like to think otherwise, this is really just our equivalent of Cheryl Cole losing her job on X Factor USA. I agree that to an extent it IS news in a real sense, but it's also very very sexy and that's why this thread has nearly 1000 posts in two days.

this is really just our equivalent of Cheryl Cole losing her job on X Factor USA

not really, unless cheryl cole was operating an enormous criminal conspiracy to invade the private lives of thousands of people. and was appointed as the prime minister's director of communications. and bribed police officers. and obstructed murder investigations. really don't see how anyone could regard this as a sideshow.

aye, basically that's the post before yours is one of the worst i've read in a good while.

my language skills are also pretty suspect.

This story has not yet stopped unravelling.

Usually, something happens, then a lot of people pop up on News24 to give their opinions over and over, and the same thing gets repeated again.

Whereas, so much has happened, will happen, and no-one's quite sure what will happen next.

yeah, i'm moderately drunk and will admit to being prone to exaggeration but, while at risk of digging a bigger hole for myself, I'm not gonna distance myself entirely from that post. As I said, I DO think this is a big deal but it's not 9/11 and I just don't think it's warranted 100% of our attention and this scale of coverage for the last week and as long as it's going to go on for.

my language skills are also pretty suspect.

There are people taking to the streets against Murdoch right now.

Well, not now, it's 12:53 at night...

There's a (pretty f. slim but non-zero) chance it could bring down the PM and force Murdoch out of owning any part of BSkyB. It could/will also expose a shitload of corrupt cops in the Met. And it closed one of the world's biggest and oldest newspapers overnight. I reckon the coverage isn't wildly out of proportion, there.

quite.

he also sounds like someone with an IQ of about 80 but an unusually good vocabulary

― caek,

reminds me of a website i browse fttt, if i think through unkind filters

btw agree with ^211, this shit is like catnip to british ilxia, the majority of whom are far more interested in the print media than is the norm- coverage in the media itself is also incestuously far out of proportion to the public interest, even if elements such as police bribery are in the actual 'public interest'

xpost i'm not gonna try and argue my point further but i think we can respectfully disagree.

this pretty much explains McMullen, I think. grim listening.

thanks darragh, for making my point better than I did. to think this all stemmed from my thinking that a 20% increase in people's electricity bills is not nothing.

ya i'm habign a 10 min window of lucidity i think, seemed a shame to waste it completely

It's been pretty much pegged at the top of BBC's "most read/shared" these past few days as well. Not representative of the entire public maybe, but over the years that's been a not-bad guide to what people who're interested in news are interested in, imo.

(catnip to us otm tho. also point about gas bills.)

yeah, granted, it's a big 'news' story alright, but i dunno if ppl are all that interested in news about newspapers. too much more of that and average joe (not our joe, obv) starts hearing the inception dumdumdumdumWAAAAH in his head

me included, like.

i'm not very interested in the pres, but this seems a bit, then again i am a sort of political extremist and anything that sullies tories, labour, NI at the one go is like catnip to me.

press, fuck.

it's not really a story about the media, it's the country's biggest crime story. which was historically the news of the world's first priority.

anything that sullies tories, labour, NI at the one go is like catnip to me

well yeah not for a second suggesting there's not other angles or that it's a small story or anything

dunno what i was saying, apart from agreeing with n1ck a bit tbh

i can't post, since i seem to be missing full words.

basically it is unveiling, to an extent, years of absolute corruption and lawbreaking amongst the most horrific respectable sections of society, press, politicians, and polis.

phone hacking, no matter how widespread, isn't ever going to be the 'biggest crime story' in britain imo- nobody got hit with a brick or had a window broken by youths, if it weren't for the forces/murder victims being a part of it i doubt it would even have been enough for the advertisiers to pull out

i'm not very interested in the pres, but this seems a bit, then again i am a sort of political extremist and anything that sullies tories, labour, NI at the one go is like catnip to me.

and I'm exactly the same. i understand the story and its actual importance, i just think it's important to acknowledge our motivations (and the fact that they might not be the same as those of the general public) when we throw ourselves into a story like this.

xp i mean obviously i can't back that up but i feel vv strongly about this, between sandwiches