DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived Cleggeron era

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See, Yesterday we were all expecting "actions", but nothing really happened.

Until the newspaper closedown.

Mark G, Friday, 8 July 2011 10:53 (fourteen years ago)

i think that he's explicitly voiced opposition to murdoch in the commons

Which no Labour leader has done since Neil Kinnock btw... according to Andrew Neil on This Week

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 8 July 2011 10:55 (fourteen years ago)

kirsty walk pursued this last night, paralysing ed, asking why some deputy had sent out a gross e-mail to lab back benchers asking that they refrain from going to town on NI, and associating bskyb w/hacking, why ed hadn't been quicker or cornered murdoch at a party, etc.

yes, and i think any sort of politician better than "OK" could have turned these questions around quite easily instead of looking like a shifty-faced weasel caught out in a lie.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Friday, 8 July 2011 10:59 (fourteen years ago)

a shifty-faced weasel caught out in a lie

In OED under 'politician'

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 8 July 2011 11:01 (fourteen years ago)

arggh you know what was killing me was that he kept repeating that he'd "learned lessons" and i just wanted k. wark to say "WHAT LESSONS DID YOU LEARN"

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Friday, 8 July 2011 11:05 (fourteen years ago)

He said we've all learned lessons

There is power in an onion (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 8 July 2011 11:08 (fourteen years ago)

well that can't be denied.

Neil S, Friday, 8 July 2011 11:08 (fourteen years ago)

What lessons have we all learned?

Mark G, Friday, 8 July 2011 11:09 (fourteen years ago)

I didn't see this, so maybe my opinion would be different if I had, given that Kirsty Wark is just a slighly upmarket Lorraine Kelly i'd be worried if she gave any interviewee any problems

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 8 July 2011 11:10 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQQdSwFgSec

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Friday, 8 July 2011 11:13 (fourteen years ago)

the question about the party e.mili was at with rupert murdoch a week ago was an ice cold killer and he had zero response for it

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Friday, 8 July 2011 11:20 (fourteen years ago)

word

Genre Fiction › Men's Adventure (schlump), Friday, 8 July 2011 11:26 (fourteen years ago)

Clive Goodman re-arrested. He's been a very bad boy.

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 8 July 2011 11:52 (fourteen years ago)

Ofcom to rule on News Corp's 'fitness' to own BSkyB. I'm 'minded' to flick the V's and go nah-nah-nah in Jeremy Hunt's face.

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 8 July 2011 13:20 (fourteen years ago)

lol pcc

stet, Friday, 8 July 2011 13:29 (fourteen years ago)

it's not the crime that gets you, it's the cover up

joe, Friday, 8 July 2011 13:34 (fourteen years ago)

you guys shouldve made hugh grant the labour leader

☂ (max), Friday, 8 July 2011 13:40 (fourteen years ago)

It could happen.

Mark G, Friday, 8 July 2011 13:40 (fourteen years ago)

"The 2017 bilateral agreement between PM Grant and President Franken heralds in a new era of actorly experience."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 July 2011 13:41 (fourteen years ago)

was hugh grant one of blair's babes? i can't remember now.

caek, Friday, 8 July 2011 13:42 (fourteen years ago)

http://keeptonyblairforpm.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/blairsbabeswithtb_may1997.jpg?w=416&h=200

Dunno, check the pic!

Mark G, Friday, 8 July 2011 13:43 (fourteen years ago)

I find the article joe linked of deep interest because it suggests why this all came about when it did over the past week. I've been wondering this whole time exactly why Murdoch and co. were assiduously interested in shooting themselves in the foot several times over and it sounds like they had this one general plan that they assumed would naturally play out as they wanted it. Which seems pretty stupid.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 July 2011 13:45 (fourteen years ago)

Meanwhile:

2.31pm: BBC Radio Five Live is reporting that the offices of the Daily Star have been raided by police.
We have no confirmation of this at present.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 July 2011 13:54 (fourteen years ago)

Would much rather those E*L supporting bastards at the Star went down than the NotW.

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Friday, 8 July 2011 13:57 (fourteen years ago)

if you only count people who can read, doesn't the star have like 15 readers?

caek, Friday, 8 July 2011 13:58 (fourteen years ago)

the star won't be caught up in this, richard desmond can't pay journalists let alone police. it's just because goodman ended up on their sunday edition.

prescott makes a good point: email deletion took place in january this year - must relate to current NI execs, so that will really fuck up the bskyb bid.

joe, Friday, 8 July 2011 14:04 (fourteen years ago)

And leave it to NMA!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGegvzU9S8U

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 July 2011 14:13 (fourteen years ago)

Hmm. Outlier or tipping point?:

In a statement today, Renault said: "As a result of the seriousness of the continued allegations of phone hacking by News of the World, Renault is reviewing its media advertising plans.

"Pending the formal investigations, we currently have no advertising planned in any News International press titles in the immediate future."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 July 2011 14:25 (fourteen years ago)

Meantime, great:

Borkowski added that the newspaper’s closure will start one of the ‘biggest changes in the media ever’.

‘This is bigger that the Murdoch moving his staff out of Fleet Street. If this can happen, who knows what else can happen? I think there’s a tsunami coming – you’re going to see a flood of journalists into PR for one thing.

‘It puts a huge amount of power into the hands of PR people. It’s a massive opportunity for PR to get it wrong or get it right. It’s a seismic shift of power to the PR world.’

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 July 2011 14:28 (fourteen years ago)

This is the story that just keeps giving

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 8 July 2011 14:29 (fourteen years ago)

xp PR people think everything is a victory for PR.

joe, Friday, 8 July 2011 14:30 (fourteen years ago)

Not sure how victorious ex-PR man David Cameron is feeling right now

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 8 July 2011 14:32 (fourteen years ago)

can i just say, i'm having a lovely time!

― caek, Thursday, July 7, 2011 5:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

caek, Friday, 8 July 2011 14:32 (fourteen years ago)

xpost -- he's probably thinking that's a better career choice for him now.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 July 2011 14:34 (fourteen years ago)

Meantime Brooks supposedly meeting with News of the World staff in half an hour for tea and crumpets or whatever it is they do when they talk about how they're out of the job in two days except for her.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 July 2011 14:35 (fourteen years ago)

and the notw staff have been drinking all afternoon since they got locked out of the email system.

can i just say, i'm having a lovely time!

― caek, Thursday, July 7, 2011 5:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm!

joe, Friday, 8 July 2011 14:37 (fourteen years ago)

Launching a recruitment drive for the Sun on Sunday perhaps? (xp)

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 8 July 2011 14:39 (fourteen years ago)

"On a more positive note the good news is I’ve been promoted - so every cloud… you’re still thinking about the bad news aren’t you?"

Dear Projectionist (blueski), Friday, 8 July 2011 14:42 (fourteen years ago)

xxpost -- ah right, so she can delete that as well.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 July 2011 14:44 (fourteen years ago)

locked out of the email system

shred shred shred magnetize magnetize

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Friday, 8 July 2011 14:46 (fourteen years ago)

Follow this, meanwhile:

https://twitter.com/ExNOTWJourno

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 July 2011 14:46 (fourteen years ago)

shred shred shred magnetize magnetize

Based on the Guardian story wouldn't that hurt more than help anyway? Seemed like it was a pretty public indication that:

*) the police know full well who the exec in question is

*) they don't care about that circulating

"Oh and in response to that you did that as well. Good job."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 July 2011 14:47 (fourteen years ago)

Ofcom's full letter

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 July 2011 14:48 (fourteen years ago)

Facebook note from ExNOTWJourno

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 July 2011 14:49 (fourteen years ago)

Hmm:

ExNOTWJourno
Vibe I'm getting is she'll resign. More as I get it.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 July 2011 14:51 (fourteen years ago)

lol at the barrage of unsympathetic comments

Dear Projectionist (blueski), Friday, 8 July 2011 14:52 (fourteen years ago)

Via the Guardian liveblog, where I'm obviously getting a lot of this:

Former Met police chief Brian Paddick has told my colleague Vikram Dodd it is now "blindingly obvious" that police would want to arrest and interview Rebekah Brooks, the controversial boss of News International.

Paddick said: "If Andy Coulson has been arrested, it is inevitable that Rebekah Brooks will get an invitation from the police that she can not refuse."

Brooks was editor of the News of the World at the time Milly Dowler's phone was hacked, which she denies any knowledge of. She also told a committee in MPs that police had been paid for stories, but later said she had no knowledge of specific incidents.

Paddick added: "I can't understand how a thorough police investigation that would arrest Andy Coulson and not arrest Rebekah Brooks." The former Met deputy assistant commissioner believes his phone was hacked into by the News of the World.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 July 2011 14:53 (fourteen years ago)

fyi ned, what paddick says is not worthless, but he's not a totally disinterested (or these days even particularly well informed) police source.

caek, Friday, 8 July 2011 14:54 (fourteen years ago)

So I figured (given both his status and the last part of the quote there).

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 July 2011 14:55 (fourteen years ago)

yup

caek, Friday, 8 July 2011 14:56 (fourteen years ago)


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