DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived Cleggeron era

can't believe i missed the wark/e-mili thing, those were the minutes i was being deafened by QT

hugh grant is the new joanna lumley

did not know the notw was the biggest selling english language newspaper in the world. guess it's not that surprising.

incidentally, this isn't strictly speaking the right thread but it feels appropriate that it happened today: guess who's on twitter now! http://twitter.com/marinahyde

wish i'd watched grant being a national treasure on qt instead of milliband being a national wet rag on nn.

Who has been in bed with NI in more ways than one.
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xxxp supposedly the most read. the times of india claims over 3m copies a day sold - i think the notw claim is based on some bogus "readership" figure, with several people reading each copy.

Who has been in bed with NI in more ways than one.

the kind of comment that makes me realise once again how necessary it is for feminists to yell at people

xps - I thought it was the Times of India?

Sorry missed joe's post. What he said.

having max clifford as yr character witness is probably nagl right now

readership's not a totally bogus figure -- it's way better than TV audience figures at least. NoTW's readership was massive. 7.4m in total, 3m ABC1.

@lex - to work for the Sun may be regarded as misfortune; to shag Piers Morgan looks like carelessness.

what a trite observation

in basically 100% of cases, though, it holds true that when a dude automatically judges a woman primarily on her sexual partners, it tells us more about him than her

in this case it's such a bloody overdone observation to point out that she once shagged piers morgan, i mean how many years is it now?

xps I can't believe that 'several' people don't read copies of the Times of India.

Yeah, Times of India is bigger. I think NoTW used to be, back when circ was 4m+. Those numbers are kinda staggering, still. It was bigger than NYTimes + USA Today put together.

assuming Murdoch had a choice who to throw under the bus, why coulson over brooks/wade?

Because Brooks is the last barrier before you get to James. If shuttering Screws doesn't work, which it hasn't, he needs to be able to throw a final sacrifice on the pile to say "look, now it's *really* all over".

By keeping Brooks despite all the calls for her head, he makes her ultimately going a much bigger deal.

Already out of NI. xpost

Gotta love hate Piers Morgan.
http://twitter.com/#!/piersmorgan/statuses/89092189711368192

piers morgan edited the mirror at the time it was the no2 newspaper for using private detectives convicted of illegally obtaining private information. wonder what his agenda is?

Stay in America as long as possible hopefully? Sorry, America.

well, i'm hoping we can extradite him at some point.

maybe piers should hold off his bid for "world's worst appalling cunt" till the field is a little less crowded.

this is turning into one of those great moments when every apologist who rolls up on the media can be safely filed in the "cunt 4 lyfe" drawer

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Toby Young is sad

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eh at least you were saved the bother of rearranging the drawers.

Pretty galling to see the senior NOTW on Newsnight claiming they were just innocent victims in all this and everything bad was done by a previous generation. I assume each and every one of them will be okay on their £300k a week benefits that are really easy to get.

Well, I was thinking of a friend who works there as a sub, and how stunned the person must be.

I'm more and more conflicted about this, yeah it's shitty that people lose their jobs to save their bosses (who are going down whatever I think), but then you consider the fucking poison that paper spewed out week in week out.

If the arms industry collapsed tomorrow I'm not sure I'd be too worried about the admin staff.

um yeah this isn't exactly bombardier

...but mainly, it's unjust that Brooks hasn't lost her job along with the rest.

Cosign that. I don't think we're anywhere near the end of the revelations though - if I was Rusbridger I'd be holding something big back. At some point she'll go - you can't keep your media company run by the most hated woman in Britain forever.

Unless you're Murdoch

you can tell the other News Corp employees are basically good eggs tho by the way they're not cueing up to talk to the radio or TV about how nothing's been proved yet and Rupert Murdoch is history's greatest genius.

So the only undeleted thread about this on The Sun's MY Sun forums is entitled "Why is it ok to give bungs to the Labour party but wrong to give them to coppers?"

There's also one posted two minutes ago under the heading "How 'ethical' is it to throw 500 people to the wolves to save your sorry ginger haired hide" but I guess that'll be for the chop when the morning moderators get out of bed.

Yet working class guys flogging a bit of info is called corruption.. Strange.. Seems Oxbridge educated people have different laws.

Good point, well made.

Please let's not bring class envy into this.

'Please let's not bring class envy into this.' - someone who went to oxbridge

I'm sure none of the crowing over the News of the World's demise and its readership has had the slightest element of class bigotry.

"Oxbridge laws" presumably relate to direction in which port is passed &c.

There's an element of that in the Telegraph's profound sense of betrayal, and the Mail's picked up on it as well. How could a man as pure and moral as David Cameron be dirtied by his associations with these grubby Wapping types?

If the Mail decide to run with the image of the new, sleazier Cameron, he could be in trouble.

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look at the Mail and Telegraph comments - regardless of the line the papers go on to take I think their readerships have decided that they're gonna think of Cameron in those terms already

xp even corrupt perjurers deserve a second chance!

a second chance, over and over again

MarinaHyde

say what you like, this has finally given meaning to Cameron's "we're all in this together" catchphrase. right up to their necks, etc
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so cameron is denying that the aide alan rusbridger warned about coulson passed these warnings on to him??

I liked Dave's "it's not adequate to point the finger at one journalist", completely missing the point that it would be totally adequate to point the finger at just News of the World journalists and the former one he hired to work in the government and the former one who's now an executive he likes hanging around with.

It's tempting to imagine that in the face of an impending parliamentary seizure of everything, lurked a secret so big that Murdoch had to close the entire paper just to dispose of it. I know, I know... but still. I cannot even imagine the number of skeletons hidden away in the NOTW's files.