DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived Cleggeron era

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no i don't think they're sworn in as they are in congressional hearings in the States

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:38 (fourteen years ago)

isn't there some ye ancient law about mis-statements to parliament?

stet, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:39 (fourteen years ago)

might only apply to MPs

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

there's all that stuff about it not being on to use the word "liar"

caek, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

but that's definitely only mps

caek, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

yeah there are people at the bottom end of the ladder who are just happy to have a job and yeah it wd be dickish to gloat at them, but i do think if you have any choice then who you work for is a decision you shd consider the ethical implications of

Yeah I'd agree with that I think. I certainly don't think the journalists are exactly blameless.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

Meanwhile, a film critic speaks

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

can i just say, i'm having a lovely time!

caek, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

Doubtless!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

Trying to think of another brand that became so toxic that it had to be shut down so quickly. Even Fanta survived and that was Hitler's soft drink.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

bbc has 'just found out' abt the newly-registered web addresses

Once Were Moderators (DG), Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

i can't help wondering what happens to the photos "in the vault", i.e. that were taken by paps and bought for a certain amount of time by interested parties in order to keep them hidden

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah I'd agree with that I think. I certainly don't think the journalists are exactly blameless.
The news staff, no, but mind there were a lot of people working on things like the fashion/features pages and supplements etc who could have been pretty insulated from the news desk.

stet, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:45 (fourteen years ago)

Thing is if I was a fashion journalist with options and was offered a job by, say, Richard Desmond or Paul Dacre I'd certainly think hard about whether I wanted to support that person. Suspect most ppl at the NOTW had options when they joined - it's a tough place to get hired by.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:47 (fourteen years ago)

upgrade from "she should consider her position"

Labour Party leader Ed Miliband told the BBC that while the closure of the paper was a "big decision", it did not solve the problem.
"One of the people who is remaining in their jobs is Rebekah Brooks. She should go, she should take responsibility," he said.
"The idea that she is leading the investigation, overseeing it with the police, well, it beggars belief."

caek, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:48 (fourteen years ago)

But yes I know journalists need to eat too and I've lost count of the number of Mail writers I've met who are at pains to say they don't agree with its politics but it still feels like something of a mealy-mouthed objection.

Xpost - this has come at EXACTLY the right time for Ed Miliband, if he looks decisive on this it could mitigate the disaster of that interview last week.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:49 (fourteen years ago)

Reaction from Justice Secretary Ken Clarke: "All they're going to do is rebrand it".

caek, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

and axe 350 jobs, according to the (i guess, former) features editor on twitter.

joe, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:53 (fourteen years ago)

brooks had 2 security guards with her when she went to newsroom for her cry

stet, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:53 (fourteen years ago)

Why aren't they going for 'the Sun-day' is my question

� (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:54 (fourteen years ago)

Ken Clarke must be pissing himself laughing right now.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:55 (fourteen years ago)

also lol fuck notw and hope this does have some backlash for the sun and the times and sky and fox and is the first step in making murdoch have to live out a 'ketchup - catsup - ketchup - catsup...' moment.

(of course it won't but a brother can dream.)

� (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:56 (fourteen years ago)

hope this does have some backlash for the sun and the times and sky and fox

yeah this'll be key. tactical masterstroke by murdoch & brooks in the circs but if the link between NOTW and the rest of NI, and bskyb, can just be hammered home, and if public outrage isn't placated...

lex pretend, Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:00 (fourteen years ago)

Someone was quick:

https://twitter.com/TheSunOnSunday

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:03 (fourteen years ago)

"In your homes, in your lives" loooooool

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:05 (fourteen years ago)

Meanwhile in Idaho:

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/7/7/1310058074018/Rupert-Murdoch-007.jpg

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:10 (fourteen years ago)

a good one to follow for reaction inside NOTW: http://twitter.com/sophyridge

lex pretend, Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:12 (fourteen years ago)

"They cleared out all the bad people. They bought in a great new editor, Colin Myler, and his deputy, Victoria Newton, who had not been sullied by any of the things that had gone on in the past.

Colin Myler get sacked from the Mirror for fucking up a £6m trial, but I'm sure Victoris Newton is completely blameless. Except for being deputy editor of the NOTW.

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:15 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.economist.com/blogs/newsbook/2011/07/newspapers?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/theendoftheworldasweknowit

Printers’ ink runs in the veins of Rupert Murdoch, the boss of News Corporation. But from a pure business perspective (and James Murdoch tends to take that perspective on things) the loss of the News of the World is not at all painful. In a good year, News International’s four papers—the Sun, the News of the World, the Times and the Sunday Times—are marginally profitable. BSkyB, which News Corporation wants to buy, is likely to make more than £1 billion in profit this year.

The shenanigans at the News of the World have already slowed the attempt to purchase BSkyB, and may yet stymie it altogether. This is not just the tail wagging the dog. It is the tail threatening to strangle the dog. It needed to be cut off.

lex pretend, Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:15 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/videos-pics/2011/07/03/ghostly-orbs-haunting-tyneside-home-part-1-79310-28984912/

The Sun on Sunday has a tough act to follow.

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:20 (fourteen years ago)

Really what we need is someone at the Sun/Times/Sky News/Fox News/whatever their American paper is to be caught hacking as well. And that Murdoch told them to.

� (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:21 (fourteen years ago)

Somewhere out there people are racing to break the record for the world's fastest Downfall parody.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:32 (fourteen years ago)

Does listening to The Bugle or watching The Simpsons make me a tory who loves Murdoch? Never paid attention to this moral quandary before.

� (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:33 (fourteen years ago)

Is your name Mumford, Son of.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:34 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtk3yLVUOKg&feature=youtu.be tho doesn't include NoTW shutting.

stet, Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:35 (fourteen years ago)

Newsnight is going to be an absolute humdinger tonight.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:43 (fourteen years ago)

has been all week

Dear Projectionist (blueski), Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:44 (fourteen years ago)

is murdoch jr american?

caek, Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

hugh grant and ilx favourite gaunty on question time

Once Were Moderators (DG), Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

Murdoch Jr went to college with me; I met him once when he was in full hippie trustafarian mode and claiming all he wanted to do was make sculpture and follow bands on tour

DJP, Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:49 (fourteen years ago)

(so while it's not SURPRISING to see him making statements in his current position, it is a little weird)

DJP, Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:50 (fourteen years ago)

terrible cunt, but he was actually pretty impressive in that bbc interview.

caek, Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:51 (fourteen years ago)

just in terms of not coming across like a sociopath i mean. setting the bar low.

caek, Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:51 (fourteen years ago)

Sky says Brooks offered to resign twice.

stet, Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:52 (fourteen years ago)

JM dropped out of Harvard to help launch Rawkus right?

Dear Projectionist (blueski), Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:53 (fourteen years ago)

Wait, I thought that was another Murdoch.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

But having checked, yeah, it was him. Confusing him and Lachlan or whatever his name is.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

Anyway, roffles:

Journalist Neal Mann, a prolific news tweeter under the @fieldproducer moniker, posts:

@fieldproducer Source tells me News Of The World journalists were told Rebecca Brooks offered her resignation twice and she was turned down both times

@fieldproducer I'm told all journalists at the News of the World cheered when a staff member said they would accept her resignation #NOTW

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:58 (fourteen years ago)

many of them will surely accept fat pay-offs too

Dear Projectionist (blueski), Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:04 (fourteen years ago)

awes opportunity to fire the cunts and rehire w/ lesser contracts at the new entirely different sun on sunday

nakhchivan, Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:06 (fourteen years ago)


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