DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived Cleggeron era

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everything they try and to do to make amends is just annoying me now tho, i wanna see jailings and record fines, maybe the odd "suicide"

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:45 (fourteen years ago)

From such humble beginnings:

The newspaper was first published on 1 October 1843, in London by John Browne Bell. Priced at just three pence, even before the repeal of the Stamp Act (1855) or paper duty (1861), it was the cheapest newspaper of its time and was aimed directly at the newly literate working classes. It quickly established itself as a purveyor of titillation, shock and criminal news. Much of the source material came from coverage of vice prosecutions, including transcripts of police descriptions of alleged brothels, streetwalkers, and 'immoral' women.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:46 (fourteen years ago)

lotta work for charidee mate, don't like to talk about it

http://www.oocities.org/harryenf/2-1fab4.jpg

Neil S, Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:46 (fourteen years ago)

Frederick Greenwood, editor of the Pall Mall Gazette, met in his club one day Lord Riddell, who died a few years ago, and in the course of conversation Riddell said to him, `You know, I own a paper.' `Oh, do you?' said Greenwood, 'what is it?' `It's called the News of the World—I'll send you a copy,' replied Riddell, and in due course did so. Next time they met Riddell said, 'Well Greenwood, what do you think of my paper?' 'I looked at it,' replied Greenwood, 'and then I put it in the waste-paper basket. And then I thought, "If I leave it there the cook may read it" —so I burned it!'

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:48 (fourteen years ago)

I like how the Beeb is already playing the tiny violin for the innocent Stormtroopers who weren't part of the SS heirarchy and couldn't have known they were working for scumbags.

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:48 (fourteen years ago)

I just like the idea of these two doofs hanging around their club and one going "Oh yeah, I own a paper, almost forgot about that" and the other being all "Who knew?"

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:49 (fourteen years ago)

you'll notice of course that while the whole newspaper has gone, rebekah brooks remains - biggest sacrificial scapegoat* ever

*that'll just be resurrected anyway

lex pretend, Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:49 (fourteen years ago)

escape goat, morelike.

Mark G, Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:50 (fourteen years ago)

Anyone know how many people work at the paper? Will they all be loaded off at the Sun now?

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:51 (fourteen years ago)

story's up on the BBC

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:51 (fourteen years ago)

Can almost imagine the Sun now just coming with a Sunday edition. Same thing.

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:52 (fourteen years ago)

Martyn Lewis has now said that he's considering not writing for the paper...

Mark G, Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:52 (fourteen years ago)

lol

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:53 (fourteen years ago)

Can't remember where I read (maybe here!) the v. good point that Brooks has to stay, because if she goes there's nobody left to insulate James.

stet, Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:54 (fourteen years ago)

So, this is all purely for the benefit of Murdoch's BSkyB bid, right?

Mark G, Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:54 (fourteen years ago)

no it makes zero difference to the BSkyB bid, legally they will have to award it to Murdoch anyway

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:55 (fourteen years ago)

RT @subedited: Sun staff have been told they are moving to a 7-day operation #notw #hacking

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:55 (fourteen years ago)

4.51pm: Tom Watson MP: No one was going to buy this paper any more.

...see I don't think this is actually true, is the weird thing

winsome posters leave the hall (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:55 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, that's what I said, Tracer!

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:56 (fourteen years ago)

whoops sorry!

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:57 (fourteen years ago)

4.51pm: Tom Watson MP: No one was going to buy this paper any more.

...see I don't think this is actually true, is the weird thing

― winsome posters leave the hall (DJ Mencap), Thursday, July 7, 2011 4:55 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

otm... what a world eh

bros. i zing bros. (history mayne), Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:57 (fourteen years ago)

No I mean I said it, don't know that tweet :-)

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:58 (fourteen years ago)

So... how to fill those 64 pages on Sunday? A 'Greatest Hacks' edition?

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:58 (fourteen years ago)

xposts: I dunno, if there are outstanding lawsuits against News International, it reduces the value of their stock and makes their bid untenable.

Mark G, Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:59 (fourteen years ago)

the Eye quite often run stories about Sun and NOTW staffers being pretty cold to each other but I guess that's more about how scoops get divvied up than any, uh, ideological differences

winsome posters leave the hall (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:59 (fourteen years ago)

James Murdoch statement in full.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:59 (fourteen years ago)

So, they have a week and a bit to invent "The Sun On Sunday", right?

Mark G, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:00 (fourteen years ago)

Sky News 2s ago "It is, quite literally, the end of the world. [huge pause]. The news of the world".

stet, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:01 (fourteen years ago)

no it makes zero difference to the BSkyB bid, legally they will have to award it to Murdoch anyway
Ofcom were still able to veto it on the "fit and proper" organisation line; closure strikes me as a big bid to show they're just that.

stet, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:03 (fourteen years ago)

Even Sarah Palin is outr...wait, never mind, it's about the Daily Mail being mean to her.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:04 (fourteen years ago)

wow, that statement

DJP, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:04 (fourteen years ago)

Any advertising space in this last edition will be donated to causes and charities that wish to expose their good works to our millions of readers.

"...and who wish to be prominently associated the ghoulish criminality that now defines us in the eyes of the public"

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:04 (fourteen years ago)

xp to stet is that a South Park reference or did they actually say that?

winsome posters leave the hall (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:04 (fourteen years ago)

probably doesn't hurt from a competition standpoint, not every NOTW reader will transition to a Sunday Sun especially if it doesn't appear for a few weeks.

xpost

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:04 (fourteen years ago)

"Don't believe it all"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAXeUKPwBj4

Mark G, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:05 (fourteen years ago)

NI laid ground for a 7-day operation in june http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2011/jun/28/newsinternational-rebekahwade

xp no, they literally said it! Top of the hour. "Good evening. You are watching Sky News on ... a dramatic day. It is literally the end of the world."

stet, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:05 (fourteen years ago)

So when the Sunday Sun comes out and does exactly the same thing with a load of shared journalists and back-office functions, saving NewsCorp a ton of cash, I hope ppl will actually remember this week.

It's what the Graun have been wishing they could do to the Observer for ages.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:07 (fourteen years ago)

well now the field's open for the observer to go red-top

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:08 (fourteen years ago)

Guys, there's a "Sunday Sun" already, just like there was/is a "Sunday Mail" as well.

Mark G, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:08 (fourteen years ago)

Buying shares in whoever owns the Sunday People immediately.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:08 (fourteen years ago)

Guys, there's a "Sunday Sun" already, just like there was/is a "Sunday Mail" as well.

Eh?

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:09 (fourteen years ago)

xp was gonna say, it won't fly in the north east for a start http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/

winsome posters leave the hall (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:09 (fourteen years ago)

When the Daily Mail started their sunday edition, they couldn't call it The SundayMail, as there was an (irish based) paper of that name already.

Mark G, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:10 (fourteen years ago)

and a Scottish one.

stet, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:10 (fourteen years ago)

What about calling it Tomb Raider?

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:11 (fourteen years ago)

"World of the News"

Mark G, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:11 (fourteen years ago)

yes and the Sunday Sun exists but it is a regional paper covering Newcastle and the north east.

www.sundaysun.co.uk

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:11 (fourteen years ago)

SO THEY CAN'T USE THAT NAME!!!

(ahem)

Mark G, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:12 (fourteen years ago)

They can just call it the Sun on Sunday or even just The Sun.

Until the first Sun phone-hacking story comes out, as is surely inevitable now.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:15 (fourteen years ago)

this is turning into one of those great moments when every apologist who rolls up on the media can be safely filed in the "cunt 4 lyfe" drawer

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:16 (fourteen years ago)


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