best conspirator/villain in the film JFK

Has that pedant read DeLillo, Le Carre or Legacy of Ashes?

probably, and yet he made a joke about a bad wig in a movie all the same

probably worth letting you know those paragraphs are from a joe queenan essay for movieline riffing on Stone's oeuvre, and not a serious consideration of the JFK conspiracy

i thought it was pretty well established that david ferrie had a terrible wig in real life too but then you go to wikipedia and it's all [citation needed]

History hinges on men with bad/no hair.

Would Kevin Costner had saved Whitney Houston's life in The Bodyguard with longer hair? Doubt it.

i have my own opinions here but really in the end *breaks fourth wall, looks at ilx* it's up to you

Did you ever stop to think about what he was feeling?!

Yeah, where is Liz Garrison on this list?

Pesci as David Ferrie, for inspiring Sean Penn's equally unhinged performance in Carlito's Way: a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigmatic hairpiece. Second place: John Candy, daddy-o.

(Is Larry Hagman listed? I can't figure out which guy he is.)

he's in Nixon!

sloshing a lotta scotch around his mouth

You're right...I'm getting my wires crossed. What about Eric Bogosian's talk-radio host?

People like to act more important than they are.
Especially in the homosexual underworld.
But when they got him...
...I got scared.
Real scared.
That's when I got popped.

omar we all know why YOU'RE a liberal.

Hagman could've been in JFK -- one of the guys around LBJ, like the weird Dr. Strangelove German ("Vee haf to cohntrrol ze intelligence from Saigon").

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I got nuthin' to hide. I'm already in JAIL.

people got to know. people got to know why he was kilt. because he was...a communist.

no pesci no credibility

not being familiar with the homosexual underworld of the 1960s personally, i have to wonder how many nixon voters there were.

You're not a bad lookin' man, Mr. Nixon. Not bad lookin' at all.

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i voted for kevin bacon but honorable mention goes to the guy who shouts YOU HEARD ECHOES -- ECHOES!

echoes guy was fantastic. he looked like he'd been spending a couple hours telling a hundred different people about echoes and at that point just wanted to go home to the wife and kids.

Underrated and unmentioned: Dr. Strangelove NSC guy hissing in German accent, "Vee haf to cahntrol the eentelligence from Saigohn."

well don't let mcnamara start sticking his damn nose in this thing. every time he goes over to saigon on some fuckin fact-finding mission, he comes back and just scares the SHIT outta the president! now i want max taylor on him night and day. like a FLY ON SHIT. you control mcnamera, you control kennedy.

http://www.vh1.com/celebrity/bwe/images/2010/10/Alec-Baldwin-Glengarry-Glen-Ross.jpg

"You want echoes? Go home and play with your kids!"

wish there was a spin-off where candy and costner solve crimes and kevin bacon is their huggy bear

call it a "prequel" series

Now stop eating that damn crab meat for a minute and listen!

"it's franklin & bash meets mad men with a touch of Oz"

frank whaley probably deserved a vote but of course this is an awful field to try to compete in. "gee. i'm sorry. thought i was shooting at that sonofabitch kennedy." [awkward mutual laugh]

the reaction shot of the shooting range owner is the worst in the film

both brothers

Time stands still here, like a snake sunning itself.

you think that's worse than the subsequent Garrisex

i wonder how cameo-crazy epics like this got cast. like frank whaley was already starring in shit like career opportunities, did he actually come in to read for "fake oswald"? did they ASK for frank whaley? is it "walter matthau, would you come in for a day to read this monologue about a hippie girl whose belly reads 'love child'"?

"jack lemmon? it's kenneth branagh? we'd really love you to be guard #2 in my hamlet"

haha i was about to bring that movie up. jack lemmon is terrible in it.

judi dench has no lines.

"kenneth, it's robin williams! i really wanna be in your hamlet! shit i don't even care you got me saying 'a very palpable hit' - i just wanna be a part of this!"

heston, jacobi, richard briers, and guy who plays horatio all great tho.

jfk is pre-email too, so it's not like stone could just bcc the hollywood left

Donald Sutherland basically walked over from the same studio in which he sot his pyro monologue from Backdraft.

*shot

(also julie christie completely nails the description of ophelia's drowning although she can't keep me from wondering what i always wonder which is if you were close enough to compose this breathtaking poem in your head about her slowly sinking into the river why didn't you PULL HER OUT) sorry back to jfk

the homosexual underworld

god i love this movie

that guy was great, i should have included him specifically.

all those cigars in that scene. never seen so much smoke. except for the smoke wafting over the fence on the knoll.

and a liveried servant serving cocktails

i should watch 'nixon' again to do a similar poll (larry hagman! j edgar! j edgar's poolboy! a jealous clyde tolson!)

I haven't seen Nixon since it came out. sometimes I wonder if it's worth watching again but I'm a little leery

nixon is totally the new jersey

it's getting increasingly hard to remember that oliver stone used to be an omnipresence come awards time and was such a cultural force as a director. his steez really didn't translate well past the mid-'90s at all, probably worse than any other major director of his era. what's been his biggest film since 'nixon'. 'w' maybe? i saw 'wall street 2' and thought it was actually quite well done in a ludicrous way, and could have been something much better minus shia labeouf.

his 'untold history' series is really excellent.

"W" is great, small stakes and small cast as it is. But he's def lost his way as a director.

I watched Wall Street 2 with its intended dinner theatre audience and there a sense that everyone wanted Quality Adult Entertainment and gave the film a lot of chances.

Stone's eminence started to wane with NBK, which was a modest hit and one of those things everyone was talking about until Pulp Fiction. Nixon was the critical comeback, I guess, just to prove he could do JFK again without any of the verve. I saw Any Given Sunday in the theatre but except for some bonecrunching it reminded me of Coppola directing Jack.

*there was a sense

wall street 2 w/all its neon lit NYC and a sneering michael douglas felt like stylistically a 'black rain' redux in some ways. actually it also had a motorcycle driving villain w/josh brolin. ridic movie.

U.S. Gross Numbers Only:

Any Give Sunday - $75,530,832
World Trade Center - $70,236,496
Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps - $52,474,616
W. - $25,534,493
Alexander - $34,297,191
U Turn - $6,633,400

Whoops, W out of turn there, but you get the gist.

i had sort of meant that maybe 'w' was his biggest critical success but then i realized maybe 'any given sunday' was actually critically well received too?

god i didn't know WTC did that well.

If it's planned right, no problem. They got close to De Gaulle.

Eisenhower always rode in open top.

We need three mechanics in three different locations.

An office building, a high-powered rifle.

Triangulation of crossfire, that's the key. That's the key.

A diversionary shot gets the Secret Service looking one way.

Boom! Get the kill shot.

One man has to be sacrificed.

In the commotion, the job gets done.

The others leave the country.

the uncut Alexander made a top-10 list or two this year

Nixon was the critical comeback, I guess, just to prove he could do JFK again without any of the verve

oh vuuuuurve is what you call it, huh

RIP to the man who shook my baby hand in bay ridge in 61 and then got caught slippin in Dallas 54 years ago today. JFK🇮🇪💚🇮🇪

— Colin Quinn (@iamcolinquinn) November 22, 2017

how's your mousse

I often have a friend sit at one end while I sit at the other. It's precisely the point of a long dining table. The splendor of the meal adds to its enjoyment.

That faggot Kennedy won't let us! Our hands are empty -- how CAN we keel him?

I keep waiting for someone to adapt 'American Tabloid/The Cold Six Thousand' into a long form TV show, but it has so many nasty 'swears' - I think it would be too much to film now.

if i could have one hollywood wish granted it would be an 8 season huge budget HBO adaptation of all the ellroy books from black dahlia to blood's a rover

Yeah, where is Liz Garrison on this list?

― ephendophile (Eric H.),

"the subsequent Garrisex"

Alfred, this is gonna haunt me forever

i really missed the boat by not including the FBI agent who bullies and subsequently turns Bill Broussard (portrayed by Wayne Tippit)

i should watch 'nixon' again to do a similar poll (larry hagman! j edgar! j edgar's poolboy! a jealous clyde tolson!)

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