DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived Cleggeron era

I HOPE THAT YOU ALL REALISE IT IS INCONCEIVABLE

it's inconceivable that she sanctions these allegations being made!

if she didn't know how the paper she was editor of was getting its information, what kind of editor was she?

Rebekah, is your hope also false?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/FujikoMine/Articles/vizzini.jpg

It's not phone-hacking, it's the combination of phone-hacking and murdered children. And if the public don't care about murdered or missing children then why the three years' worth of Maddy front pages?

Speaking of which, bet the McCanns are consulting their lawyers right now.

Brooks is taking on the air of an inept politician on the Thick of It making a desperate speech unaware of the Malcolm Tuckers running around making gunfingers at her.

If the Daily Mail has not only made it its main story but is explicitly mentioning Rebekah Brooks then that's pretty serious. Good.

News Int execs tell me they fear there may have been worse examples of NOTW hacking than that of Milly Dowler's phone. The mind reels

Jesus. This still feels like the tip of the iceberg. There really should be a public inquiry (though of course it won't happen).

It's not phone-hacking, it's the combination of phone-hacking and murdered children. And if the public don't care about murdered or missing children then why the three years' worth of Maddy front pages?

#itsagoodstory

The Telegraph is going hard at Peston:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100095296/robert-peston-news-internationals-press-officer/

Not sure if that's because he broke the Vince Cable story though that they initially covered up.

Ah, Toby Young, projecting again.

also:

She added: "It is almost too horrific to believe that a professional journalist or even a freelance inquiry agent working on behalf of a member of the News of the World staff could behave in this way.

"Horrific" is the wrong word for this sentence. I'll agree that it is possibly horrific to her that this happened on her watch, yes. But the rest of this statement gives the impression of "I had nothing to do with this, and I will sue anyone who suggests I did"

Plenty of people, both outside and at work, reading the Sun regardless and not passing any comment.

In any case the “it’s my paper”/constipation-like status of newspaper readers who would doggedly stick with “their paper” even if its front page told them they were scum and should slash their own throats will mean that this will do no real damage to News International. The story has been effectively neutered.

Well it's the most popular story on www.bbc.co.uk/news ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14032287

Well, it strikes me that it's sort of like that G20 Policeman thing, in that:

The media will go lightly around this, until it looks like this won't wash, at which point they will form a kicking queue.

According to the BBC News website it's currently the ninth most popular story. Top is "Ferdinand angry at 'affair' story."

You see, that's all people want, a Good Story.

most shared is: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14025550

not even a good story :(

Haha how quickly the attention shifts...

Peter Gabriel has been warning us about those fridges for years.

er it is true that peston is a conduit for news internash propaganda tho

otoh according to private eye that's via his old telegraph buddy whatshisname

Milly Dowler's family currently the main photo on the New York Times web site.

Yay for the WSJ/NYT rivalry!

In any case the “it’s my paper”/constipation-like status of newspaper readers who would doggedly stick with “their paper” even if its front page told them they were scum and should slash their own throats will mean that this will do no real damage to News International.

So I assume the circulation figures for the Sun on Merseyside are much the same now as they were after Hillsborough then?

Ha the NY Times has gone full bore on this. Homepage has an inline photo gallery of: 1) the grieving parents 2) Milly Dowler and 3) ... Rebekah Brooks at Wimbledon looking sinister

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/07/05/world/05britain_337cham/05britain_337cham-custom3.jpg

xp

Only when there's footie at stake.

Sun's cup coverage doubles sales in Liverpool

As predicted: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/05/phone-hacking-soham-families-police

yeah. wouldn't be surprised if they got involved w/ things like baby p and madeline mccan too.

Peta Buscombe of the PCC admits that the PCC is fucking useless: "There's only so much we can do when people are lying to us. We know now that I was not being given the truth by the News of the World."

yeah. we already knew the practice was endemic...so at this point it'd be more of a surprise if they hadn't.

i guess people have checked out the bylines of the reporters assigned to these stories at the time?

Yeah, proving they tapped the McCanns would be huge.

Not esp. huger than Milly Dowler / Soham

well they might've let slip where the kid's buried

The deleting of the messages in the Milly Dowler case is the real jawdropper

i guess people have checked out the bylines of the reporters assigned to these stories at the time?

― lex pretend, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 16:32 (1 minute ago) Bookmark

well, i'm sure nick davies has, but news international took all their stuff off lexisnexis last year and their web archive doesn't go back more than a couple of years. wonder why.

#itsagoodstory

news international took all their stuff off lexisnexis last year

didn't even know you could do this

So Rebekah's for Xmas dinner or Dave and Sam's this year?

I think huger in the sense that the cases were different -- Maddy hunt and investigation was more controversial and much less clear (not to mention still open). Tampering with evidence when the parents themselves were suspects and there were foreign police involved seems to me like it'll be more grave. xxp

Yes, Cam's visit to Afghanistan has been slightly overshadowed by all this. It's only just got back on the BBC front page. Of course, he's not there for the photo op, so he's probably fine with it.

amazing dissection of the brooks statement: http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/david-allen-green/2011/07/news-allegations-evidence-2

channel 4 apparently homing in on possibly the only worse-than-maddie scenario: that the notw campaigned for sara's law, and hacked the phone of sarah payne.

oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

Is it definite that Milly Dowler's family/friends knew about the voicemails being deleted? Confused as to whether they did or whether their lawyer had just said that could have happened as a result of the hacking, from what I've read

This is snowballing into something horrible and utterly compelling at the same time.

This has gone a bit David Peace

Jon Snow just casually slaughtering Simon Greenberg, who is admittedly not putting up much of a fight

if the stuff about the police officer they tailed is all true then its the first proof that Brooks knew about the phone hacking in 2002

...and, in a total non-shock at this point, the police have been speaking to the McCanns' lawyers

all we need now is some evidence they hacked the queen mum and people will be burning effigies in the street

if the stuff about the police officer they tailed is all true then its the first proof that Brooks knew about the phone hacking in 2002

― SB OK (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, July 5, 2011 8:00 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah when they do the mini-series, it'll open with the murder of dan morgan, that pretty much explains why the police never got into this without being forced.

beginning to think if they were doing all this hacking, notw should have got some better stories. this police corruption one would have been classic screws material.