I think you are taking the movie too seriously
― iatee, Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:33 (twelve years ago) link
it's a romantic comedy ffs
am i the only person who thinks cusack's kinda the weakpoint of malkovich?
Nope. While I know he's playing the straight man I want more lines that aren't at his expense.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:34 (twelve years ago) link
"assassin" is his job, he treats it like most of us treat punching the time card at a mundane job. he doesn't even really enjoy it that much.
― john valjean bon jovi (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:34 (twelve years ago) link
Joan Cusack's asides in GPB are worth the price of admission ("It was as if everyone had swelled").
Also: John making fun of her outfit ("Sgt. Pepper").
shakey you should see america's sweethearts, it addresses alot of the problems you have w/ gpb
― balls, Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:35 (twelve years ago) link
2 votes for 2012... really?
― where ilxor ends and markers begins (history mayne), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:36 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah exactly, the assasin thing is played casually like its a job he's weary of like anyone else would be, as he re-assesses his life completely hence the reunion thing.
Also, a fucktonne of hilarious dialogue, how anyone cant find it funny I do not know. Fuck even Piven is bearable in this film.
― Bloompsday (Trayce), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:37 (twelve years ago) link
"TEN -- YEARS!"
― john valjean bon jovi (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:37 (twelve years ago) link
the Piven-Cusack exchange about their old friend who works at Pizza Hut ("Let's not go there").
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:38 (twelve years ago) link
(We often yell out "TEN .... YEARS! TEN YEARS!" for no reason at my place.)
― Bloompsday (Trayce), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:39 (twelve years ago) link
LOL xpost
the convenience store blowing up is pretty boss too.
― john valjean bon jovi (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:40 (twelve years ago) link
"man Caddyshack was a terrible movie, Chevy Chase wasn't a credible golfer..."
― john valjean bon jovi (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:41 (twelve years ago) link
and EVERY SCENE with Alan Arkin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2uCXOKxfjU&feature=related
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:41 (twelve years ago) link
"You ok?" "Course I'm not ok! I'm hurt... I'm pissed... and I gotta find a new job!"
― Bloompsday (Trayce), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:42 (twelve years ago) link
Haha yeah the psych scenes."Sure I'll give it a shot""NO! Don't shoot anything"
― Bloompsday (Trayce), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:43 (twelve years ago) link
hahahaha yes.
"Martin it's a terrible dream, it's a depressing dream. It's got no brain, got no blood...got no aenima!"
― john valjean bon jovi (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:44 (twelve years ago) link
If only Cusack had done Killing Zoe...
― you've got great robot conflict (Eazy), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
"assassin" is his job, he treats it like most of us treat punching the time card at a mundane job
just conceptually this makes no sense to me
its like the premise of Cars. does not compute
― a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
"Design division wants me dead over a leaky sun-roof? You want to kill me for that?""It's not ME! Why does everybody think it's personal?"
― john valjean bon jovi (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
Assassins get paid money.
― john valjean bon jovi (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:46 (twelve years ago) link
for the job.
nah he is totally believable. tons of golfers are like that. (lol Bill Murray)
― a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:46 (twelve years ago) link
liked gross pointe blank a lot, though it's been a while. it's got good jokes & likeable characters, the soundtrack is enjoyable, the basic idea is absurdly funny, and the romantic angle works pretty well. can see why it was such a big hit.
personally, i was bothered by the film's failure to take john cusack's character seriously (a weird thing to fault a comedy for, i know). like it sets up this awesome black comedy situation, but then doesn't have the balls to follow it through. i think i'd have enjoyed it twice as much if it didn't try at the last minute sidestep the fact that the main character is a monster ― delusional, violent, dead inside and entirely amoral.
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:48 (twelve years ago) link
if his job is so boring and mundane why does he feel compelled to conceal it from his friends
― a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:50 (twelve years ago) link
It wasn't a hit actually, but I saw it in everyone's dorm on VHS for the next few years. Everyone who saw it started a John Cusack tribute band.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:50 (twelve years ago) link
BECAUSE ASSASSIN ISN'T EXACTLY A PROFESSION THAT ENDEARS PEOPLE TO YOU
― john valjean bon jovi (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:50 (twelve years ago) link
(xpost)
no need to yell
― a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:51 (twelve years ago) link
i think i'd have enjoyed it twice as much if it didn't try at the last minute sidestep the fact that the main character is a monster ― delusional, violent, dead inside and entirely amoral.
It did come through! We owe a lot to The Grifters for showing how Cusack's romantic side had a cold mean one too.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:52 (twelve years ago) link
and the reason the job of assassin does not endear you to people is because.... it's violent/illegal/morally suspect/dangerous/highly unusual... ie, things that are the opposite of boring and mundane
Grifters is a way better movie
― a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:52 (twelve years ago) link
guess it was one of those slow-build hits, like video sales and rentals forever, successful soundtrack & dorm poster, etc.
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:52 (twelve years ago) link
the ending of the Grifters is fucked UP
xp
xxpost things that are the opposite of boring/mundane to OTHER people. not necessarily someone who's been doing it for over a decade and has grown tired of it.
― john valjean bon jovi (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:53 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe it's a stretch, but Cusack's character is one of the few believable sociopaths I've seen in recent years. He's bullshitting with Piven in the car, flirting with Driver, chatting up her old man, but he kills people in a professional manner. Maybe this tension bothers Shakey.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:53 (twelve years ago) link
I mean someone who finds the high-tension violence of killing people boring is, as contenderizer points out, basically a monster. but cusack is not portrayed as a monster. he's just a loveable guy! who wants to go to his reunion! WTFxp
― a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:54 (twelve years ago) link
he doesn't want to go to his reunion! he's only in town because he's supposed to whack somebody in town the same week!
― john valjean bon jovi (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:54 (twelve years ago) link
He's a very BOTHERED guy also, or did you miss that?
― Bloompsday (Trayce), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:55 (twelve years ago) link
(who happens to be Minnie Driver's dad) xpost
― john valjean bon jovi (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:55 (twelve years ago) link
grifters is a way better movie. fewer laughs, though.
though i didn't vote, my favorite cusack would probably be a toss-up between grifters, being john malkovitch and better off dead. gross pointe blank in at #4.
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:55 (twelve years ago) link
I mean someone who finds the high-tension violence of killing people boring is, as contenderizer points out, basically a monster. but cusack is not portrayed as a monster. he's just a loveable guy!
No he's not.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:55 (twelve years ago) link
bothered and lovable are not mutually exclusive. in fact combining the two is Cusack's whole schtick
― a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:55 (twelve years ago) link
he's feelin uneasy, man
― kaygee, Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:56 (twelve years ago) link
his face in the scene where Minnie Driver is interviewing him in the radio station...very blank, no emotion.
― john valjean bon jovi (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:56 (twelve years ago) link
I never said they were, but thats also what makes it good! xpost
Also, I voted for it because it is FUNNY. Sod the believability.
― Bloompsday (Trayce), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:56 (twelve years ago) link
nah Trayce he's convinced me (throws away DVD)
― john valjean bon jovi (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:57 (twelve years ago) link
Cusack's character is one of the few believable sociopaths I've seen in recent years
have you heard of this little movie American Psycho. Which is also funnier than GPB
― a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:57 (twelve years ago) link
they show him kill a bunch of people in fairly brutal ways so i guess i'm just not seeing how you didn't get the cold-blooded killer part
― kaygee, Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:57 (twelve years ago) link
I just dont over-think movies ever like this, tbh. But this is why I'd never read ILFilm in a jillion years.
― Bloompsday (Trayce), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:58 (twelve years ago) link