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^^^ 2011 GOP motto

When the Athenians voted to execute Socrates, was he or was he not the victim of tyranny? Can tyranny take any form other than dictatorship? Are the fears of our founding fathers mere fantasy, or is care for legal protection against the tyranny of the majority an actual real-world concern? Is the vote of a democratically elected body necessarily not tyranny? To dismiss the N. Korea analogy as beyond the pale is to deny the rational of the founding fathers, to deny any appeals to right and wrong that extend beyond positive law. Tyranny is capricious law, based upon the will of one, few, or many in a way that gravely contradicts the common good and the traditional laws for securing that good. Too much Team America and not enough Aristotle in these dismissals of the N. Korea analogy.

tsk, the tyranny of democracy

where is the originally N. Korea comparison? Following all their link circle jerks leads me nowhere.

wasn't Socrates a boy bugger?

tying themselves in knots trying to explain how the votes of elected politicians equal dictatorial mandates, but that's how you have to roll sometimes

everyone loves the majority opinion when they are in agreement with it

here ya go, Ed: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/270491/new-york-s-age-anarchy-hour-zero-michael-potemra

the tyranny of democracy - from the same folks who brought you "liberal fascism"

Dear fuckfaces,

Below is the entirety of the long-dead Founding Fathers' thoughts on gay marriage:

Thank you,
The Management

oh man:

She Went by ‘Daddy’
June 27, 2011 11:53 A.M.
By Glenn T. Stanton

My daughter and I were in Manhattan over this weekend so I could do some research at the Met. Waves of people were coming into the city for Sunday’s big gay-pride march, where they could celebrate the Empire State’s new same-sex-marriage law. We sat behind some of them on the train, three young women with a precious, excited toddler girl in tow. The very evident leader of the clan was the patriarch. Adorned as if she might be an actor portraying a hip-hop teen from Cleveland, she had her meticulous corn-rows tucked under a backwards navy-blue flat-billed ballcap, a matching wife beater revealing a mural of tats on her arms, shoulders, and back. Baggy jeans rode low, leading to her construction boots with untied laces dangling free.

She was the only one of the adult threesome that interacted with the child, mindlessly uttering reassuring words like “Daddy will be right back” or “Sit over here by Daddy.”

You see, this is one of the things that most concerns me about the legal institutionalization of genderless marriage and parenting. We are told that nothing will really change with such laws; people who really love each other will just be able to enter really meaningful, legally protected relationships.

But, to use the language of our women’s-studies scholars, such a turn “does violence” to our concept of sex difference. They would have us believe that their way of looking at the world transcends the “narrow” confines of socially constructed gender difference, but these very folks end up playing to those very confines, usually in comically stereotypical ways. Think drag queen in her everyday clothes, like our Urban Outfitters dad on the train.

If that's all they got, they don't got a lot.

She went by Daddy!

To whom Glenn has written a letter.

Basic category rules (rules defining how things are defined and categorized) will be changed such that the government, rather than biology and the institution of marriage, will determine who is and is not a family.

This is why changing a single rule (marriage excludes adultery changed to marriage can include adultery) matters. It destroys marriage's ability to legitimize family bonds.

I've seen this argument before -- re "basic category rules." It's what happens when you introduce logic to psychosis I think. Utterly insane.

it's like when the buddha leaves his father's house and sees a sick man for the first time.

well no it's more like some dickhead getting weird about a bulldyke on the train.

xps

these idiots are so shook

its almost satisfying

the undercurrent of hilarity that i'm really digging is, they're losing their shit now instead of the other big gay rights victory's because they all live in new york like the rest of the media

er 'victories', wtf

lol seriously that was embarrassing

K-Lo is reduced to muttering whether a referendum wouldn't have been a better idea. These guys love changing the rules when they don't like the results.

I think they're worried mostly about what friends of theirs who they had no idea about (via head-in-sandism) are about to start inviting them to their marriages...

"Uh, can't make it. My leg will be acting up."

NRO weirdly super catholic these last few days.

I wonder if Jonah feels uncomfortable

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Put everything to the vote. The Iraq/Afghanistan/Lybia/Yemen wars. Tax increases on the top 1%. The Surge (TM). Pot legalization. Football stadiums. Gambling. Whether we should increase or decrease social security benefits for grandma! The speed limit! The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills!

Representative democracy is a crime against freedom!

http://www.x-entertainment.com/articles/sodas/7.jpg

butthurt

hahahha irobot has to be an ilxor

Here's an important reminder: any government powerful enough to hand out "rights" to favored minorities is also powerful enough to take them away as well.

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Oh i've commented a few times under various screennames.

Surely you're just trolling them under your deepest cover yet, Ms. Lopez.

Jabba Fierce, if you're feeling nasty.

The Corner gone crazy with the otm lately:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/270590/chris-wallaces-tough-week-michael-walsh

woah -- something weird going on at NRO. i wonder if there's an ideological takedown going on.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/270628/ethics-social-change-michael-potemra

^^^ its like he takes a knee at the 2-yd line there

yeah the last couple days have been so wild over there, all out of proportion

This is why changing a single rule (marriage excludes adultery changed to marriage can include adultery) matters.

Wait, do Corner dudes think the state should initiate divorce when a spouse cheats??

the final fallback:

That piece of paper stamped with a state seal and signed by a bureaucrat may give you legal legitimacy, but in society at large, same sex marriage is a joke, and it always will be; fodder for edgy stand-up comedians and raunchy animated sitcoms on Fox.

"edgy stand-up comedians"

don't forget "shock jocks"

this one from a k-lo post about amy poehler fundraising for planned parenthood (amidst a bunch of "shut up and make jokes" comments):

Ms. Poehler should stop by a local Planned Parenthood clinic sometime - not one of the show clinics reserved for contributors and special guests - and see the Planned Parenthood most women see

in the show clinics all the aborted fetuses are NKVD actors

in the show clinics all the aborted fetuses are NKVD actors

this is a truly beautiful sentence & I commend you for it

this isn't so bad, honestly!

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/270523/gay-marriage-where-do-we-put-sidewalks-kevin-d-williamson

the last two paragraphs are unmistakably hostile but the guy at least appears able to apprehend what is real.

libertinism!

ha, i love the implied drama of 'the planned parenthood most women see'. it's like

http://suncrestdug.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/waiting-room-magazines.jpg

i forget who it was who explained the corner's standard process of transforming mean, knee-jerk impulses into columns by shrouding everything in weird academic vocab, but:

But, to use the language of our women’s-studies scholars, such a turn “does violence” to our concept of sex difference.

speaking of the NKVD:

Amy Poehler is not without some talent, but we all know she is on tv and promoted because of the partisan community of dedicated Democrats slanting all they can via various Media endeavors.

Poehler stole that role from Victoria Jackson obv.

i am always good for an nkvd joke! xxxxpost

i have only been in a planned parenthood once but the couches were really nice.

We missed this!

If a woman wants a man to eventually propose (no matter what is on TV, most of us do), it’s good to figure out if he is willing to initiate early on. Most women I know still want to be with a man who can steer a relationship. Allowing a man to take the lead also ensures that he really wants the relationship to begin with. If he’s lukewarm, he won’t have the staying power to work through issues when they arise.

At the same time, I encourage women to be creative about expressing their interest in feminine ways. Men find it helpful when women show interest by maintaining eye contact, smiling a lot, giving compliments and basically encouraging them along. It takes courage to ask a woman out on a date, and a woman can make it easier on the guy by subtly reassuring him that her answer will be Yes.

Another way that a woman can coax a shy man along is to say, “I am going to get a coffee. … You are welcome to join me.” That way, she’s going about her normal business and simply saying that it is fine for him to tag along if he wants to. At some point, though, he should make a phone call or request a date in person if he wants a relationship.

I know some women are more assertive than others. I was probably one of the most adventurous women out of my crowd when I was dating, but I would still never ask a guy for a formal first date. No way!