The Matrix Reloaded (full spoilers)

I thought the highway scene was really boring and crap and I didn't like the hundreds of Smiths scene either.

Morpheus' speech was so pathetic. He didn't say anything motivating or frenzy inducing, his voice sounded really weak and strained, he had no stage prescence. I don't get it, I though the guy playing the role was meant to be an actor - how come he couldn't pull it off? It was embarrassingly bad.

Keanu = k-hot.

I didn't notice the 23 on the council, 23 choosen to rebuild Zion thing. How many were male and how many female?

dude i think the sentinels are escape pods!! remember when the zionistick leadership is discussing how there's "one for every citizen of zion" and morpheus comes in going "sounds like machine thinking to me" and they're all like "whoa, morpheus, whassup" and forget everything they were talking about; sentinels r gunning for nebuchadnezzar because they neo et al are a DANJUH to mankind

i think the drilling and/or sentinels are sent by humans, alive at the top, taking the upper hand perhaps momentarily in their REAL fight against the machines, and sending down rescue crews to the poor fuckers who are literally living in hell (check out that lava action)

and for fucks sake will everyone stop complaining about how the 100 Smiths fight scene looked so CGI/fake...do you people sit and watch cartoons and go 'oh thats so unrealistic'? come on...

Well, at least I can remove my four-fingered white gloves from my hands.

The reason the matrix needs to be reset is precisely coz that failsafe can't handle neo, and his "anomilies" need to be redigested to make the next version more "perfect".

Think godel's theorem -- as things accumulate, neo is the "godel number" of the system which challenges its w-completeness, so it has to be recreated at a higher level etc.

So the entire movie cycle is a figurative instance of a guy hunched over his cubicle at 2 am saying, "God, I need to fix these bugs by tomorrow."

That's amazing, Spencer! You'll be claiming I don't like Andrew WK next!

ironically this wasnt the problem, seems people have issues with the quality of modelling and animating itself. i personally have nothing but raw intense love for that fight scene

Hell we're on a music discussion site. Who likes being told the best guitar-solo ever has sloppy finger-work? It's pointless. Get your heads in the game, for real.

As for the rave, it was OK, I say OK, once it became stylish instead of jungle-wierd, like maybe if the sex was not unpleasant that whole segment of the movie would have been pulled off.

Er, this is ILE, not ILM.

But when Morpheus totally fucks the shit out of the ghost guys, and out of nowhere, alone would have made Matrix 2 more intense and exciting for me then 99% of other moview: and as far as reducing it to action/philosophy in minutes, you still get more good action time here then any other American movie can get away with. So that is a stupid complaint.

All in all it was fucking great.

Lastly, you can't go tearing people's code apart when your fighting more than one, let alone more than 99. You're going to get your ass kicked while you sit there.

Yuen Woo-Ping, also responsible for fight choreography on Croughing Tiger Hidden Dragon, and the new Zu Warriors, which will never be shown over here because God hates me.

i hope they keep the plot just as incomprehensible

As well as Morpheus's speech (that Tracer mentions above), the rave sequence was totally rubb...unless...it is meant to represent a questionable 'alternative' lifestyle that is being manufactured for the few who 'live' in Zion (questionable is the key word here - this is why it is done so poorly). Continuing this line of thought, the sex scene was completely lame...unless...sexuality is being used as a passifier to placate the minds of the citizens of Zion and make them think that they are experiencing an authentic reality.

Trinity could also be a passifying program designed to keep Neo down - this would be a plot development for the next film. Alternatively, I could just be making excuses for the poor parts of Matrix Reloaded.