Rolling Cannabis Politics Thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hzmxt-_QoDU

this is the version, dude sounds so fuckin insane on it it makes me smile so hard all day in traffic

That youtube is missing the best part though, the weird little spoken "sunshine, sunshine, sunshine sunshine sunshine" at the beginning.

Apparently Shakespeare might've been a toker, giving hope to the parents of stoners everywhere:

http://motherjones.com/mixed-media/2011/06/william-shakespeare-marijuana

http://i51.tinypic.com/qs14z4.jpg

what kind?

blueberry kush

(actually a blueberry kush hybrid, but i can't remember the other strain)

welcome back, luriqua!

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/270520/right-marijuana-editors o_O

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/09/feds-rule-marijuana-has-no-accepted-medicinal-use_n_893894.html

not surprising. this is the takeaway tho:

The paper spoke to advocates who criticized the ruling but are pleased that the government has finally responded, which allows them to appeal to the federal courts.

We also have codeine--which is OTC in a number of countries--as a Schedule II drug, the same classification as fentanyl and morphine. *shakes head*

That National Review editorial linked by Mordy is mainly about honoring a legacy of Wm. Buckley, Jr. If Buckley had never come out in favor of legalization, you can damn well bet the current editors never would have arrived there on their own. Still, it is nice to see one of their editorial positions making a modicum of sense.

RIP

http://comicstheblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/pour-some-beer-out-for-homies.jpg

^ more like pot brownie http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif

meh, fuck illegal cheap labor Mexican plantations. legal California green is the future.

is it the present tho? seems like an operation this big'll be affecting prices hardcore in the non-medical states

quasi-legal CA growing is the present certainly

anecdotal information but my prices have been significantly lower over the last year and my connection said that's because it's all coming from CA. obv a supply deficit could affect prices everywhere but... ya know.

is it the present tho? seems like an operation this big'll be affecting prices hardcore in the non-medical states

not as much in the north I'd wager

If youre smoking dirt sure. What I get out here comes from cali and BC cuz nobody I know smokes stress

a much younger gbx in New England only saw Canadian/VT product.

and it was already pricey-ish

only suckers f/w mexican weed

man that just shows my age - back when, there were oaxacan buds that were quality. but then those were the ones that eventually got killed in the socal marketplace by the stuff coming down from carmel & humboldt

my dude sells in AZ and he says its almost like 2 separate marketplaces, ppl who get mexican shit and ppl who get cali/bc shit-- he doesn't even consider it competition

as mordy said, anecdotal but still...

im going to start growing methinks

rhododendrons i mean

too many shady rhododendron hortuculturalists up in this piece

mexico is def the source of what falls into the category of "popcorn mids" (well funded grows producing decent mids, not too compressed). bc (and norcal) is identified with triched out boutique weed and mexico is identified with dirt but both produce a lot of stuff in the middle. a lot of bc weed is just high yielding indoor stuff (the ghost of big bud) grown hot and fast-- you get people saying "i can always tell og kush (or other namebrand strain) grown by nammers" (ie the genetics are good but the product is too chemmy or too harsh or looks a little off).

god man weed nerds are something else

g--

"too chemmy" is a good descriptor of some i've gotten lately in WA. strong but...fake? fake smelling that's for sure.

chemmy = not flushed right, 2 many chems

wasn't hating, just always forget that ppl get as into it as wine

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-morgan/if-you-think-supporting-m_b_902208.html

"In so many ways, all it takes to move this issue forward is a willingness to ignore the people who don't know how to have a serious conversation about marijuana. They will tell you that it's not important, even though it obviously is. They will tell you that no one cares, even though almost everyone does. And they will tell you that you'll make thousands of enemies, when new allies and friends are waiting around every corner to pledge their support and stand alongside any political leader wise enough to know that the time for change is at hand."

The solid South is very still slow on this trend, I expect. I just can't see the idea of ending the prohibition playing well in Texas, Georgia or Florida, even if California is more than weary of bankrolling gangsters via marijuana profits.

In Texas & Georgia, really? I think those two will be where the movement catches hold in the south.

^ yes

and honestly I mean - Florida is a different country almost but there are a lot of people there whose symptoms could be alleviated by medical marijuana, and that's an avenue that's opening up

Hey, I'm all for opening up the question for a thorough public debate, but for 90% of voters the only way to initiate a debate is for some dramatic story to capture everyone's attention and focus it on the issue for a week or so. Whatever that dramatic story happens to be, it sets the framework for the discussion, and frankly, nothing about this dynamic is conducive to rational thinking, so we can only hope the irrational catalyst it provides for the debate will push people's emotions in favor of taking the rational side of the question.

It is a nice thought to "ignore the people who can't have a serious conversation about marijuana", because that kind of discussion favors ending the prohibition. Unfortunately, the general public has been fed so many slabs of television news about the horrors of drugs, and cop show plots fueled by evil druggies, and gossipy magazine articles and propaganda of every stripe in the popular media, that you can't just impose a whole new paradigm on them without resistance.

Even if our current set of politicians suddenly agreed that ending prohibition would be best, a new set of demagogues could easily supplant them, so long as the general public thinks prohibition is necessary to save them from druggies on crime sprees. This is precisely the sort of 'unserious', even ridiculous, idea that "people who can't have a serious conversation" still hold. But you can't wish those folks away. Changing enough of the public's mind means engaging with them over a long period.

Maybe the time really is right. I don't know. But I'm not averse to trying to launch as much sense into the nation as possible and then seeing how much it has the capacity to absorb.

there are a lot of people there whose symptoms could be alleviated by medical marijuana

hoo boy

I can't imagine how much weed you would have to smoke to cure the fact that you live in florida

^Post of the week!

<3

I actually kind of like Florida, but I couldn't just leave that dangling there.

last week's FRONTLINE had a 25 min segment on the current legal and political situation in california

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/the-pot-republic/

i enjoyed

^^that link streams the whole thing

At last, the field of genomics has something to offer Cheech and Chong. DNA sequencing hit a new high last night with the midnight release of the Cannabis sativa genome. The raw sequence was posted on Amazon’s EC2 public cloud computing service by a young company called Medicinal Genomics, which aims to explore the genomes of therapeutic plants.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=marijuana-plant-sequenced

High technology, etc.

Looking to make a fucking mint off of a more suitable synthetic that can be marketed to big pham for millions